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Our wideouts weren't the problem til Gordon came back, just saying.

Considering what we had to do at WR this year we didn't do too bad. What with JG's suspension and the injury's we had we put together a decent group. I just hope we don't have to do it again!

Unless Jameis Winston drops to #12 I don't think I'm all that interested in drafting a rookie quarterback this Spring. At this point I would rather trade a draft pick for a quarterback with some experience but also is still young enough to develop into a good starter, some names for example: Brock Osweiler (Denver), Kirk Cousins (Washington), Mike Glennon (Tampa Bay), or even Sam Bradford (St. Louis).

After winning 7-games this season, I'm ready to be competitive NOW and their really are not any cant miss prospects that we're going to be in position to draft.

If Connor Cook (Michigan State) declares for the draft (as he's a redshirt sophomore) I wouldn't mind selecting him at #19 or #44 (2nd-round) but other wise I'm just not interested.

I DO NOT want us to trade a bunch of picks to move up and get Winston or Mariotta. Ignoring our issues at RT, RG, DT/DE and WR would be a massive mistake, and will only lead to more struggles next year.

You only spend picks on a sure fire NFL ready day one starter. None of these are located in this draft.

Stay the course with Hoyer. Work at keeping this offense based on the running attack. We need a WR who plays team ball. More types like Hawkins and less like Gordon.

j/c



Connor Halliday - Washington State

Kevin Hogan - Stanford

Bo Wallace - Mississippi

Bo Wallace is the most inconsistent QB on the planet. I don't think he has any shot of making it in the NFL, bugs.

If Connor Cook comes out, I think he'll be the 3rd QB taken after Mariota & Winston. Mocks I've seen show him going in the 13-19 range of the first round. I'd like to see him sit behind Hoyer for a while. Maybe we could trade Manziel and something else for Kirk Cousins and have an All-Sparty QB room.

On Bo, it seemed Mississippi could never figure out what they wanted to do on offense. I thought that had lots to do with Bo's high and lows.

The guy who really intrigues me is Connor Halliday. He was tearing it up until he got hurt. I'm not sure of his intangibles.

Kevin Hogan is a bit unknown maybe this years Bortles.

If we could stop the run, then Hoyer whould have been on the field for 9+ wins this season - why can't he be the bridge?

Is this a list of QBs that we should absolutely not draft? If so I agree. Late round QBs that I like are Sean Mannion, Bryan Bennett, and Blake Sims. I don't see any of them being more than a backup.

I don't like any of the QBs in this draft, especially for what we would have to give up to get one of them.

I'd rather take Cutler off the Bears hands than draft any of these guys or trade picks to get any of these guys.

Sean Mannion from Oregon State could be a Mettenberg type. Smart, good arm, nice size.

Manion's play dropped off this year but not having Brandin Cooks to throw to didn't help. I watched some Beaver football over the last couple years. Manion has never looked like a world beater but I think with more talent around him he could develop into a viable starter. Will he ever be anything more than a mid level pro, I'm not sure.

Kevin Hogan is trash.

That is all.

Bleh. I want nothing to do with Cutler. He had far superior talent this year than what we can offer, and he wound up being benched.

Wouldnt mind the trade for Cousins. BTW what happened to Foles?

Cutler just isnt good in the WCO. He is a mid to deep 7 step drop thrower. He just isnt a good fit in their scheme up ther eand he isnt a good fit here. I am a huge fan of the kid but but its like Warner in New York, he just doesnt fit. I think we could see Cutler in St Louis.

I think our wideouts were really good early on because teams really didnt know what to expect from us and our run game scared the hell out of them. I dont know if they were all that good or just a product of the system but I am leaning towards system. Hawkins bottomed out, austin was sucking before he got hurt. I really think Gabriel was the only one that really showed me something and it was often because no one was within 20 yards of him.

I dont know what Gordon is. I dont know if he wants to be a Brown or even wants to be in the NFL. I dont think this is the best system for him. I am sure the Raiders are chomping at the bit to add him and i would probably let him go.

So what teams might want Gordon?

Coming to mind immediately:
Raiders
Jets
KC

Possibly interested:
Jags? Might have had too much from Blackmon to go that route.
Minnesota? Turner got great production from him here in Cleveland.
Rams - Fisher seems to think that he can reform players.
NE - they seem to like to take on talented players with behavioral issues.
Tenn - Only because I can't name a single receiver on their team.
Carolina - Pairing Gordon with Benjamin would make Cam smile

Deep deep sleepers:

SF
Arizona
Seattle

j/c

I'm starting to come around on drafting Hundley. His mechanics and footwork are a mess, but if he can be developed properly, he could be a hell of a QB. His arm is great, he has + mobility and I think he's incredibly smart. It may take a year or two, but he'd be a guy who I could see really turning out to be something.

I like Grayson from CSU. I have a soft spot for Carden from ECU too, although his deep ball is god awful.

Of course if I could somehow get Mariota, I'd do that in an instant. He may be the only guy who can start from day one and be very good. Winston has a lot of Manziel in him. Too much off the field stuff going on and I'm not sure how hard he will work.

Not a great year for the QB's in the draft.

cfrs, Connor Halliday has a pretty good arm. He was tied for 4th in the nation in passing yards with 3,873. He’s also seventh in touchdown passes with 32. On top of that he only has 11 interceptions while throwing the ball 526 times.

The other two, Kevin and Bo, have good physical/athletic attributes.

If drafting late, all three maybe a step up from Conner Shaw. All three are in the 6'3' to 6'4 height range.

Should have drafted garrapolo imo

Did you see his Brandon Weedenesque underhanded interception move in the bowl game today? I wouldn't take him in the draft, period.

Edited to add link to video

https://vine.co/v/OwVIiPhWKVJ

I saw it, and yes it was bad, but then again, he's not 29 years old. Did you see some of the throws he made?

Wow I just got a flashback from that 2013 season.

Man weeden was horrible. Plz do not draft whoever the hell that was.

JC,

I am watching the Rose Bowl and Mariota looks real quick and decisive. The only thing is that is seems to be a one read offense. Would he be worth selling the farm for to be The Guy?

He has the wisdom to NOT run unlike Johnny.
Nice touch on the ball, good runner when he must. Seems to be a leader.

Can he run a pro offense?...

12, 19 and a case of beer to Tampa for the pick...

I don't see much of a difference between Mariota and Manziel. I would argue Manziel looked slightly better in college. They both seem to have the same "style" that so many people seem to be against.

Manziel rushed 201 times and 144 times and threw 429/434.
Mariota rushed 106/96/117 and threw 336/386/372.

On a side note Winston is getting torched.

Mariota will win this game, the heisman, and possibly a national championship. But, the QB that translates better to the NFL is Winston.

He would be the QB that the Browns should trade up for.

What Johnny played against was frankly some of the best defenses the college game has seen. Mariotta not so much. I think Johnny is the superior passer. Florida st defense is nothing like what he will see against either bama or OSU. This next game is the most important game of his life in more ways than one.

That's a fair point about Cook's age, but still man - you have to have more smarts than to try that kind of garbage.

Yeah, and I've seen Brandon Weeden make some really nice throws too.

Right now, I'd take a shot at Cardale Jones. He can gun it and he's one big man. One really big man! Bring him in and sign Tim Tebow.

How about Manziel and a case of beer to Tampa for Glennon?

Well .... Jones is only a Sophomore ...... so I don't think that he can be drafted, can he?

I liked him too.... And Bridgwater.

-D'oh!

I usually never watch college football, as I just can't get into it. Now that I saw Winston played I'm mad I missed the game!

If we make that trade there won't be any beer left in the case.

When I saw that flip I immediately thought of Weeden, and said so to my son.

I do not get the age point though ... I think early 20s is plenty old enough to know that a no-look flip of the football is a horrible idea. The cut-off for that cannot be between normal college age and Weeden college age.

At any rate, that was a huge win by Sparty. Good for the Big Ten as a whole.

I just watched Mariota destroy Winston yesterday. Of course he took good
advantage of the multiple turnovers the Ducks defense gave him.

After watching them head to head I'll take Mariota.

I also liked Mariota's post game better than Winston's

Winston is a very poor loser.

Just don't trade away our picks, wait until round 3 maybe 4 and grab Bryce Petty