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Kinda like a Pace thread... Thanks toad... <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> [color:"white"]except we allready have him on the team <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> [/color]
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Our stellar OL play today was the reason we won. They allowed Frye, Anderson, Rube, Wright, Cribbs all make plays. I agree. The thing you gotta remember too is that Derek Anderson made some really bad plays as well. I remember that one pass to the side that Ty Law would have run back for a touchdown if the ball was low enough. I think he knocked a support beam out with that ball.
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I felt Frye was playing well before the injury, even after he came up slow on that hit, and still led us to another score before halftime.
What I did notice is that Andersen seemed to make quicker decisions, but I also noticed that we always had Droughns or Wright as a dump off on the other side of the LoS with Andersen in there. Something that other teams always do, and has killed us many a game.
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I just heard Frye say that DA is a legitimate backup QB...lol <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> I was thinking that about Frye <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />
Frye sounded doubtful he would play this week.
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[color:"white"]Shaffer got killed on the play that hurt Frye's leg. After the 1st quarter, our line played better against an always sad Chiefs defense.
I also noticed that on the sack of Anderson at the end of the game, either Butler or Coleman blew their assignment. In year's past, the typical scheme was for the tackle to block down and the guard to kick out the outsider rusher, so without looking at the replay, the fubar was on Coleman.
And yeah, that pass that Anderson didn't have picked off was a big one. Truthfully, he should have thrown 2 INT's today, and 2 INT's in a half of football with good blocking is unacceptable. That's been his problem dating back to college. He isn't the longterm answer.[/color]
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Hey Toad...Where's your "No Homers" sign... Anderson is a second year player with limited action. He needs more time and experience before anyone can say if he's the one or not.... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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j/k One thing no one has bothered to mention is that Anderson has not been "sacked" 70+ times and knocked down another 70+ times by 280lb line backers for the last 11 weeks either. <img src="/images/graemlins/saywhat.gif" alt="" />
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As soon as that pre-snap hitch gets fixed (or maybe before then), we start Anderson. Which will be Thursday. Of course my Start Derek Anderson thread was in-appropriately named last week, which I pointed out twice, hopefully someone saw it. <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> If Charlie's good to go next game, you got to start him. DA rallied us from 14 down today, keep in mind.
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[color:"white"]Noted, that's why I put the " *L* " next to it <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Halfback......they mugged me in a dark alley and took it along with my lunch money <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> [/color]
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You do realize starting this thread makes you like a hooker spreading VD all thru the community <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Frye today
131.4 QB Rating
11 of 13 - 84.6%
122 Yards
1 TD
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Anderson today
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12 of 21 - 57.4%
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Frye today
3 series
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Anderson today
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2 TDs
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Frye today
131.4 QB Rating
11 of 13 - 84.6%
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Anderson today
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12 of 21 - 57.4%
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Frye today
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Anderson today
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Dont think he should be the starter.. but he did show some good things..
compared to Frye.. he seemed more comfortable making plays in the pocket.. seemed to be more relaxed and focused ON EVERY RECIEVER!!! not just ONE!!
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I don't see any controversy here. Our QB's had a good day b/c the OL had a good day. Our RB's had a good day because, our OL had a good day.
I liked the way Anderson played, reminded me a lot of Tony Romo. I liked the way Frye played, reminded me of Chuck Frye.
Right now, I think we have our QB's that we need, we've got Charlie and a reliable back-up, period. Given decent protection both can excel--as was evident today.
I'm sure Grossi will write some stupid article trying to promote this as a controversy--b/c he's an idiot, but as of right now, it is what it is--two good QB's behind an inconsistent OL.
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This thread is so damn sickening it's pathetic... Get a grip people, DA has no real game footage on him and now he's the man? Do you people think that if KC had a DA game plan the outcome would be the same? You guys are so damn clueless, and your will to debate overtakes your brains... Not only is it sad for this thread to even be here, it's sadder that you maroons want to debate it... Sucks when our boys win and then some fans as the one's on this thread ruin it with nonsense, thanks guys, this thread will remind me that we have some of the dumbest fans who watch the games...
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This thread is so damn sickening it's pathetic... Get a grip people, DA has no real game footage on him and now he's the man? Do you people think that if KC had a DA game plan the outcome would be the same? You guys are so damn clueless, and your will to debate overtakes your brains... Not only is it sad for this thread to even be here, it's sadder that you maroons want to debate it... Sucks when our boys win and then some fans as the one's on this thread ruin it with nonsense, thanks guys, this thread will remind me that we have some of the dumbest fans who watch the games... Agree 100%. Anderson is a reliable Back-up, he showed that today. If he really deserved the starting job, don't you think the coaches would have seen that in practice? I mean, these people around here act as if the coaching staff is entirely clueless--yet, the coaches know the team best. Each players strengths and weaknesses. IMO We've got Frye as our starter and DA as back-up. Anything else is pure speculation by people so ridiculously stuck on themselves that they think they have a better idea of how the team should run than the coaching staff and front office. JMHO. <img src="/images/graemlins/azzangel.gif" alt="" />
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LOL....
For years people make excuses when their guy does poorly and now make excuses when someone does well.
I am not saying he should be the starter or anything.....he should get some time because he has a great arm, showed poise, ran well, and had good pocket awarness.
Maybe he ends up falling apart....who knows....all I am saying is I want to know that for sure before we just assume Chuck is the guy and Anderson get s buried for another 11 weeks.
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*IF* Winslow's slip during his post-game interview is the truth and not just a slip or lockerroom rumor, Charlie has a broken wrist, so it's not likely he'll be playing.
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Well now we get to see what Anderson is really made of.
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If he really deserved the starting job, don't you think the coaches would have seen that in practice? I don't know if Anderson will pan out or not.....just as I don't with Chuck. I say hedge the bet and look at both of them. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that over the rest of this lost season. It's not like Chuck has shown he is any better than a back-up at this point.
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*IF* Winslow's slip during his post-game interview is the truth and not just a slip or lockerroom rumor, Charlie has a broken wrist, so it's not likely he'll be playing. Didn't hear.....I don't like to hear that.
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I wasn't trying to be funny Peen... When DA went 2-2 I knew this crap would happen...
I never annointed CF anything but potential, but neither QB is the answer... We are still rebuilding and there is truly no need for this crap...
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I know you weren't...and i wasn't trying to me smart with you....my only point is sometimes you just have to go with what you see...and for his 1st NFL action...it wasn't bad.
Worth more than some mop-up duty.
I think we owe it to ourself and Anderson to at least explore the possibilities.
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You guys are so damn clueless, and your will to debate overtakes your brains... Not only is it sad for this thread to even be here, it's sadder that you maroons want to debate it... toad started it. <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Beyond that... what is it you think shouldn't be debated? That 14 point 4th quarter comeback?
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heh, sorry about the cursing...
If Anderson gets hurt we are in deep trouble... who is a free agent right now?
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QBs sometimes play good coming off the bench (looks at Maddax and Nocolmb) but Anderson performed better then I thought he would. I thought for sure the game was a lose when he came in the 2nd half but he got it done but he got lucky. His first TD could of been intercepted if Heiden did not catch the ball then we have the int after recovering the KC fumble less then minute left. Also helped that the line was blocking and runing game going on. Look for Frye to start when hes healthy (which could be couple of weeks).
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His first TD could of been intercepted if Heiden did not catch the ball His only INT could have been a completion if it went through the defenders hands and we caught it.... <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif" alt="" />
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heh, sorry about the cursing...
If Anderson gets hurt we are in deep trouble... who is a free agent right now? I don't think it matters really.... if you're efver down to relying on your 3rd string QB, you're pretty much toast anyway. As for the Frye/Anderson stuff..... folks need to realize that they both did quite well today, but this was one of the rare times this season that a team was not constantly in the face of our QB. Pressure was pretty weak all day for both QB's. Also, this is the same Chiefs team that Pittsburgh smacked around to the tune of 45-7.... putting up 31 of that in the first half of that game. Stats be damned...I'm convinced that this is not a very good defense that we played today.
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Say what you will about Anderson, when the starter went down, he stepped in and did not lose the game. In fact, showed some creativity, hustle and toughness when he needed to. His size is a definite advantage. Not saying Charlie's not the guy, (not yet,) but Anderson's timing, arm strength, accuracy and scrambling ability, (recognizing when to take off, when to bail out and when to fight for yards) looked pretty good. Today anyway. Fun thread. Let the great QB debate begin. Can't wait to hear the media spin it.
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*IF* Winslow's slip during his post-game interview is the truth and not just a slip or lockerroom rumor, Charlie has a broken wrist, so it's not likely he'll be playing. Wow, it may be moot, for a while at least.
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Well, it may not even be a debate. Cleveland radio is reporting a broken wrist for Frye.
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Well, it may not even be a debate. Cleveland radio is reporting a broken wrist for Frye. I guess that means we'll have Anderson starting and Dorsey/Cribbs for backup... No controversy.... <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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LET IT BEGIN!!! i really really like this kid. [color:"orange"] he too did stare down recievers, but he makes the plays [/color] .. i wanna see what he can do against the likes of pitt/NE/chi ect defense's Frye and Anderson both stare down receivers, Hummm...You think our Qb coach is teaching that to them?
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Hey, ref--you got a link for that--read the rules of the pound. <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> Nice one Tyler. Thanks for adding the link ref.
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I personally think Anderson deserves a look
me and my buddy(we been Browns fans for 27 years) have been pulling for this kid since he came on the team
he a "Proto-typical NFL QB" he has the height (He is 6'5) he is a big kid(230 or more i do belive) the kid "can run when he has to" BUT he doens't run often.,...the kid is more of a "Pocket-Passer" Anderson has a rifle of an arm(Somehting Frye does not have, Anderson has a much better arm, and he has that zip and velocity on his passes Frye don't have. (Anderson did not throw a single duck today, all nice tight spirals)
Look folks, we may have ourselves a servicable QB here, im not syaing this kid is Tom Brady or anything like that yet, but i do belive Anderson is a better fit for this team, Davidson's Offense/Charlie Weises Offense is tailored for more of a Pocket Passer, anderson is more of a pocket-passer.
another thing about this kid was his decision making...the kid doesn't hold the ball too long, he did maybe 3 plays out of the whole game, the kid took his 3 steps and fired the ball, he got rid of the ball quickly, he had 1 pick, but he threw 2 TD's, and he also drove us down the field late in the 4th quarter for the game tieing TD....something Frye has not done yet.....Anderson had a great 4th quarter...it's a good start
im just saying Anderson deserves atleast a look see
he has done alot of things right in this game....he showed me more in one game than Frye has shown me in 15....look he threw a pick...he came back in and ran for 43 yards and ran people over...that right there is just heart...period...we have yet to see Frye come back and bounce back like that...Anderson has alot of heart....
Anderson has shown me alot, im not saying make the kid the starter "yet"...but he could one day develop into one Lol, I didn't bother to read after your first sentence - Frye was 11-13 with 1 TD and 0 ints. I'd say Frye certainly looked great against KC. If our OL played like this every week we'd have a winning record EASY. Our RBs had 26 carries for 106 yds. Just like Oakland and NYJ games, our line plays well - we run well, we give a QB time and we win the game. It's not a difficult concept.
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I wasn't trying to be funny Peen... When DA went 2-2 I knew this crap would happen...
I never annointed CF anything but potential, but neither QB is the answer... We are still rebuilding and there is truly no need for this crap... <img src="/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" /> I had people in the bar saying Anderson looked better than Frye - t's amazing how people missed the fact Frye was 11-13 with a TD and 0 ints. I wish we had intelligent fans, they'd have seen the following equation - OL blocks, RBs run well - QB gets time and passes get completed.
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