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I haven't read the article, but I heard the quote.

It was more like we don't know if we have a quarterback, and we will continue to try and figure it out.

mac's interpretation: Haslam has proposed to Manziel and they will be vacationing in the Bahamas next week.

He can always ask the homeless man in such hard times

In other words: Johnny B. Good.

In other words: Hey, John Manziel, you've got some work to do, and it will show if you're doing it.

In other words: John, I don't want to see your mug in party shots. Only place I want to see your face is studying the game you get payed to play.

And, in the final words: John, I put my ass on the line drafting you and mandating you play. I have enough on my table......you'd better be good.

Looks like Hoyer may be the only QB from this year after pre season?

TRADE? Nick Foles

TRADE UP? Marcus Mariota

Draft? Bryce Petty

Sign? Mark Sanchez?

All four of those options are horrible.

Big words from a rich man. He needs to put his money where his mouth is. Monitor little johnny closely, see that he is putting time in during the off season, ensure he shows up at otas and works his butt off.

I see a trade of epic proportion occuring soon. Hope we are all shocked!

It sounds like Haslam (and Farmer who has said the same stuff) feel like we don't have our starter on the roster.

Now, whether they're trying to light a fire under Johnny or they view him as a sunk cost and are going to replace him with a FA or a rookie like Mariota, I have no idea... but it's great to see that these guys won't put up with crap at the QB position.

Whatever conclusion they come to at the end of their prep process, they need to follow it with 100% conviction. It doesn't matter who is on the roster now or what we paid to bring him in, if he's not the solution, move on without hesitation.

If it is true that we are done with Manziel after only one season (I am not sure we are), we literally wasted a first round pick in the deepest draft ever. Fun stuff. Maybe next time a hyped prospect comes around Haslam will trust the people who have some clue (allegedly) do their jobs.

Those big and shiny new toys can be enticing to those who can afford them. Hope you're right about trusting those you hire to do a job!

Terrible headline that does not mesh with Haslam's quoted statements in the article:

New offensive coordinator John DeFilippo expressed skepticism Thursday that Johnny Manziel is the answer to the Cleveland Browns' decades-long quarterback problem.

The questions about Manziel's future go much higher than the coaching staff.

Owner Jimmy Haslam, who was reported to have the gridiron-version of a "love affair" with Manziel last May, no longer carries a torch for his 2014 first-round draft pick.

"We've got to get a quarterback and got to get it fixed," Haslam said Thursday night, via the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram. "What I would say to our fans is, we're going to continue to work really hard to find that quarterback who can make us a championship team."

Haslam isn't ruling out Manziel as the 2015 starter, but emphasized that "every option is on the table" including undrafted Week 17 starter Connor Shaw and impending free agent Brian Hoyer.

The Browns owe it to themselves to leave no stone unturned after Manziel's rocky rookie season -- on and off the field.

"Johnny has to show on and off the field he can be a professional," Haslam continued. "He knows that. Everybody in the organization has told him that. It'll be up to Flip and (coach Mike Pettine) to decide whether he can be the kind of quarterback we need him to be. He knows what we expect of him on and off the field, and it's up to him to prove he can do that."

The Browns' brass might be willing to overlook Manziel's extracurricular activities had his limited game film provided any indication that he could emerge as the face of the franchise.

Instead, he fell on his face in four preseason games and two regular-season starts, leaving more doubts than any of the first-year quarterbacks.

It doesn't look like that at all. Why would it look like Hoyer, an impending free agent, would be the only QB from this year after pre-season instead of their young QB who they have locked up for a few years? Saying they need to get a QB doesn't mean Hoyer is safe seeing how he is a QB and they need to get one. It seems that you've twisted the words into what you hope for rather than reality.

I agree Lemmy. Saying you need one means you don't have one. If they thought Hoyer was the answer, they wouldn't be saying we need one.

My opinion...

FA Options are slim...maybe one of these guys, but only at friendly prices (maybe incentive laden).
Ryan Mallett
Brian Hoyer
Jake Locker
Sam Bradford (if he ends up as a cap casualty)

Trade options...this isn't realistic, but it'd be one of the very few guys I'd consider trading for.
Jimmy Garoppolo

Trade Up:
No thanks, unless Mariota drops beyond number 7 or 8. I'd rather have our 2nd first rounder and our 2nd rounder.

Draft:
Mariota if available at 12 or 19
Grayson 3rd or later
Carden 4th or later
Mannion 6th or later
Bridge 7th or FA

I don't think that acquiring Nick Foles (or Mike Glennon) via trade is a horrible option. It would all depend on the amount paid.

Glennon is not good and has no upside. We might as well stay with Hoyer rather than go to Glennon. Foles is better than Hoyer and Manziel, but he was in Kelly's system so we don't really how good he is. And he would probably cost a decent amount.

You mean, like Banner getting rid of Trent Richardson to the Colts? Maybe Farmer could move that even further by trading away Johnny for something?

Except Banner wasn't the one who drafted Richardson.

What? Glennon has no upside?

There's a problem with 'staying with Hoyer' and that is that Hoyer might not want to 'stay with the Browns'.

I don't know how much Foles would cost and if the price asked for is higher than the Browns want to pay, then just say 'Nope and hang up the phone.'

I didn't say that Banner was the one that drafted Richardson.

I would say that reading it seems to indicate that they aren't intending to bring back Hoyer unless it is on their own terms.

I wasn't saying you did. At least Banner was cleaning up someone elses mess. These guys just drafted Manziel last year.

I don't think Glennon is good and I don't see much room for improvement.

Fair enough, Farmer says that he drafted Manziel.

I fully expect that Manziel will see competition for the job if he's actually still on the team. I don't know what the Browns can expect to get in return for him, but I don't think it'll be very much. Because of that, I think he's on the roster next season. It remains to be seen if he's even got a chance at being the starter.

I think that Connor Shaw has a better chance of starting for the Browns than Manziel does for no other reason than he puts in the effort.

We are so screwed.

Then we will have to simply agree to disagree.

My take is that any QB that can have twice as many TDs as INTs in his first two seasons and has over an 83 QB rating (conventional formula) on such a BAD team has some skills.

A QB rating of 83 would have been the 26th ranked QB this season (among players who qualified). 33 players qualified. 83 is no longer a good QB rating.

Why? There are some very good ways to fix what ails the Browns. It'll be interesting to see if they do it correctly.

Dallas suffered with some horrible play on the OL but then selected LT Tyron Smith in 2011, C Travis Frederick in 2013 and then Zack Martin last year. All three made the Pro Bowl this year and the Cowboys were 12-4 during the regular season.

No room for improvement based on a total of 19 starts?

364 of 619 for 58.8%

29 touchdowns and 15 int's. 83.7 qbr.

Now those certainly aren't pro bowl numbers. But the kid is 6'6", 225lbs. and is 25 years old with only 19 starts under his belt.

At his size and age when combining those numbers, there's certainly room for growth. I'm not advocating he is the answer, but it amazes me how many people seem to think that Hoyer played all that well and that he is the only possibility to be our starting QB next year.

I KNOW Foles is better than anything WE can draft for the next two seasons so I would be more than happy to give up a first for him IF(big IF) we can't trade up for Mariota.

Glennon I have not really watched but by his stats I'd say he is worth a 2nd? I honestly don't know enough about him.

Manziel and Gordon are both acceptable trade bait to make that happen IMHO. For instance to draft Mariota I'd be willing to trade both our firsts this year, our first next year AND manziel and gordon to make it happen. Getting a REAL franchise QB is worth it.

It isn't a bad QB rating.

I would prefer that the franchise owner would refrain from making player personnel comments to the media.

IF TB drafts Winston or Mariota then we want Glennon I am sure that we can get him for less than a 2nd.

26th out of 33 isn't bad?

If we give up a 2nd for Glennon then everyone needs to be fired. Josh Freaking McCown started over him. Josh Freaking McCown.

I certainly do not want to bring back Hoyer as our starter. But if the options are trading assets for a guy who I don't think is all that good and starting Hoyer, then I choose Hoyer.