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Michael Oher was released yesterday. Anyone interested?

As depth or a starter?

If I'm making a movie maybe.

How is his named pronounced?

Do we get Sandra Bullock with him?

MY-kull

"or"

Michael Oher waived/injured by Tennessee Titans

The Oher signing was a head-scratcher from the start. He had been a primary culprit in the Baltimore Ravens' historically inept 2013 rushing attack and was no better in 11 games with the Titans.

Oher, 28, is recovering from surgery after toe arthritis cut his season short in December. Even with a first-round pedigree and a household name, he's going to face a cold market for his services.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ennessee-titans

I would definitely be interested in Oher as a person to compete with Schwartz and as a back for both tackle positions.

I thought Ozzie never missed on draft picks? To read this board, he is infallible. All draft picks are gambles.

Who has said that? Seriously.

It's about the body of work. Are you really going to sit here and compare his drafts w/the Browns? Seriously?

and not even that.

they got a SB ring, while we can't even sniff the playoffs.

he must be doing something right.

Bal, Pitt, and NE haven't drafted that well for a while..

They all have QBs.. so they can get away with it..

Where did I compare him with the Browns? Nobody needs to say those exact words, as long as you and I have been reading these boards, if you don't get that people see him as never making a mistake, I don't know what to tell you.

But nowhere did I ever try to compare him to the Browns. It was all about his perception to most of the posters on this board.

If he is healed up and comes at the right price he could help our depth at LT and RT

Postingthis here because predator was asking about cap situations.

I looked at who I thought could get cut for cap reasons

Arizona
The Cardinals are almost ten million dollars over the cap with not enough fat to cut off.  They will likely lose a major piece of their team this year, whether it be Larry Fitzgerals, Darnell Dockett, or Carson Palmer.
Larry Fitzgerald WR $9.2MM
Darnell Dockett DE $6.8MM
Jerraud Powers CB $4.25MM
Ted Ginn WR $2.5MM
Drew Stanton QB $3MM
John Carlson TE $1.6MM
Atlanta
Atlanta has 7 significant defensive players hitting free agency, so while their $23MM in cap space looks comfortable, it has to stretch a long way.  Also, they are likely to try to work out a long term deal with Julio Jones, who is in the last year of his deal and already accounting for a $10.1MM cap hit.
Steven Jackson RB $3.75MM
Baltimore
The Ravens are in a tough position with needing to clear cap space but not many places where they can regain cap dollars for the year.
Sam Koch P $2.5MM
Jimmy Smith CB $6.9MM Ravens would hate to do this, and maybe they can extend him in such a way to keep him on the roster, but they don't have a lot of flexibility.
Buffalo
Buffalo would like to retain free agent Jerry Hughes, but Hughes has made it clear he will go to the highest bidder, which is unlikely to be Buffalo.
None for cap reasons.  
Carolina
Cam Newton should get an extension, which will have a significant impact on Carolina's cap situation (currently $11MM under the cap).  Newton's current cap hit for 2015 is $14.7MM.
Mike Tolbert FB $2.4MM
Chicago
The Bears have plenty of space to resign Stephen Paea and pick up a free agent or two.  Charles Tillman and Lance Briggs are both 34 and free agents, so we will see if John Fox has the vets in the Bears' plans moving forward.
None for cap reasons.  
Cincinnati
With almost $35MM in projected cap space, the Bengals can easily resign Gresham, Maualuga, and Newman.  Everyone else is expendable.
None for cap reasons.  
Cleveland
None for cap reasons.
Dallas Cowboys
The Cowboys have a number of important free agents to re-sign, including Dez Bryant, Demarco Murray, and Rolando McClain.  Bryant's 2015 cap hit on its own will likely surpass the Cowboys' available $7MM+ in cap room.  The Cowboys have had a lot of success in the past pushing dollars around to stay under the cap through restructures, but at some point the bubble will burst.  They have really only one juicy contact they can part with, though it won't be easy on their defense.
Henry Melton DT $8.5MM
Dekoda Watson OLB $1.25MM
Denver Broncos
The Broncos' cap situation is as interesting as they come.  With Demaryius Thomas, Julius Thomas, Terrance Knighton, and Orlando Franklin all free agents, their $27MM in cap space can be stretched thin quickly just to retain their own players.  Additionally, Von Miller is in the last year of his deal and will be looking for a big extension.  It's unknown if Peyton Manning will return, which repesents an additional $19MM in potential additional cap space should he decide to hang it up.  Manning leaving, however, would make re-signing these free agents more difficult.
None
Detroit Lions
With Ndamukong Suh opting out of his contract, the Lions' have closer to $31MM in cap space this upcoming offseason.  With Mosley, Fairley, Suh, and Fluellen all free agents, they need to completely re-sign or rebuild their defensive interior.
None for cap reasons.
Green Bay Packers
The Packers have $23MM in cap space to try to retain Randall Cobb, Bryan Bulaga, BJ Raji, and Tramon Williams.  It is generally expected that Randall Cobb will be moving on, as the Packers would likely have to significantly gut their defense in order to retain Cobb.
AJ Hawk ILB $3.5MM
Brad Jones ILB $3.75MM
These two players are only potential cap cuts if the Packers try to retain Cobb.
Houston Texans
The Texans are in a tough spot, with only $10.5MM in projected cap room and a number of key players hitting free agency (CB Kareem Jackson, RT Derek Newton, S Danieal Manning, OLB Brooks Reed, S Kendrick Lewis, QB Ryan Mallett.)  Though it seem like heresy to consider parting ways with the still-productive Andre Johnson, moving the 33-year-old's contract could create an additional $8.8MM in cap space.  He is unlikely to be cut, but if they can acquire some asset for him, he could be an appealing piece to a contender at a palatable $10-$11MM cap hit for the next two years.
Andre Johnson WR $8.8MM
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB $3.25MM
Garrett Graham TE $2.5MM
Indianapolis Colts
The Colts have over $30MM in projected cap space with Mike Adams, A.Q. Shipley, and Cory Redding as the only significant free agents needed to be re-signed.  None of them should break the bank.
None for cap reasons.
Jacksonville Jaguars
The Jags have the most cap space in the NFL.
None for cap reasons.
Kansas City Chiefs
The Chiefs are projected to by about $2.3MM over the cap with Eric Berry on the non-football injury list due to his lymphoma.  They have nine players who played significant snaps in 2014 hitting free agency, including Justin Houston and Rodney Hudson who will command big money in free agency.  The Chiefs face some tough decisions this offseason.
Tamba Hali OLB $9MM
Mike DeVito DE $4MM
Chase Daniel QB $3.8MM With Aaron Murray likely to be healed from his ACL, Daniel's contract may be too big to hold on to for a cap-strapped team.
Donnie Avery WR $3.5MM
Anthony Fasano TE $2MM
AJ Jenkins WR $1.3MM
Miami Dolphins
The Dolphins are already almost $2MM over the cap and unlikely to be able to retain any of their significant free agents.  They are sure to explore several options to try to tighten up their payroll such as restructuring Cameron Wake and extending Maurkice Pouncey, but they still have to tighten their belt.
Mike Wallace WR $5.5MM
Dannell Ellerbe LB $5.5MM Ellerbe has been a huge disappointment for Miami.
Brian Hartline WR $3.1MM The Dolphins will likely only keep on of Wallace or Hartline.
Brandon Fields P $3.1MM
Earl Mitchell DT $3MM
Shelley Smith OG $2.75MM
Minnesota Vikings
The Vikings' cap situation depends heavily on whether or not Adrian Peterson is reinstated for 2015.  If he is not, their available cap space balloons to almost $30MM.  Peterson is likely to be reinstated, though.  The Vikings have no significant free agents to re-sign.
Matt Cassel QB $4.75MM
New England Patriots
The Pats are already up against the cap, with less than $1MM in space available and have only three sginificant places they can trim salary.  They have some tough decisions to make at corner.
Darrelle Revis CB $20MM
Vince Wilfork DT $7.5MM
Brandon Browner CB $5MM
New Orleans Saints
It's hard to understand how the Saints got themselves into this much of a mess.  At more than $23 million dollars over the cap, the Saints are likely to have to part ways with Jimmy Graham just one season after giving him a large extension.  As a result, they will have ended up paying him $13MM for a single season.  To avoid completely gutting the team, it appears the Saints will have to get a large restructuring gift from Drew Brees.  Heck, maybe they should trade him, tank the season, and start over.
Marques Colston WR $4.3MM ($7MM if post-June 1st designated)
Jahri Evans OG $6MM
Ben Grubbs OG $3.3MM
Jimmy Graham TE $2MM ($4.5MM if post-June1st designated)
Curtis Lofton ILB $4MM
Brodrick Bunkley NT $3MM
David Hawthorne OLB $3MM
Rafael Bush S $2MM
Pierre Thomas RB $1.7MM
New York Giants
While the Giants have almost $16MM in cap space, they have a ton of significant players hitting free agency, most-notably Jason Pierre Paul and starting safeties Antrel Rolle and Stevie Brown.
Prince Amukamara CB $6.9MM
Mathias Kiwanuka DE/LB $4.8MM
Jon Beason LB $3.5MM
New York Jets
While the Jets may cut Percy Harvin and/or Chris Johnson, it won't be due to cap contraints, as the Jets already have upwards of $50MM in cap room.
None for cap reasons.
Oakland Raiders
One has to think Matt Schaub and MJD are on their way out of Oakland, but it won't be for cap reasons.  The Raiders have north of $50MM in spending available already.
None for cap reasons.
Philadelphia Eagles
Most think Jeremy Maclin will end up walking from the Eagles, who are currently positioned $19MM below the cap.  The Eagles are likely to want to re-sign FA safety Nate Allen and OLB Brandon Graham.
Trent Cole OLB $8.4MM Depending on which direction they want to go at OLB (Graham or Cole), the Eagles may decide that an $11.6MM cap hit is too much for the 32-year-old Cole, whose production has fallen off in recent seasons.
Brenk Celek TE $4.8MM It seems likely the Eagles will part ways with either Celek or Casey, given their high cap numbers and Ertz taking over as the team's top TE.
James Casey TE $4MM
Pittsburgh Steelers
The Steelers are already $1.5 MM over the cap for the upcoming season.  They will likely need some significant restructuring of their current contracts (Troy P, Ben Roethlisberger), as they don't have a lot of wiggle room with cuts.
Troy Polamalu S $3.75MM ($6MM if post-June 1st designated)  It's hard to picture the Steelers cutting Troy Polamalu, but he is not the same player he once was.  With Lebeau out in Pitt, they may just go ahead and turn the page one one of the iconic Steelers of the past decade.
Mike Mitchell S $4MM
Heath Miller TE $2.3MM ($4.6MM if post-June 1st designated)
Lance Moore WR $1.5MM
San Diego Charges
The Chargers have over $25MM in cap room this offseason, but have several starters on the offensive line and in the defensive backfield hitting free agency, or in the case of Jeromy Clary, retiring.  The Chargers may ask QB Philip Rivers to restructure.
Jarret Johnson OLB $5MM
San Francisco 49ers
The 49ers have serious cap issues as they are losing some key players to free agency this offseason in Mike Iupati and Michael Crabtree but are still over the cap.
Patrick Willis ILB $7.5MM With Chris Borland showing up big in a couple games, the 49ers may look at Willis' juicy contract as a place they can cut to help get back under the league's spending threshold.
Stevie Johnson WR $6MM Johnson was mostly unproductive for the 49ers, and represents a large salary opportunity.
Seattle Seahawks
The Seahawks have a few significant players hitting free agency, most-notably CB Byron Maxwell, but likely nobody the Seahawks see as irreplaceable.  With $25MM in cap space, Seattle has room to extend Russell Wilson without dismantling their team.  Marshawn Lynch has been rumored to be on the way out, but that would have more to do with personality conflicts than cap contraints.
None for cap reasons.
St. Louis Rams
The Rams are more than half a million dollars over the cap and have some moves to make.  Probably the least-kept NFL roster secret is that Sam Bradford will not stay with the Rams at his current cap number.  He will be cut, traded, or restructured.
Sam Bradford QB $13MM
Roger Saffold OL $4.25MM
Kendall Langford DT $6MM
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tampa has almost $26MM in available cap space and no critical free agents to re-sign.  If there are cuts, it will be due to performance vs. salary (Logan Mankins) and not cap space.
None for cap reasons.
Tennessee Titans
With over $40MM in available cap space, the Titans can't afford to cut any talent to free up more space under the limit.
None for cap reasons.
Washington Redskins
Washington has $13MM of cap room and lots of players to replace this offseason.  The Redskins will not be parting ways with Trent Williams or Ryan Kerrigan, so they have limited options to clear room.
Pierre Garcon WR $5.3MM

Spotrac put out an enourmous, elaborate, excellent list of potential cap casualties.

It doesn't copy and past well, so click the link.

^ Yeah but they listed Gordon as someone who would cost the Browns money in 2015-- which is false. Not sure if that is the only error.

If the Browns cut him, then his signing bonus and any guarantees left would accelerate against the cap this year. (and maybe next, depending on when they made a move to get rid of him)

They also have three guys listed as likely "cap casualties" for the Titans, who have over $40 million in cap room. If they get cut, it's because the coach doesn't want them.

To be fair, that happens all the time. They already cut Oher.

Nothing is owed to Gordon under any circumstance. He's suspended (without pay) and the Browns don't have to pay him a single penny and none of his contract applies to the cap.

They might owe him future guaranteed money if he makes it back to the NFL. They also have his signing bonus hitting the cap as well, though I believe that they might only have one year left to allocate. I am not sure if the original portion due against last year's cap hit or not.

This coming year, though, he won't count at all.

While he is banned nothing from his contract counts towards anything. It's like he doesn't exist because his contract is frozen. When and IF he makes it back it will just resume from the spot he was suspended including all cap hits and bonuses. That's the point the Browns have to make a decision.

True enough, but I think the Browns could even try to recoup part of the signing bonus already paid to him, which would free up even that much more cap space.

They could definitely do that, and I expect them to do so if they cut him at some point.

Rumors are that the 49ers might cut Phil Dawson:

Why? He's done a good job for them.

Tony Grossi ‏@TonyGrossi 36m36 minutes ago
Forget about #Rams QB Sam Bradford being an option for the #Browns. http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/...96a956ba6c.html …

Fisher, Cignetti support Bradford

One of the most noteworthy things to come out of Friday’s introductory press conference for new offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti was how strongly both Cignetti and coach Jeff Fisher came out in support of quarterback Sam Bradford.
Based on what was said Friday, there appears to be little doubt that Bradford will be with the team next season — and be the starter.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/...96a956ba6c.html

Paying kickers top dollar is not a great investment.

Until you need one.

I thought Dawson signed for like $2mill a year , which is fair price for a Kicker.

If we had phil dawson last year we would have had a 10 win season. I'd be more than happy to make him the highest paid kicker to finish his career here.

Dallas declines option on former Pro Bowl DT, Henry Melton.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/14/cowboys-decline-option-on-henry-melton/

When you have other players that need to be paid, paying a kicker $2 million is dumb.

49ers salary cap 2015, cut candidates: Phil Dawson

The Numbers

Dawson has a $4.134 million salary cap number, with a $3.134 million base salary, with $500,000 of that being guaranteed on April 1.

If the 49ers release Dawson before June 1, they would save $3.134 million, with a $1 million dead money hit in 2015. If they chose to wait to designate Dawson a June 1 cut, they would still save $3.134 million, but if they waited to cut him until June 1, they would only save $2.634 million, with a $1.5 million dead money hit in 2015.

You may be asking why there are two different dead money hits for a June 1 cut. This is due to them actually waiting until June 1 to release Dawson, because by then his April 1 $500,000 guarantee would have kicked in. If the 49ers release him prior to April, but designate him a June 1 cut, they would save the entire $3.134 million, due to the base salary guarantee not kicking in.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/2/13/80...ualty-candidate

No kicker in the league is worth $4 million.

We gotta get this guy!