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Every move we have made to this point is to help Johnny.

Just take the emotion out of it and you will arrive at the same conclusion as I. Honor Spock today. Think logically.

2013 McCown with a solid supporting cast looked pretty good..

2014 McCown with Tampa Bay did not..

Look folks. It has been widely reported we have reached out to camp Hoyer and nothing has come of that. It's easy to assume they wanted more in terms of money and years then we were willing to pay.

McCowan has worked with our new OC in Oakland. He must know his system. That bodes well for both him and Johnny because if you think the team is giving up on a first round QB draft choice after 1 season you are kidding yourself. I don't know if that has ever happened.

McCown is what? Maybe 35-36 years old. He was real happy to get a 3 year deal. Hoyer was probably wanting 5 and a boatload of signing bonus, etc.


Face it, Johnny Manziel is still the future of this team at QB. Not saying how that is going to work out, but it's stupid to think we are not going to give him a real shot before we move in another direction. McCown is here to maybe start but mostly to help Manziel.


Just take the emotion out of it and you will arrive at the same conclusion as I. Honor Spock today. Think logically. Every move we have made to this point is to help Johnny.

Vincent Jackson, Mike Evans, and Austin Sefarian-Jenkins disagree with you.

McCown more likely OK being a backup than Hoyer. Farmer/Pettine will do everything they can getting Johnny Manziel to start next year. Why? They are betting their job on it! No GM or HC employed starts a journeyman over a first round pick. I can assure you Farmer will not draft a QB in the first round this year. How can an owner trust a GM who can't judge talent? How can an owner trust a HC who can't get a first round QB ready enough to be a backup? Everybody and his brother knew QB was a important pick last year. Farmer/Pettine stated Johnny is their man.

It's show time!

It appeared Josh McCown was headed to Buffalo. It took old-school recruiting by #Browns to secure him. Pettine, Haslam, Defilippo did work

In a classy gesture, #Browns HC Mike Pettine and GM Ray Farmer contacted Hoyer to let him know they were going to sign McCown.

Look folks. It has been widely reported we have reached out to camp Hoyer and nothing has come of that. It's easy to assume they wanted more in terms of money and years then we were willing to pay.

McCowan has worked with our new OC in Oakland. He must know his system. That bodes well for both him and Johnny because if you think the team is giving up on a first round QB draft choice after 1 season you are kidding yourself. I don't know if that has ever happened.

McCown is what? Maybe 35-36 years old. He was real happy to get a 3 year deal. Hoyer was probably wanting 5 and a boatload of signing bonus, etc.


Face it, Johnny Manziel is still the future of this team at QB. Not saying how that is going to work out, but it's stupid to think we are not going to give him a real shot before we move in another direction. McCown is here to maybe start but mostly to help Manziel.


Just take the emotion out of it and you will arrive at the same conclusion as I. Honor Spock today. Think logically. Every move we have made to this point is to help Johnny.

One of the worst O Lines in football do..

I doubt anyone is betting their job on JM.

More than likely they have assurances they will keep their jobs IF they start JM. Just so the experiment can end.

I don't even believe that to be true. The rest of the team might win us 5 games...

GM/HC leave and die by the QBs they chose.

Touche.

And how much did they raise ticket prices again?

Glennon played much better behind the same line....

There is nothing about this move that shows that they are trying to improve when we have to square off with a tougher schedule than what we faced last year.

Honor Spock today. Think logically. Every move we have made to this point is to help Johnny.

I simply don't see where making a dramatic improvement at QB was ever an option for this year. We plug the hole and improve the team in other areas. We see what we have in Manziel, and if he isn't the answer, we address the QB future when we have a better set of options.

You forget, we are a teribbly untalented team that sucks and will get blown out every week..



I don't think THEY chose him, is my point..

No GM or HC employed starts a journeyman over a first round pick.

We see what we have in Manziel, and if he isn't the answer, we address the QB future when we have a better set of options.

IMO, throwing good money after bad. Any wind I might have had in my sails after a 7-9 comeback season has vanished. These guys (Browns' FO) just don't seem to get it.

*Glad to see you back, Ballpeen.

#Browns did their homework on McCown: They felt issues last season were related to no OC, major OL problems, lack of running gm, thumb inj.

As for being back, thanks. I don't know if I am that, I just pick and choose these days. As I get older I kind of like watching TV with my cat in my lap. If I had her here, well, let me do that....thetnj,k;.adufjv'oDO;LD;L' LANDCLWIWJD.

oK, i PUT HER DOWN....DARN, SHE HIT MY CAPS LOCK

LMAO - kitty is messin' with ur internets.

I am to the point on Manziel I am not going to place odds on if it is good money or bad money. All I am saying is you can be darn sure we are going to place the money there. I think every team that has ever had a dud QB selection has stuck with the guy at least 2-3 years.

The reason is there have been lots of really good QB who had 2-3 dud seasons before they finally figured it out. So like him or not, it is what it is.

The Browns have agreed to terms with veteran quarterback Josh McCown, general manager Ray Farmer announced Friday.

McCown, 35, spent the past season -- his 12th in the NFL -- with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where he started 11 games.

“Josh is your consummate professional,” Farmer said. “He’s known to be a great guy in the locker room and will be great for the quarterback room. He knows how to get an entire offense on the same page and get a team to rally behind him. He has been exposed to a lot of different types of offenses and we think still has the drive and skill set to be a successful quarterback in this league.

“We are excited to get him and believe he will help continue to move us in the right direction and help us build the type of team that will bring winning football to Cleveland.”

McCown said he’s excited to step into an environment where he can simultaneously compete for a starting job while mentoring the Browns’ young quarterbacks.

“I just want to serve our team and help everybody in that locker room, do my best to help everybody in the locker room be better at their job and they're going to help me, too. It's a two-way street,” McCown said. “I'm just excited about coming in and being a part of a team.

“Year 1 was a solid first year for coach (Mike) Pettine, and to see the vision with what he's got going on is exciting to me. In my room, I want to be able to help those young guys and pass along my knowledge and experiences I've had and help them grow.”

McCown added he’s “going to compete at the best level I can to help our team get better.”

“We're going to be good at running the football and playing defense and being smart with the football at quarterback,” McCown said. “Those are the things I know are going to be stressed. Those are the things I'm going to be focused on as we compete.

“As a quarterback, it starts off with the offensive line. You look at the guys they have there, namely, Joe Thomas and Alex Mack, it's a rare opportunity. Between meeting with the coaches and having a good connection with Coach Pettine and the offensive coaches, and those pieces on offense, that's kind of what drove the ship for me.”

McCown, who hails from Jacksonville, Texas, threw for 2,206 yards, 11 touchdowns and 14 interceptions last season for the Buccaneers. He missed five games with a thumb injury.

McCown thrived in 2013 when he was summoned to starting duty with the Chicago Bears. He accumulated the majority of his 1,829 yards and 13 touchdowns over a stretch of five starts during the second half of the season. During a three-game stretch in late November and early December, he threw for 348 or more yards in each game and eight touchdowns overall.

“Josh is a high-character, savvy, veteran quarterback that has a lot to offer to our team,” Pettine said. “When you hear from people that have been around Josh, they speak of the leadership qualities and the positive impact he has on a locker room. I really enjoyed spending time with him during his visit. He has great passion for playing the quarterback position and wants to show that he can still be successful in this league.

“Obviously, he is a quarterback that has been in a number of systems and he has worked with (Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo) so there is some good familiarity between the two. We are excited to have him become part of our team and we look forward to him playing an important role in our offense.”

A third-round pick in 2002, McCown spent his first four seasons with the Arizona Cardinals, working primarily as a backup until 2004, when he started 13 games. McCown threw for a career-high 2,511 yards and 11 touchdowns that season and followed with six more starts in 2005.

After his time with the Cardinals, McCown spent a season apiece with Detroit (2006), Oakland (2007) and Carolina (2008). While he was with the Raiders, McCown worked under DeFilippo, who was the Raiders’ quarterbacks coach at the time.

After a one-year stint with the UFL’s Hartford Colonials, McCown returned to the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in 2011 before joining the Bears later that season.

What does Hoyer do better than McCown? Also, we are still judging QBs off of the teams record?

Ask me those questions when McCown beats Pittsburgh and Cincinnati next year. You won't, because he won't.

Look folks. It has been widely reported we have reached out to camp Hoyer and nothing has come of that. It's easy to assume they wanted more in terms of money and years then we were willing to pay.

McCowan has worked with our new OC in Oakland. He must know his system. That bodes well for both him and Johnny because if you think the team is giving up on a first round QB draft choice after 1 season you are kidding yourself. I don't know if that has ever happened.

McCown is what? Maybe 35-36 years old. He was real happy to get a 3 year deal. Hoyer was probably wanting 5 and a boatload of signing bonus, etc.


Face it, Johnny Manziel is still the future of this team at QB. Not saying how that is going to work out, but it's stupid to think we are not going to give him a real shot before we move in another direction. McCown is here to maybe start but mostly to help Manziel.


Just take the emotion out of it and you will arrive at the same conclusion as I. Honor Spock today. Think logically. Every move we have made to this point is to help Johnny.

Don't know if it's true or not, just putting it out there -- maybe Hoyer wasn't willing to mentor Manziel?