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Steve Doerschuk
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Jags need free safety, had megacheck ready for McCourty before he stayed in NE. Will look at Gipson option from every angle.

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Gipson, on a possibly ridiculous contract, or pick #36..

It will be interesting to see how much he signs for.

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With the salary cap increasing and the rookie cap in place, salaries for FA's will continue to rise. Looking at the past two FA signing periods won't help anyone arrive at what current FA's will receive. The price tag has gone up.

We have plenty of cap space. One of the keys to success isn't just building through the draft, but developing and retaining them, no? You can't be afraid to pay them market value in a league that has a salary cap that escalates yearly.

Yeah, I'll take one in the hand over two in the bush. The #36 pick in a weak draft for pro bowl talent and the guy is only 24 and improving each year? I'll pass.

Does Sergio Brown play free safety? Cause the Jags are supposedly about to land him.

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I cnt believe we only gave gipson the 2nd round tag. They need to send Farmer for an MRI wait will a brain scan still work when someone's head is obviously up their butt.

If we gave him a 1st round tender no one would touch him, and he'd either have to sign the tender, and be an UFA next year, or negotiate with us with no real offers to base it off of..

We did him a huge favor.

Exactly ThatGuy. I agree.

So, assuming Jax offers him the moon, we either match or get their 2nd rounder this year? I'm okay with either outcome. AS someone mentioned above, they have the 36th pick. That could be nice.

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The staff though should have been anticipating this. No way that Gipson, whether you think he's elite or not, wasn't going to get attention.

Wish we wouldn't have even gave other teams a chance to think about being able to acquire him. Losing Skrine and Gipson would be quite a massive blow...

I think they absolutely did. That's why he got the second round tender.

They DID anticipate it...

This thought process could fall in line with reports that there have been ongoing attempted contract negotiations w/ Gipson. The 2nd round tender could allow him to have the market set his price and resolve the impasse between his agent and the Browns and increase the likelihood of agreeing to a long term deal.

I'm not sure if this is the angle you were looking at it or I just assumed as much.

Either way, he's a guy we cannot afford to lose, imo.

This would net #36 pick from JAX if they snag him. Wonder how much money we'll have to match.

They have to re-sign Skrine AND Gipson.

Technically, turning Gipson into a 2nd round pick would be a huge win for us considering he went undrafted all together, BUT losing a SECOND pro-bowl safety in two years would COMPLETELY SUCK.

Hoping they keep Gipson.

Losing him would almost guarantee we have to take Collins (Safety from Alabama) at either #12 or #19.

If what all of Gipson's detractors are saying is true in taht Pettine's system pretty much manufactures Free Safety INT stats with the positions it puts them in, then we're basically printing Draft Picks here and we'll reload with a lesser pick in the Draft.


Of course, I don't believe any of that for a second, but at the same time, I think that you just need to find someone with football smarts and athleticism to put back there in this defense.

Sheard visiting the Pats.

Yes, but Gipson had a good year before Pettine got here.

The guy was a real find by Heckert. He has been praised by every defensive coach who has been here. He always seems to be in the right spot. He has great hands and pretty good instincts.

He is a playmaker and a second round pick guarantees nothing. Look at our recent first round picks..........TRich, Weeden, Giblert, and Manziel. Would you trade Gipson for any of them? I sure as hell wouldn't.

They blew it by letting Skrine walk. I sure as heck hope they don't let Gipson escape.

This FO is scaring me.

I've heard there is mutual interest in us re-signing Jordan Cameron.

I read that as well. Makes me wonder if the Graham to SEA didn't throw a monkey wrench into Cameron's plans.

I have a feeling he'd rather resign with CLE than a team like OAK. Just a hunch.

Oakland is probably going to get Greshem. It looks like he ran out of options. That is fine with me.

I liked skrine but he was the grabbiest clingiest corner in the NFL and with the way the rules are going, I dont know how he is going to do and especially as these receivers continue to be 6-5 and 220. Its a loss and I hate to see him go but I dont know what level of loss it will be just yet.

As for gipson there isnt more than 10 guys in the entire draft class that I would take over him. I think he is going to be a double didgit int FS year in and year out in this defense. He has smarts back there and he is learning and adapting to this scheme.

Personally I dont know why NFL teams covet draft picks over proven talent. It is beyond me.

I think Haden is way more handsy than Skrine is. He just gets away w/more. Guys like Sherman use their hands more.

Furthermore, Skrine isn't making the kind of money those guys are. Look Mourg...........you know me, I couldn't stand the Skrine pick at first. The guy sucked. I said so. But, he proved me wrong by his play on the field the last two years. I ain't praising him because I ALWAYS did and he was one of my "regimes" picks. The kid can play. That is the bottom line.

I completely agree w/you about Gipson and how teams covet draft picks over proven talent. We're cool w/that, bro.

Yep. I agree. Though been reported Browns interested in Gresham too. Gresham could be each teams backup plan. Ha.

I know he is a bit of a headcase, but I really like Gresham. I hope it is true that the Browns are interested in him. I love that guy's talent. He is a match-up nightmare for teams who want to play some sort of man coverage.

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Talented CB Perrish Cox is set to visit the #Browns on Thursday. The #Redskins get his first visit tomorrow, though.

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Cox is probably as good as Skrine is right now. He is just older and has less upside. That means he will likely come cheaper. I think he would be an ideal player to bring in to replace Skrine.

From the crazy training sessions that Gilbert has been having with Haden that has been reported, we can hope Cox is our dime corner next year.

If that's the case, we will be in a very good situation.

We are giving a lot of responsibility to two players who have proven nothing. Some could argue they have actually proven worse than nothing. . . that they are bad.

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Brandon Browner is in New Orleans for a visit. Washington, Baltimore, Cleveland, Jacksonville also interested.

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This would instantly make me feel better about not reacquring Skrine. Haden and Cox would be a decent CB duo worthy of writing home about, IMO!

I'm happy if we Get cox or Browner.

I agree with that. Serious money. After all the "Play Like a Brown" jabber, it is time to shut up and put up serious money for your best.

Marlon Moore re-signed.

whats a Marlon?

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Josh McCown ended up with a bigger contract than Hoyer.

@AlbertBreer: Brian Hoyer's deal in Houston: 2 years, $10.5 million; $4.75 million guaranteed.

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He is there in case Mallet struggles