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J/C
Not too worried so far with the FA.
I do not have anybody in particular in mind for the draft this year.
I always beat the O-line drum.
Now there are a lot more spots to fill than I figured we were going to have to address. It looks to be getting worse.
I sure hope none of us say "WHO!?" one time during the first two rounds during the draft. Anywhoos,... GO BROWNS! WOOF.

How do you figure that?

Hoyer - 2yrs $10.5 mill = $5.25 mill a year
McCown - 3 yrs $14 mill = $4.67 mill a year

Hoyer - Guaranteed money $4.75 mill = 45% of total contract

McCown - Guaranteed money $6.25 mill = 44.6% of total money

Looks to me that Hoyer has the slightly better contract.

If thats all Hoyer signed for then the only thing this FO was doing was letting him go they hated him for some unknown reason to the point of taking a clearly inferior player to replace him with, and for nothing by NFL standards....

I don't get it at all if true this FO has screwed the pooch....Haslam is clueless get used to it I guess..

McCown got more than every available free agent QB. It makes no sense.

McCown? By who? Only us.

Or, simply, Hoyer wanted a better shot to be the starter. Every opportunity would be given to JFF. It is what most teams do when they draft a player in the first round. Hoyer has a more favorable chance in either NY or Houston. Both their QBs already were given a fair shot to prove themselves.

How was Mallett given a fair shot? He started two games and then got hurt.

I was thinking Fitz. I forgot Mallett was signed. Wow, Hoyer choose Houston over Jets. I hope it was better money.

He started one game, got hurt the next week in warmups, and started the game anyways.

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Therein lies the problem. Hoyer wants to be a starter. If the FO plans to give Manzel the start then that creates a problem for Hoyer. If they're dead set on giving Manzel the chance then it was better to let Hoyer go and bring in a comparable QB, such as McCown, who is willing to be the back-up.

That avoids problems between the QBs.

I think that is all Hoyer got because a lot of his options dried up before free agency even started.

All decent QB's get market value or above. Hoyer got paid what he was worth. Back up money.

Mallet got 2 years, $7M, $1.75M guaranteed.

McCown's is 3 years and 14 million..

They're basically the same thing.. We just end up paying more guarenteed right away, and then can make a decision every year whether or not to bring him back..

And McCown is ok with being the backup, which IMO is why we brought him in..

Still don't understand Hoyer picking Houston, unless he assumes Mallett will struggle..

Fish. Rhymes with tarpon? Am I the only one aboard who said, "Who?"

Big splash, neh?

So much for starter money ......

He could have had more than that from the Browns last year. They just didn;t want to pay him as a starter.

What is #gmstrong ??

Anyone?

#GMSTRONG

Thanks Tulsa. My prayers are out...

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago
The #Patriots signed former #Browns DE Jabaal Sheard to a 2-year deal worth $11M. $5.5M guaranteed. They liked him in the draft.

I figured they'd sign Sheard. He's probably a good fit in theor D.

Cameron & Poyer. What happens next?

Good for him. He wasn't a fit here schematically. Wish him the best. He was very active in the community especially with kids. Pats are a good landing spot for him.

Here's a quick take.....

Adam SchefterVerified account
@AdamSchefter
Text from one league source on Patriots landing former Browns LB/DE Jabaal Sheard: "Will be top 5 signing of free agency, guarantee it."

Schefter Tweet

mack?

I'd be curious if Miami would be able to match an offer to Clay the way are having to cut players to make cap room. He'd be a nice signing for the Browns.

Omar KellyVerified account
@OmarKelly
Charles Clay hasn't signed his offer sheet from the Bills and might visit the Browns. Jordan Cameron begins his visit with Miami today.

Tweet

4?

Bills also pursueing Anthony Fasano...

I hate to be the message-board police, but, unfortunately I'm anal about stupid things. Isn't this thread only about OUR free agents? As in guys on the team that may or may not leave?

Sorry, had to ask.

Have we signed any of our own? Almost looks like we are hanging them out there for draft picks. This brilliance is eluding me.

Strictly speaking, that's likely true. However, I guess you could loosely interpret it to mean FA's for whom we have expressed an interest. Threads do seem to wander at times, but eventually get to back on topic...

I still say 4.

Marlon Moore and Shaun Draughn as far as I know.

New England's a good spot for Sheard. I can see him filling the Mike Vrabel role for Belichick nicely. I wonder if he'll get to score touchdowns in goal line situations too.

Honestly.

Jabaal Sheard signing with New England stings, but the guy wasn't irreplaceable. He was stout against the run, but merely average in pass coverage and rushing the passer. I liked him, but didn't love him.

Jordan Cameron has nothing but injury issues, and he doesn't want to be here (as he's admitted to media). Let him go.

Atyba Rubin under performed last year and is getting up there in age. I like Bryant, Winn, Taylor and Bryant better, plus I'm 95% sure we'll be drafting a DT early this year.

Losing Buster Skrine hurt, but it sounds like we'll be in the market for another veteran to replace him, plus we have Gilbert, Williams and Desir.

None of these guys were irreplaceable....

Gipson & Robertson need signed to long term deals though. 100% agree there.

Ryan Seymour and who could forget Spencer Lanning!

People are acting like we let one of our best offensive weapons walk and traded our best defensive player..

Oh wait, that was Baltimore..

Bugs the way I have it figured we are tanking it this season to set up the draft for next year.

All the talk about competition at ALL positions is just that talk. Just like accountability was all talk.

JF was going to get his shot but he was going to have to earn his starting position, I don't understand why they feel its necessary to put the team and us fans totally in the hands of a drunk and a spoiled lazy brat. Unless of course the plan is to tank the season.

I'm tired of losing and believing that JF will resolve his personal issues and stop being who he has been is akin to believing a dog can morph into a cat.

They have stacked the deck for us to lose and are making damned sure we get the 1st pick of the draft next year, it will be a great thing if it happens but oh so awful to have to watch this year.

JMHO and a sad thing too!

In all honesty, with the amount of talent (yes we actually have that) that we have (and can still get more)

I don't think it's at all possible for us to get the #1 pick.. Probably won't even be in the top 5..

If things go bad, I'd see at worse, 5-11.. And that's picking 6 through 10 range in an average year..

I have no problem saying we could probably win 6+ games next year..

But I assume that just means I'm an idiot FO lover who knows nothing about football..