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That's not exactly true, bro. Go back to the Cameron thread and read it. Most people wanted no part of him.

Check it out.

I have to disagree with your assessment that Cameron is a low effort guy. That is simply not true.

Does he have a history of injury yes. But, just look at the play he got hurt last season. He flat laid out for a ball over the middle against the Raiders and got rocked by a safety. Guess what he held on to the ball.

If you want to question signing him for 15 mil because of injury history fine. But he is not a low effort player.

I wanted clay a LOT more ... sigh

I don't need to....or maybe want to. My point isn't so much about Cameron as it is the constant moaners who really have nothing better to do but complain about everything the team does.


I am sick of it.

I agree w/that.

There are so many people that complain over and over and over and over about anyone who doesn't say that the Brown's FO is really doing a great job.

They make sarcastic comments in purple, as if people are too stupid to recognize sarcasm. LOL.........if you have to tell people you are being sarcastic, the effect of brilliant sarcasm is actually lost. The beauty of sarcasm is to say it w/a straight face.......or in the case of message boards......do not use purple font.

Back to your point..........someone questions whether or not it is a good move to sign a guy like McCown.......and 20 people COMPLAIN about how someone dare question Farmer. Meanwhile, they are the same guys who had "The Three Stooges" in their sig or referenced that term over and over and over and over and over again just a year ago.

Ironic, isn't it.......Pastor?

Didn't think you were. Depends how you look at it, annual average or 2015 salary, but either way it's not top tier money, average he's 5th, 2015 money he's 8th.

It's not a ridiculous contract. The question still remains, how many games will he play in those two years?

Okay..........thanks again for taking the time to look things up and trying to explain. I appreciate it.

I would've much rather overpaid to retain Sheard and Skrine than Cameron.

I see no other plan on the horizon than to tank this season in the hopes of landing a QB.

I'm not trying to say the sky is falling, nor am I complaining about a lack of signings...this is just par for the course, and it's not the worst idea in the world. I've been through enough rebuilds to become numb to it.

I would've been content with re-signing Skrine and Sheard and maybe bringing in a few role players. That would've at least indicated an attempt to move forward. But don't be fooled - we're planning to lose next year.

Cutting bait on Manziel and looking to the future is our best course of action right now.

Cameron would've been best served to go to a contender.

Non-blocking receiving threat at TE is a luxury for high octane offenses. Square peg, round hole with us.

Wow putting that way it's not too great, but when you are the Browns you will have to pay more bottom line. I just wish we could see what he could do with a real QB, but we'll never find that out.

Why are we signing and resigning bums, yet letting go productive players?

Cameron's one good year involved Gordon getting doubled and tripled covered.

Sorry, but consistently, Cameron has been trash. on top of he can't even stay on the damn field. and he can't block.

Swear to god we keep digressing.

We lost Sheard and Buster, who by the way we should've resign BOTH, because Mingo is trash and Gilbert and Desir showed jack crap.

We signed a #2 WR when we already had plenty of those on the squad already. Great, Hartline has good hands and runs good routes. So does Austin, Hawk, and Gabriel.

I can see and understand building through the draft. But we are CONSTANTLY creating holes to this point: Has anybody else came to realize that we always end up needing the SAME positions every. single. year?

Now, once again, we need another CB.

now, once again, we need another OLB.

now, once again, we need another QB.

And now, once again, we need another TE. We could've went after some good TE's in FA, made that our one big FA signing, and called it a day and went into the draft.

I swear my receding hair line is strictly because of the Browns.

Vers isn't the reason I complain. I agree with him way more then I don't. I am hurt he felt I was directing my comments at him in a straight line way.


I liked Banner. I liked Mangini. When the SHTF between Savage and John Collins, I took up for Collins. He was right.....and the results show that he was right.


Vers....you really think I would be like Mac and simply make some snide remark to you because I disagreed with your opinion?


Please, jump off that horse with me. I think you know me well enough I am not going to take that approach. I like to think I am good enough to express my opinion and take on the issues point by point. Heck, I don't even see where we disagree other than maybe on Manziel and possibly Farmer.

It is.

He's tied for 4th in annual salary with all but 1600yds, 10 TDs through 4 seasons. That's not the kind of track record to warrant such a deal...and that's not even considering his numerous concussions. A player that is one concussion away from his career end, normally has not much leverage in contract talks. And then he's coming of a bad season....he had zero leverage for such a high deal, thus it IS ridiculous

Money aside. The message this sends is simply horrible. That's the bigger issue I have with this re-signing. Cameron didn't improve his blocking and was indeed a low effort guy doing it. He's always been more of a finesse, receiving TE. A good one when everything went right, but still limited due to lack of physicality.

Oh well, hopefully he stays healthy and has a monster season. He gets paid like a top TE, so he better produce much more than last season

Cameron had a decent 6 game span in 2013. since then he's done very little even when healthy.
horrible run blocker who gets stood up and pushed back.
Not a kind of guy thats gonna drag a defender either.
He's one more concussion away from retiring.
The Browns over paid for him.
But I see why he signed.
The Browns are desperate for targets and the demand for Cameron was low.

overpaid?

Nah peen, I don't think that.

We're good. I just want you to remember back to the day that no matter what you said was ridiculed by the masses. It got old, didn't it? I was there w/you.

Look man, I ain't bad-mouthing the moves because I hate the FO. I just am offering my honest opinion and I HATE when people act like I don't have the right to voice it.

Then, I got some so-called holy man saying I am filled w/the devil because I didn't agree w/him.

Agreed

I'm a little bummed we didn't keep Skrine. I'm glad Cameron is back. I'm indifferent about Sheard. I'm glad we don't have to use a top 50 pick on a tight end. We have flexibility to get Malcom Brown at 12 and Xavier Cooper or Carl Davis at 43 and really beef up our line if we want. Opens up the possibilities anyways.

It's not my money, I couldn't care less what they pay him. The Browns have to spend it somehow...

I'd rather have him on the team, who seems to be well liked in the locker room and DOES give effort on his routes/catches (ok, his blocking blows), rather than just about any other available TE on the market.

When healthy, he's a top 5 TE. Why not try to keep him on the team?

He's worth more at that price than Buster "$1 million per pass interference penalty" Skrine.

Now I'm reading he signed with the dolphins

wtf

Nate Ulrich ‏@NateUlrichABJ 54s54 seconds ago
#Browns never confirmed agreement had been struck with Jordan Cameron and now @CharlesRobinson reports Cameron is signing with #Dolphins.

Unbelievable.

Cameron signed with the Dolphins not browns

Is this Stooges worthy or what?

This Fo is like the pants down joke. I mean really, that's pathetic, sorry. Can the NFL just step in? Please?

On the bright side, the guys that just said this was a good move to keep him----after saying it was a bad move to keep him.........will now say that it was a good move by the Browns to let him walk.

Of course I remember, but I can't say I didn't like it. Not saying I did, simply saying that I really didn't care all that much.


I didn't like having to go back and restate my issues because some Yahoo joined mid conversation and started things from the beginning that Diam and I had going on for hours or days and then had 6 arguments going on at once. That got old, but no, I don't forget. My recall for conversations and positions is still pretty strong.

That's why I said it would take a heck of a lot more than this to chap my ass to the point I didn't consider you a friend.

I have been away for a while. Earlier today I was looking through my account and found 36 pages of private conversations. I guess they pulled up when the site made some changes. So I started deleting them. They went back to 06. Several times I would pull one up and every time could recall almost to the word the reply. Shoot, I had a 4-5 question/reply with Danglet in 06 in one, and it seemed like a converstaion we had 5-6 hours ago.

j/c

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo
Reports of Jordan Cameron's agreement with the Browns were news to the Browns, who hadn't heard back on their offer.

Link

If he signs with Miami then I doubt they match an offer on Clay

Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot 3m3 minutes ago
In a post that's been up since 6:15, I wrote:"A source told Northeast Ohio Media Group that an agreement hasn't yet been reached'' w/Cameron

Good. Cameron is trash.

Good grief.....these guys are truly a walking joke at this point. They freaking leaked it to their beat writers for goodness sakes. How can you do that unless you KNOW it's a done deal. Would love to know the collective IQ of Haslem, and the FO....betting doesn't break 180 collectively.

Silly season continues.

According to ProFootballTalk, the Dolphins signing Cameron means they'll likely remove the tag from Clay.

LINK

And the Browns will still have to outbid Buffalo for Clay.

Maybe it is an article but from MKC tweets, she never says that. Anyways, if this happens this way, it looks rather embarrassing.

It is good comedy, though.

And it's even more entertaining watching the guys who play Regime Wars flip-flop like a carp out of water.

The tweet said the Browns didn't confirm they signed Jordan. How's that bad on the FO?

You bag on the FO for signing the guy (per a bogus report), and now you're bashing them because they actually didn't sign the guy? Isn't this where someone yells 'AGENDA!"

Vers, this is why people sometimes bash a reporter when stuff comes out about our team. You're taking a lot of heat right now, so I want to be clear I'm talking about one specific thing you tend to say. Some of these reporters are trash, and think that if they put "per a source" anywhere in their article that makes it legitimate reporting. This is why people question the reporters before believing their (usually damming) "report".

Hehe, and say that'S what they said all along. It always works

If true, how would this be an embarrassment for the Browns? They make an offer, someone else reports he's signed it, and then he goes to the Dolphins. Big whoop.

And good, I didn't want him back anyway.