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If Mariotta had come out last year he would be a Brown. Farmer really, really liked him. I would not be surprised if we go after him.

John Carroll quarterback Mark Myers ranked No. 9 by Mel Kiper heading into NFL combine (photos)



John Carroll quarterback Mark Myers practices at Don Shula Stadium in 2013. Myers hopes to become another in a long line JCU players who found work in the NFL.
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on February 20, 2015 at 4:31 PM, updated February 20, 2015 at 5:48 PM


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns won't have to look far for one of the top 10 college quarterbacks this spring. John Carroll senior Mark Myers cracked analyst Mel Kiper Jr.'s list of top 10 QBs in the upcoming NFL Draft.
Kiper added Myers (6-5, 220) to his list this week at No. 9. He was the lone QB not from an FBS college on Kiper's list.

"I feel really good about the situation. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,'' Myers said.
Myers was not invited to the NFL combine in Indianapolis this week. Instead of running and throwing for scouts, the St. Ignatius grad from Pepper Pike spent Friday afternoon working out at Speed Strength Systems in Chesterland.

Myers is to attend the University of Toledo's pro day March 16 and work out in front of scouts there, along with JCU All-American receiver Aramis Greenwood and Notre Dame College lineman Doniel Gambrell.

Here are Kiper's Top 10 QBs heading into the combine:
1. Jameis Winston, Florida State
2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
3. Brett Hundley, UCLA
4. Bryce Petty, Baylor
5. Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
6. Sean Mannion, Oregon State
7. Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana
8. Rakeem Cato, Marshall
9. Mark Myers, John Carroll
10. Grant Hedrick, Boise State

Kiper had this to say about his new list on espn.com:

"The names that weren't on the previous ranking are the final three on the list -- Cato, Myers, and Hedrick. I'm not sure any QB has moved up for me more in the past month than Hedrick, who has a chance to stick on a roster. He lacks height (he is just under 6 feet) but does a lot of other things well. Frankly, it's a pretty thin class and I wouldn't be surprised if we see more movement after Petty, as pro days will shift some evals for guys down the list. Blake Sims (Alabama) was on the edge here."

Myers hired an agent Thursday, Cleveland-based Andy Kabat, who is at the combine.
"I didn't realize how much buzz there would be (about Myers) until we arrived here,'' Kabat said in a phone interview. "A lot of scouts have been asking about him.''

Myers, a left-hander who missed training camp with a broken throwing hand, played 12 games in 2014 and led JCU to its second consecutive playoff berth while breaking numerous school records. He completed 67.3 percent of his passes (255-of-379) for 3,428 yards and 41 touchdowns, with just four interceptions. He averaged 13.4 yards per completion and had a passer rating of 176.8, which ranked fourth in NCAA Division III.
John Carroll used a pro-style offense with Myers under center, and he was strictly a pocket passer who did not score a rushing touchdown.

"That definitely gave me an opportunity to prove myself,'' Myers said. "I've been under center since I was at Ignatius. (JCU) Coach (Tom) Arth really stepped up with the pro offense and put a lot on my plate. He wanted me to work toward this year and the next level, and made it as realistic as possble.''
Myers could follow the career path of Arth, also a St. Ignatius grad, who was an undrafted free agent out of John Carroll. Arth became an Indianapolis Colts backup for three seasons behind Peyton Manning, and he played in NFL Europe.

Myers began his college career at Pittsburgh, played three years at John Carroll and broke many of Arth's JCU records. Myers won't have to explain where John Carroll is to most NFL coaches or executives. For a Division III school, John Carroll has a long list grads who have played, coached or been executives in the NFL, including Don Shula, London Fletcher, Chargers GM Tom Telesco, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman. JCU's defensive coordinator last season, Chris Shula, recently was hired by the Chargers.

Another local quarterback, Michigan State junior Connor Cook of Hinkley Township, had been ranked as high as fourth by Kiper last season, but elected to return for his senior season. Cook is a Walsh Jesuit grad.

Oops forgot the link

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/02/john_carroll_quarterback_mark.html

I didn't know Mariota was gay!

In all seriousness, if Mariota declared after the 2013 season he would be a Texan.

Perhaps, then again maybe not.

j/c:

I would not draft any of the QBs in this year's draft. It's a bad year for QBs, similar to the draft of two years ago when EJ Manual was the first qb chosen.

Teams send deceiving messages about who they are going to take all the time. No one can say that the Browns would have taken Mariotta last year. NO ONE!

We had a chance last year to draft a good qb. We blew it. That means we are still paying for our sins. Making a desperate move to try and fix a stupid move is beyond ignorant.

Say no to drafting a qb this year.

Oh............and Connor Cook. He's okay, but his accuracy is an issue. Very erratic.

Winston is toxic, Mariotta may not be anything more thann another first read QB. We have plenty of those.

We gotta get Bradford or Sanchez.

Mariotta is a far better QB than Sanchez will ever hope to be.

I agree Vers. Just because there is a list of qb's be it the draft or fa doesn't mean they are any good.

If I took a QB in this draft it would be a monster trade for Winston. Or take Sean Mannion in the 4th round.

I want nothing to do with Winston. I don't care where he end up in the draft. I want nothing to do with him. Period.

The QB who surprised me with his throwing in Combine drills today was Bryce Petty. He would be worth a look in rounds 3 or 4.

Brice Petty did look very good. A very live arm that is for sure.

I read that as "Prince Pretty"

Fixed it...

I agree.

I have been on record as saying I don't like any of this year's quarterbacks, but Petty impressed me at the Combine. He has good feet and a lively arm. He adapted well to dropping back.

I had previously dismissed him because he plays for Baylor and their offense is not a good place to learn how to play in the NFL, but he showed me quite a bit today.

I liked his footwork, his demeanor, his ball placement, his arm strength, etc.

Might be worth a shot if he isn't drafted in round one.

Heck, maybe even in the first if we get a WR at 12, trade the 19th pick for more picks and grab Petty at the bottom of the first round.

Our new QB coach coached Petty leading up to the combine. He should have some good insight.

I think we should just avoid the QB position altogether. Sign two veteran guys, let them battle it out, have Manziel as the third QB.

I really don't know what we should do. Lot's of uncertainty.

Like I said on another thread and some guys are beating me up for it..........but, if we would have drafted Teddy.....heck......or even Carr.......we would not be having this conversation this year.

I was 100% behind the draft Johnny movement, but if that story is true about the Browns paying some firm to come up with Teddy as the best QB prospect in the draft... That's awful. Hindsight is great, but allegedly that info was on their desk that day.

What story is that? I haven't heard of that?

We didn't draft either of them. End of story. Hindsight. Whatever you want to call it.

Had we draftd Brady, or Luck.....we wouldn't be discussing qb's. We didn't.

Live in the here and now.

You do realize that we still have the same regime as we had last year, right? And you do realize that the regimes that passed on Brady and made no attempt to draft Luck are gone.......right?

Like Indy was going to trade that pick after tanking a season to get there?

j/c...

Chip Kelly was somad when they showed him watching the clips of Mariota on the NFLN today, lol.

He looked good Saturday, love his size and think he would translate well to the AFC North. I'd make a grab for him in the second round assuming Mariota can't be had.

I'm honestly only interested in Drafting/Acquiring a QB this off-season if we plan on them as the starter..

If they feel Petty can come in, and start right away, then yes, id draft him.. (and I like Petty)

But if the plan is to grab someone that needs to sit and learn, no thanks, I'll work on other areas of the team..

Browns 'poised' to trade up for Mariota

http://www.yardbarker.com/all_sports/articles/browns_poised_to_trade_up_for_mariota/18499112

Originally written on 60 Max Power O | Last updated 3/23/15

According to Josh Edwards of CBS Sports, the Browns are 'poised' to trade up to select Oregon's Marcus Mariota in the 2015 NFL Draft.

Edwards cites fellow CBS analyst Jason La Canfora as saying:

'They are picking No. 12 and clearly needy for a quarterback and a stable citizen at the helm. Josh McCown is a great caretaker but he's not the future. And Johnny Manziel had about as much of a lost rookie season as one could imagine. His future is already in doubt. The Browns have been peddling their 19th overall pick for Bradford – in both St. Louis and now Philadelphia – and owner Jimmy Haslam has been very intrigued by Mariota for quite some time. And make no mistake, his fingerprints were all over the Manziel selection. You can't rule the Browns out by any stretch here, with the draft picks and willingness to do it. Haslam likes splash moves.'


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So speculation based purely on we don't have a QB and have two 1st round picks. Great. O_o

In years past, all draft talk at this time of year was considered "silly season". I see no difference this year. Yes we need a QB. But do you think they would let it be known about our draft plans so early? In fact the more we hear about drafting a QB the more un-likely it is.

The phrase "poised to" would sure seem to make it sound far more imminent that the body of the article seems to indicate.

My new sleeper QB prospect is Austin Dodge of NAIA Southern Oregon University. Throws a pretty deep ball and a quick release. His pocket presence and ability to throw while knowing he's about to get hit seem good. Reminds me a little of Matthew Stafford with his ability to throw with his arm at multiple angles. Level of competition and ability to play under center are concerns. Maybe it's just remembering Hoyer's missing every deep throw outside the hashes that makes me like him, but tell me what you think.

Austin Dodge Youtube Highlights

LaCanfora has all those inside sources within the Browns organization like Lombardi and Banner lol. I knew he was the one that told Casserly we offered a first for Bradford. The only reason he is putting this article out there now is so when we dont trade up he can say how Haslam vetoed the trading up for Mariotta and left farmer hanging in the wind.

Guys like this is what gives sports journalism such a bad name. You dont have to ever be correct. You can make crap up as you go and then just tie an unnamed source to it. He has an ongoing vendetta with the Browns and frankly needs his ass kicked.

This might do down like the RG3 deal a few years back. Instead of wheeling and dealing the day of the draft, Tennessee (if they don't want to take Mariota that high) may just start getting teams to compete against each other and take the best offer. Why wait? If 'Mariota @ #2' is clearly the case, take the best offer and run. No point dancing around it when you can get the same value now or later, then plan your draft accordingly post-deal.

I think we bought our Town & Country from him.

Supposedly DeFilippo and O'Connell were at Garrett Grayson's pro day today (3/23/2015).

I hope the "texting" GM stays put with picks 12 and 19. As good as Mariota is, he is still a project. We have plenty of those already.