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Ricky smoking bud, again By Chris Mortensen ESPN.com Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams tested positive for marijuana in April and will not be allowed to apply for reinstatement to the NFL until September, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. Williams was suspended last year for violation of the substance abuse policy and was eligible to be reinstated this month, but the league's medical advisors that oversee Williams' personal rehabilitation program recently notified commissioner Roger Goodell of the positive test, sources said. The doctors also recommended that Williams not be allowed to apply for reinstatement until September, sources said. The commissioner usually adheres to the advice of the medical advisors under the substance abuse policy. "Falling off the wagon is part of rehab," a source said. "Based on the medical evidence in Ricky's case, the doctors say it's too early to come back. He had the positive test last month. Remember, he's been diagnosed with social anxiety disorder -- that's a real disease and a good percentage of those folks self-medicate with substances like marijuana, often at the moment they are about to have a high level of social interaction." League spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL would have no comment, as did Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene. David Cornwell, an attorney who has represented Williams during his substance abuse cases, said he would honor the confidentiality policies in effect with another no comment. Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. =================================================== Ha ha ha ha....dumbass.
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I doubt many are surprised by this. Too bad. I hope he can straighten out his life at some point.
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Ok,, someone set me straight on something that makes me wonder.. Lets say that a player for the Raiders, Chargers or 49ers use MJ as a medicinal supplement as allowed by California Law... does he still get booted out of the league under the Substance Abuse policy? Further, if he is allowed under California law to smoke some weed, can the league ban him from playing any games outside of California? Why or how can a sports' internal rules supercede a State Law? If that's what is actually taking place? Do I have this right or am I totally confused? 
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I'm sure it's built in to a player's contract.
It's not about superceding state law. It's about waiving a right you have under a state statute or court decision. Many times you have the abilities to waive certain rights when you contract.
I'm sure one of the clauses he agreed to was to abide by the league's substance abuse policy. Although if it came down to medical necessities, I'm sure the league would take that into consideration.
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First LOL! at Icky Williams.
Moron. How does a person get hooked on pot?  It's non-habit forming. What's harder to accept isn't that Williams is a smoker, it's that he's a LIAR. I listened to him being interviewed on the Dan Patrick show a couple of weeks ago, and he was ADAMANT that he hadn't smoked in a year or something like that. Freakin' idiot. I hope the CFL pays well, because it's gonna take him a long time to pay back that $8 million bucks. I'm sure all your illegitimate children look up to you Ricky 
Now, understand that smokin' pot isn't legal. Using Pot as medicine when prescribed by a doctor is. If Williams has a condition that forces him to smoke, he'd be ok under state law.
However, the NFL doesn't have to follow those rules. The legalities are beyond me to explain, suffice it to say that banned substances in leagues like MLB and the NFL are final.
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oh, Ricky - you're so pathetic.
i liked me some weed in the day, but to throw away a career in the NFL for some ganj is refriggindiculous.
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First LOL! at Icky Williams.
Moron. How does a person get hooked on pot? It's non-habit forming. What's harder to accept isn't that Williams is a smoker, it's that he's a LIAR. I listened to him being interviewed on the Dan Patrick show a couple of weeks ago, and he was ADAMANT that he hadn't smoked in a year or something like that. Freakin' idiot. I hope the CFL pays well, because it's gonna take him a long time to pay back that $8 million bucks. I'm sure all your illegitimate children look up to you Ricky
Give me a break... sure pot isn't gonna make you feel like withdrawin from coke or oxys or somethin, but not habit forming? give me a break... look how many freakin potheads are in this country... i know a ton of people that try and quit weed and always end up smoking again... thats what we call addiction aint it? kinda bugs me to watch people like you sit on a high horse and talk smack about this guy... sure he wasted a great career, but isn't that enough damage he should sustain? all the endless ridicule is lame
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Tell that to his ilegitimate kids who aren't seeing a dime because he had them, then ditched them so he could get high.
Hey, here's something to think about: I smoke once in a while. I have numerous friends who smoke. Not one of'em smokes daily, and some of 'em have addictive personalities. One's an alcoholic. When we go out, he often jokes at how he feels the urge to get a shot of Jack, but when asked about pot, he always says "Weed? Nobody at my AA meetings are hooked on it. I could care less." 
The only thing that Williams has which earns my sympathy is Social Anxiety Disorder. He'll point to that as the reason he smokes pot, but he needs to be smart enough to get help for a REAL disorder. If he'd rather go off and learn about hoalistic medicine instead of taking care of his life, then I don't give a rats ass about Icky Williams.
I'm sure the mothers of his kids feel sorry for him exactly like you do........
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I can't believe this guy can't pass on a bong hit for a few more years until he could retire and have enough money to live in a home constructed solely of weed.
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Ok,, someone set me straight on something that makes me wonder..
Lets say that a player for the Raiders, Chargers or 49ers use MJ as a medicinal supplement as allowed by California Law... does he still get booted out of the league under the Substance Abuse policy?
Further, if he is allowed under California law to smoke some weed, can the league ban him from playing any games outside of California?
Why or how can a sports' internal rules supercede a State Law? If that's what is actually taking place?
Do I have this right or am I totally confused?
You're confused
Try thinking of it in terms of tobacco.
Plenty of companies do not permit you to use tobacco products as a condition of employment... this is no different.
Legal or Not Legal is irrellevant as acceptance of the League's Drug Policy is a condition for employment by that League. His failure means that he is subject to their rules as such.
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Legal or Not Legal is irrellevant as acceptance of the League's Drug Policy is a condition for employment by that League. His failure means that he is subject to their rules as such.
Well said and on point.
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It's sillyness.
It's silly to ban somebody because they like to smoke grass on occasion.
And it's silly to throw a career away because you elect to smoke it.
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Maybe so, but it is what it is It's silly to pay $5 for a popcorn at a movie.
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I guess I'm kinda' glad my wife ususally doesn't want to see a movie when I suggest one.
This bums me a bit because semi secretly, I was hoping that he would slide over to our team. He's really quite a good RB. But if he can't stop tokin', we can't have him.
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I don't know about this whole deal. Yes, Sticky has been smoking weed, and yes, its a violation of the leagues substance abuse policy; but if he is to receive a lifetime ban or a year or two year suspension, then I find that a bit ridiculous.
Mainly b/c you have people in the league who have either been accused or convicted of doing far worse things than simply smoking some weed.
Take for instance the issues that Ray Lewis had, Leonard Little, Jamal Lewis, Pacman, Mike Vick, McNair, Chris Henry, Jerramy Stevens, etc, etc. These guys have been accused of serious offenses and they still play. But we are looking at suspending sticky for years; over him smoking reefer. It seems like Ricky getting high is the least of the crimes that have been committed by players today---and yet we are looking at handing down one of the harshest punishments.
IMO punishment should fit the crime.
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I use to feel sorry for Sticky Icky Ricky, but after failing that many drug test for weed with millions of dollars at stake(6 digets of cash at the minimum) it just makes me shake my head. He has something mentally wrong with him if he cant quit weed. With the money he makes, he should be able to afford something to clean out his system, or at least by a test to see if he can pass. He would only have to quit smoking weed for a month tops to pass a test. I guess he is going to have to spend the rest of his career in the CFL.
With his skills since he was in college, and most likely high school, it just shows that you can function and live a normal productive life smoking weed. But then again, Lawynce Tayler did it as a crack head.
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I would imagine they do hair follicle tests which actually go back 6 months or so.
That being said, anyone who can't lay off the herb for the kind of payday RW would have isn't a pot head, he's a BLOCKHEAD. Stoopid is as stoopid does!
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Has Ricky Williams actually ever done anything besides get high and be in the news ?
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Has Ricky Williams actually ever done anything besides get high and be in the news ?
In my eyes, he committed the big sin of letting his team and teammates down by retireing in a fashion that basically didn't allow team to find a suitable replacement.. and the only reason he did it is because he knew he wouldn't pass a drug test..
Outside of that,,, no he's done nothing else that was newsworthy!
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This man is a moron.
To purposely smoke bud knowing that you're soon to be tested for it is beyond stupid.
If money does not motivate you and if bud is not addictive...it seems to be the case that Ricky doesn't want to be a football player but is trying to get paid as a football player.
This man is a moron.
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Tell that to his ilegitimate kids who aren't seeing a dime because he had them, then ditched them so he could get high.
Hey, here's something to think about: I smoke once in a while. I have numerous friends who smoke. Not one of'em smokes daily, and some of 'em have addictive personalities. One's an alcoholic. When we go out, he often jokes at how he feels the urge to get a shot of Jack, but when asked about pot, he always says "Weed? Nobody at my AA meetings are hooked on it. I could care less."
The only thing that Williams has which earns my sympathy is Social Anxiety Disorder. He'll point to that as the reason he smokes pot, but he needs to be smart enough to get help for a REAL disorder. If he'd rather go off and learn about hoalistic medicine instead of taking care of his life, then I don't give a rats ass about Icky Williams.
I'm sure the mothers of his kids feel sorry for him exactly like you do........
When did I say I feel sorry for him? I just think all the bashing is lame. Like everyone here is an angel...
Oh and I don't see where you are going with your comments about weed and alcohol? So you know some people that smoke pot sometimes including yourself but you aren't addicted? Good for you. I know people that are addicted to weed but can have a beer now and again and they aren't alcoholics... Does that mean theres no such thing as an alcoholic? Your logic is off.
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Alcohol creates a physical dependancy if used enough. THC doesn't.
That's all the logic that needs to exist.
Hell, I'm sure some dope somewhere on this planet is addicted to eating crabgrass. That doesn't make it a disease
Williams is an idiot. He deserves every ounce of ridicule he gets.
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The physical part of an addiction is the easy part to kick. Its the mental habit that makes it tough.
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Ricky is an Idiot. He could have kept his nose clean and busted his butt in the NFL until he was 30, then he would have had enough money to retire and sit around and smoke all the pot he wanted for the rest of his life.
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Right. I agree. In fact, it's not the pot that's the problem. It's the Social Anxiety Disorder that's the problem. One leads to the other.
So why am I throwing rocks at Williams? Because he won't do what it takes to keep from smoking pot.
He owes the Dolphins more than $8 million dollars He has several kids by different mothers that aren't seeing a dime because he's not sending them money. So instead of trying to seek therapy to overcome his shyness, he'd rather hang out in Cali, talking about herbs and hoalistic medicine, and smoke dope.
STOOPID.
There's nothing there to excuse or feel sorry for. He's stuck his head in the sand instead of taking responsibility for his own actions. We all face battles with ourselves that we have to overcome in order to make our lives better. This is no different for him, except that there are other lives that ride on the consequences of his actions.
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