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Who do you want?
I am thinking Dorial Green-Beckham or Maxx Williams, I want both lol

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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Who do you want?
I am thinking Dorial Green-Beckham or Maxx Williams, I want both lol


I see no way we take a high pick risk on Beckham-Green. Maybe if he's still there in the 4th .... but he won't be, and I just cannot see us taking that risk.


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I'm hoping we pick the guy that Django doesn't want because his posts are comical.


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Jalen Strong
Devin Smith
Maxx Williams
Eddie Goldman
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That would be my targets.


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
I'm hoping we pick the guy that Django doesn't want because his posts are comical.


Like when I whined about Manziel? That comical?

Look, I'm one of maybe a handful that actually watches those guys extensively on tape around here. You don't have to believe me or have the same opinion, but my track record on sniffing out busts is pretty strong. I was happy when the Steelers took Jarvis Jones, I was the only one with everyone on here (led by Toad) fearing he'd be a stud. What's Jones doing these days? He's so good, they drafted an even bigger pretender in round 1 this year, lol. At least that should seal the Steelers decline, but it doesn't help our clueless drafting of marginal talent.

Shelton and Erving won't be total busts, but they aren't 1st round talents and won't make a difference


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I don't think we will ever pick him, but I'd take Randy Gregory if he was available. Same with Green-Beckham. Those two are clearly the most talented players available.

Devin Smith is great with the deep ball, but I am not sure he can do anything else.

I've heard good things about Preston Smith. Odighizuwa was a beast at UCLA.

In the end, if Eli Harrold is available he has to be the pick.

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I want no part of DGB.

Gregory is talented but a knucklehead. I wouldnt be upset if we got him.

I would go BPA. Then trade up to get Heuerman (-1sp) late in the second.

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Heuerman is like the 5th best tight end and no tight ends have been drafted. If we draft him in the second round we should be very worried that Farmer is incompetent.

I forgot to mention Funchess as an option in round two. I don't know if he has a defined position, but I think he could replace some of what Cameron did (or was supposed to do).

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We'll take another OL. crazy


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I'd most be interested in

TE Maxx Williams
WR Jaelen Strong
OLB Eli Harold
OLB Randy Gregory
DE Preston Smith
OT Jake Fisher
OT TJ Clemmings
WR Devin Smith
S Landon Collins

Im pretty shocked S Collins fell out of round 1...we don't have a huge need there at all...and I'm sure he'll be grabbed up...several Oline will go before us to several needy teams...I've seen a lot of Jaelen Strong, and honestly think worst case scenario is he'll be an average pedestrian WR...The guy really excels at plucking the ball out of the air and adjusts well to off thrown passes (serving he'll see in Cleveland) Still only 21 years old...Big and physical guy

Maxx Williams we all know is the top TE...we have a gaping hole there...

Before the draft started on defense I thought our biggest hole was at pass rushing LB something Eli Harold or Randy Gregory would help with...

I watched Gregory through the year as he was typed as a top 5 pick...I saw flashes at time but he has a way to go...I knew he looked awfully frail at DE and knew with his frame he would be a better at OLB...then again that is a transition and projection...will take time...and the weed thing scares me...if we do slide down a couple spots in round 2 and select Gregory if available... I'd feel better with selecting him...

Preston Smith is quick yet very strong for a DE, he excels at shedding the block and putting himself in position...something we direly need...We have an awfully slow Dline...However we have a ton of players there right now...

All I know is I don't want a QB in round 2 as I feel none are worthy...

I'm a huge Tevin Coleman fan...however I think the pressing needs at OLB,TE,WR...Would love to trade Phil Taylor to a 4-3 team to get a mid round pick

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Strong
DGB
Williams
Devin Smith
Harold
Preston Smith
Duke Johnson
Henry Anderson

All of those guys would be excellent 2nd/3rd round picks.


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I'd like max williams in the second or Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama in the third.


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These are the guys I'm interested in for tomorrow, roughly in order. If we could come away with two of those top 10 or so guys I'd be a very happy camper.

WR Dorial Green-Beckham
DE Carl Davis
WR Devin Smith
TE Maxx Williams
TE Clive Walford
OLB Randy Gregory
RT TJ Clemmings
DE Xavier Cooper
WR Rashad Greene
ILB Paul Dawson
OLB Nate Orchard
DE Henry Anderson
WR Jaelen Strong
OLB Lorenzo Mauldin
RB Tevin Coleman
WR Sammie Coates
OLB Danielle Hunter
RB Duke Johnson
ILB Bernardrick McKinney
TE Nick O'Leary
WR Tony Lippett
WR Josh Harper
S Anthony Jefferson
WR Justin Hardy

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Not an Eli Harold fan steve?

I think pretty much all of us would agree that Devin Smith would be an excellent pick and fit in perfectly in the Browns offense.


you had a good run Hank.
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Not particularly, no... I watched three or four full Virginia games this year and actually came away liking Valles better, but neither of the guys are Day 2 guys to me.

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at the 43rd pick, probably Jaelen Strong, Maxx Williams or Denzel Perryman.


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You have to go Strong or Williams here IMHO. If they are there.


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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Who do you want?
I am thinking Dorial Green-Beckham or Maxx Williams, I want both lol


God save us.

Man Mourg, have we ever been this far apart in a draft?

That 1st round was a gutless effort of "not to lose" drafting after the fiasco he put up last season. So this year Farmer does a 180 and hides behind consensus and picks players with a high floor, but low ceiling. That's the draft of a man knowing he can't afford another total bust.

Well, we all know what happens when you play not to lose and the same will happen to Farmer. Shelton will be in a rotation, since he doesn't have the stamina and pass rush skills for three downs and Erving will be on the bench if no one gets injured. Guess how that will look like, lol. People complain about Taylor, but at least Taylor flashed talent.

Shelton is a carbon copy of Hughes. There I said it. Gives effort, will get better and be a decent player, but NOT a difference maker.

Oh and Erving, a project OL that doesn't look totally lost at all spots but hasn't mastered any yet. Has no clue of schemes in front of him playing C, complete project there. You can see numerous blitzers up the gut come in untouched on tape. Lack of experience is showing. Of course this experience will come at the Browns expense yet again and in bunches of losses, be prepared for a gigantic downgrade from Mack. And what part of you don't draft C in round one didn't you get Ray? It already got two of your predecessors fired, lol

You'll be next, rest assured, after that scared 1st round

As for day 2. RB will probably be the best value at 43, but Ray probably overrated the two minions he brought in last draft as most on here do

BPA is Ronald Darby, but that would be admitting mistake with Gilbert, so it won't happen.

Rashad Greene is the best WR left, Mauldin the best OLB

Common Ray, at least one lucky punch


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Not a "splashy" 1st round, but fundamentally sound. 2nd round possibly Orchard, Harold, or a WR/TE. 3rd round I'm expecting a QB...


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Here comes the off field issue problem child's. Of the group I still like Collins. I'll take a chance on Beckham if he's there but he'll probably be gone.


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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
Who do you want?
I am thinking Dorial Green-Beckham or Maxx Williams, I want both lol


Gregory and DG-B are by far the two best Football players in this draft. Do we take the drug risk? Which one would be safer.

I like Williams a lot.

My favorite 2nd round pick was taken in the first LB Stephon Anthony.

I was pimping La'el Collins at 19 for most the pre-draft of course that was before the murder thing. This would be a complete travesty obviously for the young lady but also for Collins if he had nothing to do with this and he is questioned for just INFO.

The best safety in the draft is still on the board. Kid from Alabama.

I'm good with anyone they pick except for a QB.

I've course I just sealed the fate of that pick rolleyes


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Kinda hoping it's gonna be the RB Coleman. But I think we need a rush LB more.


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Jaleen Strong or Maxx Williams. We need offensive targets to help our below avg qbs.

Passed on DeVante Parker, we best get the best WR that isn't that DGB kid, we have Josh Gordon already. Need someone who values the game/opportunity more than trouble and drugs, etc.

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Some Round 2 targets:
Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia
Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State
Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota
Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor
Carl Davis, DE, Iowa

Some Round 3 targets:
Chris Conley, WR, Georgia
Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
Xavier Cooper, DE, Washington State
Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon
Sammie Coates, WR, Auburn
Za'Darius Smith, OLB, Kentucky

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I'd love to see DGB, I think he's worth the risk at this point in the draft, Maxx, or Jalen Strong. Out of the three I'm really hoping for Maxx Williams, doesn't do anything exceptionally well but does a lot of great things at the TE position. If we can come away with 3 starters from rounds 1-2 that is a great start to the draft.

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Maxx Williams
Jaelen Strong
Landon Collins
Randy Gregory
Devin Smith
Nate Orchard
TJ Clemmings
Bernardrick McKinney
Erik Kendricks


Give me one please


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We need a WR and an ILB on day 2 ...


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I would say more like a WR and OLB grin


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Still want zero part of Doriel Green-Beckham.

Guy has had one too many off the field, drug related issues and he pushed a woman down the stairs. One of his college coaches also told an NFL scout that he has the lowest football I.Q. he's ever seen despite being such a game changer with the ball in his hands.

Personally.

I want Jaelen Strong or Maxx Williams with the pick at #43.

If they're both gone, I wouldn't mind Clive Walford the TE out of Miami, or even Denzel Perryman the ILB out of Miami if he's on the board.

Either way, I just hope the pick makes sense.

Edge pass rusher, wide receiver, or tight end.

I don't see ILB as one of our bigger needs as we have Dansby, Robertson and Kirksey, but I won't complain if we take one so long as it's Perryman or that ILB out of Mississippi State (can't remember his name right now).



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One of these for round two

L. Collins, S
D. Smith, WR
J. Strong, WR
R. Gregory, DE
C. Davis, DE

I'd wait for Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware. Gonna be the diamond in the rough this draft, IMO

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I would love for Devin Smith to fall to the Browns at #43 but I don't know who is ahead of them. I would take Perryman over Williams to help in the run game. Please don't use a 2nd on a TE or QB.


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DG-B Football IQ didn't know about that. If so off my list.

Perriman can be a good pick. As long as he is fast with equipment on. Cause we got a Space eater now in the middle - speed will become a big asset - Why Kirksey might become a stud this season.

Lets face it...we don't have really any URGENT NEEDS out there from this point on its about a possible upgrade.
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Jay Ajayi is my dark horse pick in round two for Farmer.
I think I'd prefer Jaelen Strong if he is still there.
Maybe take the risk on Randy Gregory.


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Lets face it...we don't have really any URGENT NEEDS out there from this point on its about a possible upgrade.
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When was the last time we was able to say that (excluding Qb obviously?)

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I am not sure why you guys are getting excited about 2nd round WRs that are available. Farmer is not drafting a WR in round 2.

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I wouldn't call anything an URGENT need except maybe adding another edge rusher. If we can find another good pass rusher to stick across from Paul Kruger I think that puts our defense over the top. I'm not sure whose left in the pass rush department other than maybe Randy Gregory, and with his drug issue he's a big gamble.

Landon Collins is interesting. Gives us three very good safetys. He's also a good insurance policy for Whitner (age) and or Gipson if they can't re-sign him.

Do we run more of a hybrid defense with three safetys? I've seen New England and New Orleans do that.

Unless the pick at #43 just makes zero sense, and appears to be a reach, I'm okay with a lot of different plays. My heart wants Jaelen Strong though. Really like that kid. thumbsup



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Tight end says hi.

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Reality of it is, if Flip's offense has a solid spot / need for a TE, Maxx Williams in the second I'd be okay with!

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I wonder why a lot of people think we need ILB so bad for round 2...We have 3 capable ILBs with Dansby, Robertson, and Kirksey...I know Dansby is long in the tooth, but I think we can draft an ILB in round 6 and be ok...Or still sign one away that's left as a free agent...I guess this is why we all have opinions... And to counter my opinion I guess the same can be said for us (including myself) whom want a WR in round 2...When we have Bowe, Hartline, Hawk, Gabriel, Benji...That aside...

It should really be OLB as we only have Kruger, Mingo, Solomon, and ? ...

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I'm hoping for Jaelen Strong at 43. Farmer made safe picks in round one. In a draft like this, we need to take advantage of the depth of WRs so let's get a top one now and a developmental one later.

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