DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2015 NFL Season The NFL Draft 2015 Browns pick Danny Shelton with 12th pick

J/C .... I do not want to see Shelton in all orange. lol

One thing I found interesting .. and didn't notice until they showed our picks back to back .... both Shelton and Irvin wore the same color clothes to the draft. (I would say suits .... but Shelton wore his traditional garb instead of a suit) Maybe Farmer was concerned about them being color coordinated, and that's why he chose Erving?

wow, I think they're an option team, too.

I think it's hilarious that you say Shelton gets dominated 1 on 1, which isn't true *just watch any of his games against Hawaii, Arizona or Oregon* and then say we should have drafted Brown, who was hilariously overrated.

What makes you people even sure that Mack will be back to his All-Pro self in 2015? Have you been following his rehab? Do you think he will be the same C he was before this gruesome injury? Then,it looks very strongly that he will be leaving the building regardless in 2016.

I have high hopes for him. He is already strong as an ox. Wait till he has two seasons of NFL caliber training and he will be deadly. He already has very good instincts but he will need a lot of polish IMHO. Still, I love his motor and think he will be a great player for us in the long term.

He broke his leg. He didn't destroy his leg, he didn't tear up ligaments, he broke it.

Rumor has it that he did tear ligaments and that is why his rehab is taking so long.

LOL, I meant to post the Mack injury in the Erving thread...geesh..Long night

Weren't you the guy that pimped Blaine Gabbert?

Everyone makes mistakes. Pretty much all of us thought that Trent Richardson was the next Adrian Peterson.

You know... you're pretty much the only person I've seen on any of the message boards I post on say he's overrated.

Danny Shelton was the only player in the NCAA to be on both the All American and All Academic teams.

Tough, physical, smart, leader, energetic. Get him in an NFL training room and watch him just destroy teams.

I'd agree with you.

Either I'm right and everyone is wrong or I'm just really missing something on Brown. Because for the life of me, I don't see much in him. Total JAG.

I will say, what I do really love is his endurance and his enthusiasm. I think he has tons of strength but needs to learn to use it better. Fortunately we have one of the best DL coaches in the NFL in Anthony Weaver. Hope he sees what's wrong with him functionally and can get it fixed.

Thats my point.

I may not 100% agree with both picks made tonight, but for someone to act like they know exactly how a prospects career is going to go is ridiculous..

Especially when theyre track record isnt as perfect as they'd like people to assume.

Just like Djangobrown saying Shelton isn't a first round prospect, I haven't seen that anywhere else.

I am not overly excited about the Shelton pick, but I like it a lot more than the Irving pick.

Kyrie could be a Hall of Famer some day!

Meh... He could be very good after NFL strength conditioning and technique are applied. IMO he's a wait and see guy.

You scouted him?? LMAO get over yourself

I liked the pick but the dude needs to lose the dress......lol

Every Draft Grade I've seen has the Shelton Pick as an A.
Every Talking Head says he's a great fit/pick for the Browns at #12.
Every article I've seen lauds his drive, ability, strength, intelligence and fire. Say he coaches up well and rarely makes the same mistake twice.
But hey I guess they didn't 'Scout' him as deeply as some....

We need to stop the run.... he appears to be a valuable tool in getting that done.

here is what I see of Shelton on this video:

the big man gets stood up and pushed back a few yards and makes a play. Wasn't this what everyone complained about with DQ?

The only time he makes a play in the backfield is when he doesn't have someone blocking him because the guard is pulling.

This guy plays like a DE vs a NT.

not Jim Brown

LOL Just clicking here but:

Take guys that build the trenches: Some people complain
Don't take guys that build the Trenches: Some people complain
Don't trade up to get a QB: some people complain
Trade up to get a QB: Some people complain
Trade to get a veteran QB: some people complain
Don't trade to get a Vet QB: some people complain

One thing I know for sure, when it comes to sports, you can't please everyone. One thing we can do is sit back and see how it plays out.

But then, some would complain about having to sit back after waiting since 1999 for something play out in a positive manner. As if what the FO did in 1999 has anything to do with this owner and FO.

Oh well, I'm just complaining to complain I guess

I like it. A zip code. Should help the 32 ranking because there is no 33. Just attracting double teams should help. Good motor.

Welcome to the Browns, big fella!

How about we watch some, hmm?

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/danny-shelton-vs-oregon-2014/

I like his tenacity, but he wins a lot on (second) effort and not much at the point. While that's very nice to see and better than being a lazy player, it doesn't translate to the NFL because he'll face more players with the same high effort. Proof for that is that almost half his TFL and sack stats came against Eastern Washington, Georgia State and Hawaii. His numbers take a notable dive vs better, closer to NFL talent, PAC12 competition...and not only his numbers:

Watch the untouched, up the gut TD at 1:50min, he gets EASILY blocked away 1on1 at the line, opening a big hole for the TD. While others behind him didn't do their job either, the TD run began right there with him. This guy is going to hold up our middle in a 3-4....long way to go folks.

Next critical play at 2:35 on 3rd and 1, that's way too easy, sorry.

At 3min: RB runs right by him up the gut. Doesn't even get a hand on him to slow him down. Same thing the very next play. While he doesn't give up ground this time, he still doesn't do his job, which is to fill the gap and slow the runner. The RB runs just by him again for an easy 13yds...and he makes it 3 in a row, next play, he loses balance and falls to the ground, easily blocked. He's either exhausted or just not very good, another 12yds on 1st down right up the middle, running right at him

He follows that up with some much better plays inside the 10, after failing twice to run through the middle, Oregon gooes outside for a TD. He needs more of those plays.

Next series, he starts off good on 1st and 2nd down, then fails on 3rd and 5. The runner gets a 1st running right over LG, big hole, 1st down.

Next play another easy 1st down run up the gut, right past him...again

That's half the game now and I've already seen way too many plays where he gets owned....and that's mostly 1on1 mind you.

Well, only a few players I'd have been happy to OK with if we didn't land one of the big three WRs, and Shelton one of them! Pretty happy, he's a day one plug and plug impact maker at nose. The rotation of Phil and Danny is and should be entertaining. Alot of meat there in the middle!

I was in the movie theater seeing The Avengers during the Browns first pick and I avoided looking at my phone the entire time. I got out to the truck and was THRILLED to see we stayed put and drafted Shelton.

He fills an immediate need and I'm sure could play any position on a 3-4 defensive line. Phil Taylor has been injury prone and is a free agent after this year, so having Shelton as an insurance policy is huge. Hopefully with a healthy line, and the addition of Randy Starks our defensive line will finally be able to stop the run.

Between him and Erving I give Farmer an A+

I think you got it about right Tab.

If I were the Browns I wouldn't take a WR at the top of the draft either. Whats the point when there isn't anyone to throw them the ball anyhow, and I don't mean that in a smart assed way either. Its JustTheHumbleTruth.

I was sitting there last night going who do they take Parker is on the board and he isn't going to make it to 19 and Shelton so who do the Browns take I asked myself??? Then it hit me if Farmer is smart he takes Shelton at least he can help on defense a cat like Parker can't help if their isn't anyone to throw him the ball. Then as I talked to myself I thought why would you take a WR in any draft unless he was the final piece? What I mean by that is these guys are a dime a dozen they really are and every year there are more of them. Last year was a great year for WR's and this year was a great year for WR's and next year will be a great year for WR's again so why would you. That and the fact that good receivers are found in every round of the draft there is no rush on the Browns part to get that player. I wished we had taken an edge rusher I really liked Ray, those are the rare guys not WR's.

I like that they are planning for the eventual lose of Mack I see no way he will be a Brown beyond this season.... And as you say they will have just one pick we don;t want to have to do something so planning ahead is good IMO.

There would be no way I could have ignored yesterday lol. Too much suspense and what have you to not tune in!

All that suspense, and then nothing happened. It was pick after pick, no major trades or swaps or even hints of things happening. Actually was a bit of a dud after all the excessive hype.

I have zero qualms about Shelton's endurance or conditioning. The guy probably played 33% - 50% above-median percentage of snaps for an interior lineman in college football... that's how he accumulated those eye-popping stats. My issue is he too often doesn't play as strong as he actually is. I hope Weaver knows what is wrong with him and how to fix it, because he does have a ton of potential, I just think if he doesn't improve significantly it could be a real problem. JMO.

There are DT's I liked better now, but Shelton could work out. If he can play with more consistent leverage and technique, he can be a force. As long as kava isn't on the NFL's banned substance list I think we're good. Could be our Casey Hampton.

A couple people have put endurance as an issue for this kid but he played more snaps than any DT out there and he gets stronger as the game goes on, not weaker. At the start of a game, he seems to always give up a couple quick hit runs but then after that, its on. I do not get the criticism of this kid. He was a perfect fit for this defense and 3rd and short, Big phil, Shelton and Kitchen out there and Kitchen is the runt of the bunch lol.

FYI, that kava comment made me laugh! Heck, that outfit he was wearing could be illegal hahahaha! It's weird seeing a 340 pounder in a dress ordeal haha.

I think worst case scenario is that Shelton becomes Casey Hampton.

Guy has Shaun Rodgers with a brain like talent if he improves.