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I can't tell you all the feelings I felt before and after knowing/not knowing that the Titans didn't agree to any trades and just scooped the player themselves.

So nervous with giving picks away to move up, or giving them away for broken knees and when Eisen said officially that the pick was in and of Tennessee selection, oh so happy!

I feel Chip now regrets his move involving Bradford, I would bet heavily Kelly had no intention of keeping him, but, now it appears he has no choice. Bradford, Sanchez and Tebow... nothing I would go into the season with tons of confidence with. Nothing at all and mark my words, all you Bradford pimps will be happy when you're tuning into Espn highlights and watch Sam tear his knee up again for the third and final time.

Chip Kelly took control of that ship, and I think he was trying to outsmart everyone. He now has to drive that ship and if it sinks he will probably be gone soon.

I think he watched Draft Day too many times and thought it worked like that.

If only the Titans' GM was eating pancakes ...

jc...

Does anyone ever wonder if we had had hired Kelly how him and Banner would have coexisted? Kelly appears to be the ultimate control freak and I'm smarter than everyone guy. Banner also had a huge ego and liked the control. At the time, I was bummed we didn't get Kelly, but I don't think it would have worked.

I like where we're at now. We'll see how it works out, but our staff seems the most cohesive that it has ever been.

I'm thinking they'd either be best friends or we'd be reading a story in the Plain Dealer that there was a murder in Berea LOL

No Hoyer check
No Mariotta check
No Bradford check

Johnny's career being resurrected check lol

What was that again?

Maybe the Titans will take a 4th round pick for Mettenberger

After all, they only used a 6th rounder on him last year and just drafted his replacement.

It may make you feel good knowing we have no other option but it makes me think that 2-14 is coming down the pike. Will see but without any other option it concerns me that we have NO other choice but to play him, and based on his performance last season its not something I look forward too.

I know you were high on the guy, he is about to get his shot if he can't beat out McCown then I would cut him and be done with it.

Pitt when Bradford has the Eagles in the PO next year, and JF has us lined up for the 1st pick in the draft, lets talk about it OK?

Unless Bradford gets hurt in training camp and manages to make it back before the season ends, I don't see that happening. Those who refuse to learn from history are bound to repeat their mistakes.

And BTW- I'd be happy to take the #1 pick in next years draft over a QB who can't seem to stay healthy for a season.

Geez BTTB, I don't know anyone that feels happy about us having no other option.

Dude, it's really not you against the world.It's just that Bradford was and remains too big a risk at anything but a low cost.

Please note, nobody but Kelly went for it with Bradford and then there was talk (and that's ALL IT WAS) that Bradford was tradebait. With no apparent takers.

It seems that just about everyone knows that Bradford isn't worth it, everyone but you that is.. Hey, wait, maybe it IS you against the world LOL

Oh boy. LOL

Listening to Jim and Pat on Sirius, they postulated that as Hundley has a similar skillset to Mariota, it makes perfect sense that the Eagles and Browns could still do a deal. The Fat Lady ain't singing yet, bro'...

Let Bradford prove his value in Philly. If his play/health warrant a contract, we'll be players in free agency. We have the money. Looks like we have the best OLine to offer, too.

And if we go 2-14 (I agree, its possible) then we'll be picking on top of the draft. Perhaps getting an elite playmaker to throw in the mix.

Let's face it, its already about 2016. I'm just hoping Manziel/McCown aren't so awful that Haslam comes out swinging his axe again!

This is the real key to everything this year. Our only hope for a decent record is Manziel, and those odds appear to be long. Haslam has to let cooler heads prevail and let Pettine and Farmer continue with their plan, even if we go 2-14.

no doubt in my mind he want to trade up but i think he really likes bradford. i also think that first we offerd was still there for bradford but he wants to be sure he has a QB this year. jmo

Yeah we will see....

On a side note I'm surprised nobody had anything to say about Gurley and the Rams don't you find that pick odd? Fisher is a a nut job....

I wonder why anyone would blow a pick on damaged goods right?

Not for nothin.... but the play when Manziel got hurt was a designed run. Not sure what he was supposed to learn from that... when the coach calls a QB sweep, change the play?

Not for nothin.... but the play when Manziel got hurt was a pass play and no one touched him.

I doubt if Gurley had torn the same ACL twice in two years and only played half of his college games, we'd be having that part of this discussion.

Well, it's really not even worth discussing.

I agree as long as Farmer refrains from play calling and coaches meetings...

It was weird watching Pet and Farmer together. Pet seems so relaxed and in control while Farmer looks like yeah sure and that he will jump out of his chair at any second. I like passion as long as its well directed I think Farmer just might make it. But while I have no way to know I think there has been a power shift in Berea in favor of Pet and I don't think Farmer loves it..

Oh and I think Flip will end up being a casualty come the end of this season.... And it won't be fair...I don't think....

John himself said he was hurt a play or 2 earlier.

Really the coach that threw in the towel on his QB after he tore he ACL for the 2nd straight time drafts a RB that is coming off ACL surgery and you don't think its worth talking about... Otta as Tab says............

I'm not even close to giving up on 2015 yet..

Brown to the Bone, if you haven't iggied me and read this, I am sure Bradford is still in play. As another poster said, "The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet."
If we can get Bradford on the cheap now, I'm all for it. Go slow with him this year and franchise his a$$ next year. JMHO.

Why?

Text Gate?

Sitting in on coaches meetings?

Running off our best coach?

Gilbert?

Manziel?

The media circus?

I like where we're at now. Not where we were at last year.

We seem more in sync.

Manziel and Gilbert both seem to be in better places.

We disagree on our best coach last year, that is what it is. I see it as addition by subtraction, you clearly don't. That's okay.

There isn't the media circus this year around us specifically. It's the NFL, there is media everywhere.

Actually, the quote was "The Fat Lady ain't singing yet..."

Tebow will be start for the Eagles before the season is over

#TEBOWTIME!

Johnny should never be in a designed run. He is great when he improvises if the play breaks down but designed runs he looked retarded.

I agree with that.

The way I look at Manziel right now is this:

He should be able to run our offense, or he should not be on the field. Now I am not saying that we should shut down his improvisational skills, because that is part of who he is, but we should give him the support of a strongly structured offense, rather than allowing him to play helter skelter.

I think the biggest issue with JFF last year is instead of just plugging him into the same offense they ran all year, they tried to change it in a week for him...so noone was on the same page. I think he would have had more success just running the offense hoyer was running.

I agree with this 100%. Great point.

Just so you know dude I have never been scared to be the loan wolf. I was the lone wolf on Richardson a few years back, turns out I was right and the vast majority were not just wrong but dead wrong. I was all over Pig Face as well, turns out I was right in fact dead right.

And here is another kicker for you (Tab can verify and Vers too) I said we should dump the bum (Richardson), and a week later he was gone, and if you thought people were crying before they dumped him you should have heard them after they dumped him. Who was right me or the crowd. I like posters that have an original thought, aping someone else is of little to no value.

I maintain that Bradford would have gotten us to the PO. As I see it (again being the lone wolf) this team will be lucky if they win 2 games...

Let me give you a little more info.

1st ACL surgery 90% chance of full recovery. 2nd ACL surgery 75% chance of full recovery. With Bradford 75% chance we make the PO without Bradford less then 1% chance we make the PO's with what we got.


Will see in a few months how this all sorts itself out and I could be wrong but I like my odds, and to think all so we don't spend a 1st for a chance to win, seems stupid to me that anyone would pass up the CHANCE to win in favor of losing, I guess now I understand why you and others are so happy. I want to win and I'm willing to take a chance to do just that. I don't expect others to understand that becuase they are already in their happy place.

Johnny's quickness is more about buying time to throw downfield. We do't want him doing designed runs. He probably plays faster than that combine 40 time, but what really sets him apart is being quick in a small area.
I guess I kept hoping some other option would develop at QB, but it looks like we are going in with Josh and Johnny, or Johnny and Josh. And really, why not? If Johnny is sober and rededicated, he might just be the guy we hoped he could be.

Nice chest thumping and all, but I notice you didn't seem to point to any of the scenarios where you were wrong. Or are you saying you never have been?

The Rams are STUPID because they traded him and gave up a chance to WIN, is that what you are saying?

Why would they do that are all teams in need of a QB STUPID for not signing Bradford and have a 75% chance of making the PO and without Bradford less then 1% chance they make the PO's with what they got or is it just the Browns?

Why did no one else trade for him?