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Spiritbro77 #953746 05/01/15 09:02 PM
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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


yeah we really need an edge rusher to improve that NPD... wait a minute... maybe a good NT to push the pocket back to avoid the QB stepping up... wait a minute


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Originally Posted By: clevesteve
These are the guys I'm interested in for tomorrow, roughly in order. If we could come away with two of those top 10 or so guys I'd be a very happy camper.

WR Dorial Green-Beckham
DE Carl Davis
WR Devin Smith
TE Maxx Williams
TE Clive Walford
OLB Randy Gregory
RT TJ Clemmings
DE Xavier Cooper
WR Rashad Greene
ILB Paul Dawson
OLB Nate Orchard
DE Henry Anderson
WR Jaelen Strong
OLB Lorenzo Mauldin
RB Tevin Coleman
WR Sammie Coates
OLB Danielle Hunter
RB Duke Johnson
ILB Bernardrick McKinney
TE Nick O'Leary
WR Tony Lippett
WR Josh Harper
S Anthony Jefferson
WR Justin Hardy

Does #11 make it!!! I thought Nate Orchard was a good pick. Maybe a solid backup for Kruger.

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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


Yeah the no pressure D...just left us to dry on a weekly basis...watching our D the prior years was fun (Horton days) O'Neil showed me why he's a nobody...piss poor performance and teaching imo

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Arizona taking RB here?

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Golden went earlier than many thought

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Originally Posted By: texaslostdawg
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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


yeah we really need an edge rusher to improve that NPD... wait a minute... maybe a good NT to push the pocket back to avoid the QB stepping up... wait a minute


Alright. I'll give them the benifit of the doubt. I CAN expect 45+ sacks this year?


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I don't want a backup for a second round pick


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I think Denver just drafted Chumlee from Pawn Stars

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Run on those tackles...a lot of nice talent still left...Just realized we only got a 4th from the Texans? Damn was hoping two 3rd rounders

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18 and half sacks, hey Dummerville went in the 4th when i was screaming for us to take him lol. would like to see how he got those sacks but I am intrigued. I really dont know much about the kid.

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Originally Posted By: tru_dawgs
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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


Yeah the no pressure D...just left us to dry on a weekly basis...watching our D the prior years was fun (Horton days) O'Neil showed me why he's a nobody...piss poor performance and teaching imo


I really missed Horton last year. I think if he had been brought back for a second season that D would have been SOLID!


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I think Denver just drafted Chumley from Pawn Stars


Lmao that was great

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Third round is fast approaching. Wonder if we go RB there.....


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Haha Gregory? I thought for sure a RB to pair with Darren McFadden

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Originally Posted By: superbowldogg
I don't want a backup for a second round pick


He'll probably start. I would hope anyway.... Why wouldn't he?


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Wow, Cowboys add Gregory to their team after already having added another troubled LB in Hardy. (who is suspended for 10 games


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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


yeah we really need an edge rusher to improve that NPD... wait a minute... maybe a good NT to push the pocket back to avoid the QB stepping up... wait a minute


Alright. I'll give them the benifit of the doubt. I CAN expect 45+ sacks this year?


nah your right... these guys wont have any effect... stupid to even try to get players that did in fact presser the QB, why should they try to address that? we know it wont work.

I would say the team will probably get a total of 15 sacks this year, they should have just kept what they had.


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


Yeah the no pressure D...just left us to dry on a weekly basis...watching our D the prior years was fun (Horton days) O'Neil showed me why he's a nobody...piss poor performance and teaching imo


I really missed Horton last year. I think if he had been brought back for a second season that D would have been SOLID!


There is zero doubt in my mind that Horton would have that D excelling...Heck I think Horton could run O'Neils scheme better than O'Neil can...Defense was a joke all year

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Wow, Cowboys add Gregory to their team after already having added another troubled LB in Hardy. (who is suspended for 10 games


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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


Yeah the no pressure D...just left us to dry on a weekly basis...watching our D the prior years was fun (Horton days) O'Neil showed me why he's a nobody...piss poor performance and teaching imo


I really missed Horton last year. I think if he had been brought back for a second season that D would have been SOLID!


There is zero doubt in my mind that Horton would have that D excelling...Heck I think Horton could run O'Neils scheme better than O'Neil can...Defense was a joke all year


We were one of the top teams against the pass last year, and also had the 3rd most INT in the NFL last year. That was without much pressure. We are going to be a top 10 defense overall this year.


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Wow, Cowboys add Gregory to their team after already having added another troubled LB in Hardy. (who is suspended for 10 games


Hardy is a DE...perhaps you were thinking of McClain the ILB? Another troubled LB...Cowboys are bringing the early 1990s back haha

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I'm hoping we package some of our many 4th and 6th round picks to get a second 3rd round pick. Maybe WR,TE,RB or even QB in 3rd.

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Sorry, meant to say player.

trying to type too many things too quickly and my brain isn't keeping up. crazy rofl


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I'm so glad we didn't take Gregory...this guy needs a fulltime babysitter...meaning he can't control himself or his impulses...that is sad

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Sorry, meant to say player.

trying to type too many things too quickly and my brain isn't keeping up. crazy rofl


Haha no problem... Is it just me or does this draft have more troubled players than the others?

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Originally Posted By: texaslostdawg
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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


yeah we really need an edge rusher to improve that NPD... wait a minute... maybe a good NT to push the pocket back to avoid the QB stepping up... wait a minute


Alright. I'll give them the benifit of the doubt. I CAN expect 45+ sacks this year?


nah your right... these guys wont have any effect... stupid to even try to get players that did in fact presser the QB, why should they try to address that? we know it wont work.

I would say the team will probably get a total of 15 sacks this year, they should have just kept what they had.


Wait a minute. They got a NOSE in the first. You think that guy is going to get 10 sacks? Alrighty then.... we took ONE "pass rusher" and he may or may not start. He'll have to beat out Mingo. Not that it's a difficult chore.... But unless you think he's a 15 sack a year OLB I don't see us killing QB's every week. Hope I'm wrong. Would be NICE to have a defense that gets some pressure. We sure did SUCK BAD at it lst year. Which was surprising since Pettine was SUPPOSED to be big on the pass rush.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Sorry, meant to say player.

trying to type too many things too quickly and my brain isn't keeping up. crazy rofl


now that is funny. thanks needed the laugh. lol


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I can't believe this. We have so many gaping holes in our offense and so far we've drafter 2 defensive linemen and another C. Okay...he can play any where on the line. He offers great protection. For what?!? Who is he protecting when we have nothing behind the line or in the wings? DT? Well...anything or anyone could be an improvement to last years defense.

I just don't get it. Another bonehead draft IMHO.


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Until we get 45+ sacks I will refer to our D as an NPD. Once we excede 45 sacks then I will consider the NPD era to be over. That's not asking too much from a 3-4 D with Pettine as our HC. He's supposed to be a pass rush guy. His 3-4 is supposed to be a pass rush 3-4. We have the secondary to LET the dogs lose and go after the QB. Last year we just didn't.... So we shall see. If we're avg. 2 sacks a game again then it's by DESIGN.


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18.5 sacks, 21 tackles for loss, and 84 total tackles in 2014 for Orchard.


Jarvis Jones had similar stats at Georgia. He now has 2 sacks in 2 seasons in the NFL.

I'd still like to hear from Pettine or Farmer where they intedn to play this guy? My guess is SOLB, which would make him Kruger's backup. My opinion is that he lacks both the physicality and athleticism to play OLB. He's a tweener and there was a reason he was considered a 3rd day guy DESPITE those stats, which are meaningless anyway.

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I can't believe this. We have so many gaping holes in our offense and so far we've drafter 2 defensive linemen and another C. Okay...he can play any where on the line. He offers great protection. For what?!? Who is he protecting when we have nothing behind the line or in the wings? DT? Well...anything or anyone could be an improvement to last years defense.

I just don't get it. Another bonehead draft IMHO.


Without a quarterback and with a rookie offensive coordinator it's not outrageous to try to build the defense as best as possible....


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18.5 sacks, 21 tackles for loss, and 84 total tackles in 2014 for Orchard.


Jarvis Jones had similar stats at Georgia. He now has 2 sacks in 2 seasons in the NFL.

I'd still like to hear from Pettine or Farmer where they intedn to play this guy? My guess is SOLB, which would make him Kruger's backup. My opinion is that he lacks both the physicality and athleticism to play OLB. He's a tweener and there was a reason he was considered a 3rd day guy DESPITE those stats, which are meaningless anyway.

Farmer bought high on hype again


No reason he couldn't beat out Mingo. Or maybe they think they can play him inside? As a thumper ILB? Think Pepper Johnson type? Who knows?


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Is it just me or does this draft have more troubled players than the others?


I'm thinking we just hear about it more now. Can't sweep things under the rug anymore with social media everywhere.


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I can't stand O'Neil as our D coordinator...I think that's one of our big issues

Also Tevin Coleman is available still


Not a fan of the NPD? smile


yeah we really need an edge rusher to improve that NPD... wait a minute... maybe a good NT to push the pocket back to avoid the QB stepping up... wait a minute


Alright. I'll give them the benifit of the doubt. I CAN expect 45+ sacks this year?


nah your right... these guys wont have any effect... stupid to even try to get players that did in fact presser the QB, why should they try to address that? we know it wont work.

I would say the team will probably get a total of 15 sacks this year, they should have just kept what they had.


Wait a minute. They got a NOSE in the first. You think that guy is going to get 10 sacks? Alrighty then.... we took ONE "pass rusher" and he may or may not start. He'll have to beat out Mingo. Not that it's a difficult chore.... But unless you think he's a 15 sack a year OLB I don't see us killing QB's every week. Hope I'm wrong. Would be NICE to have a defense that gets some pressure. We sure did SUCK BAD at it lst year. Which was surprising since Pettine was SUPPOSED to be big on the pass rush.


Right again... a NT that pushes the pocket back and does allow the QB to step up serves no purpose...


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What does everyone think of the Bengals draft so far?

Two Tackles seems strange to me.


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Their 2 starting OT's have contracts coming up and are threatening to hold out or walk ...Kind of like our situation with Mack ...

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She wants what's best for her son, and that's not Cleveland. I'll guess that most prospects would prefer Miami over Cleveland. This team has been a joke for a long time, her comment was true.

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We are drafting to replace so we can be who we are.....

Sheldon = Taylor-Rube
Erving = Mack/ Swartz we need one more O Linemen
Orchard = Sheard

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