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Yeah, but I thought they were both pretty good, and they'd want to try to re-sign them. I'd understand taking a couple tackles in the draft, but first two rounds? They must think Whitworth is in decline and are tired of dealing with Smith's weight struggle.
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She wants what's best for her son, and that's not Cleveland. I'll guess that most prospects would prefer Miami over Cleveland. This team has been a joke for a long time, her comment was true. Yes but you cant be dumb enough to say it
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Wow , you left yourself wide open there
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The fact that you have to explain how a NT like Shelton can produce more team sacks is embarrassing and shows a lack of football knowledge from fans who are so willing to criticize what they don't understand. It's sad to see on a regular basis on these boards.
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There goes another TE and WR ...
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I can't believe this. We have so many gaping holes in our offense and so far we've drafter 2 defensive linemen and another C. Okay...he can play any where on the line. He offers great protection. For what?!? Who is he protecting when we have nothing behind the line or in the wings? DT? Well...anything or anyone could be an improvement to last years defense.
I just don't get it. Another bonehead draft IMHO. Oh I disagree. I think that building the defense is a great way to go. If you can stop the other team from scoring, you can do like the Bills did last year and win 9 games, even with a subpar QB. I want a great defense, and I think that we added 2 pieces to help improve the defense a great deal. Strong is now off the board, for those who want to jump.
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Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama - I hope he is our round 3 pick
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Strong Lockett and Walford are gone ...
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She wants what's best for her son, and that's not Cleveland. I'll guess that most prospects would prefer Miami over Cleveland. This team has been a joke for a long time, her comment was true. Yes but you cant be dumb enough to say it I don't think it's dumb, it really doesn't matter at this point since he's now a Dolphin. Her words affect nothing.
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18.5 sacks, 21 tackles for loss, and 84 total tackles in 2014 for Orchard. Jarvis Jones had similar stats at Georgia. He now has 2 sacks in 2 seasons in the NFL. I'd still like to hear from Pettine or Farmer where they intedn to play this guy? My guess is SOLB, which would make him Kruger's backup. My opinion is that he lacks both the physicality and athleticism to play OLB. He's a tweener and there was a reason he was considered a 3rd day guy DESPITE those stats, which are meaningless anyway. Farmer bought high on hype again Not every player who has similar stats to another player is the same player. Orchard is a fer better pass rusher, with more moves and ability in that regard. He may never be a 3 down OLB, but he is going to get after the QB on passing downs. I like the pick, and I think that he fits the Browns defense.
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She wants what's best for her son, and that's not Cleveland. I'll guess that most prospects would prefer Miami over Cleveland. This team has been a joke for a long time, her comment was true. Yes but you cant be dumb enough to say it I don't think it's dumb, it really doesn't matter at this point since he's now a Dolphin. Her words affect nothing. I agree. I wouldn't WANT to play for Cleveland either. Miami wasn't much better though. Either way, she needs to shut up.
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She wants what's best for her son, and that's not Cleveland. I'll guess that most prospects would prefer Miami over Cleveland. This team has been a joke for a long time, her comment was true. Yes but you cant be dumb enough to say it Why not? Wasn't the first person to say that this draft. Heard that on Total Access the other day. Forget the player but he said straight up, he didn't care where he went as long as it wasn't Cleveland.
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The fact that you have to explain how a NT like Shelton can produce more team sacks is embarrassing and shows a lack of football knowledge from fans who are so willing to criticize what they don't understand. It's sad to see on a regular basis on these boards. We already had THREE on the roster. So Shelton better be a LOT better than ANYONE we've had at the nose EVER. He better change the way we look at the NT position. In the meantime we might as well cut Taylor and Hughes. They are useless to us now. We just replaced them. Of course we don't HAVE a DE to bookend with Bryant. Once again we will be forced to play a defensive tackle out of position. We will get nothing from that positoon but a body to eat up a block. Period. But hey, we have the best NT in all the land. Or so YOU say. I have yet to see the massive greatness of Shelton. He better be this game changer you say he is. He better make everyone else a LOT better. Because we sure as hell don't have a real DE to place next to him. We replaced a position we already had and blew off a position we have NO ONE at.
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The fact that you have to explain how a NT like Shelton can produce more team sacks is embarrassing and shows a lack of football knowledge from fans who are so willing to criticize what they don't understand. It's sad to see on a regular basis on these boards. We already had THREE on the roster. So Shelton better be a LOT better than ANYONE we've had at the nose EVER. He better change the way we look at the NT position. In the meantime we might as well cut Taylor and Hughes. They are useless to us now. We just replaced them. Of course we don't HAVE a DE to bookend with Bryant. Once again we will be forced to play a defensive tackle out of position. We will get nothing from that positoon but a body to eat up a block. Period. But hey, we have the best NT in all the land. Or so YOU say. I have yet to see the massive greatness of Shelton. He better be this game changer you say he is. He better make everyone else a LOT better. Because we sure as hell don't have a real DE to place next to him. We replaced a position we already had and blew off a position we have NO ONE at. That's the idea, Shelton will be that difference maker. We can only wait and see, but that's why he was taken at #12.
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I think the browns just got shut out with the Conley pick.
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I would love it if we pick Justin Hardy ...
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The fact that you have to explain how a NT like Shelton can produce more team sacks is embarrassing and shows a lack of football knowledge from fans who are so willing to criticize what they don't understand. It's sad to see on a regular basis on these boards. We already had THREE on the roster. So Shelton better be a LOT better than ANYONE we've had at the nose EVER. He better change the way we look at the NT position. In the meantime we might as well cut Taylor and Hughes. They are useless to us now. We just replaced them. Of course we don't HAVE a DE to bookend with Bryant. Once again we will be forced to play a defensive tackle out of position. We will get nothing from that positoon but a body to eat up a block. Period. But hey, we have the best NT in all the land. Or so YOU say. I have yet to see the massive greatness of Shelton. He better be this game changer you say he is. He better make everyone else a LOT better. Because we sure as hell don't have a real DE to place next to him. We replaced a position we already had and blew off a position we have NO ONE at. Hughes will play end not nt...that's were he played last year before getting hurt
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We already had THREE on the roster. So Shelton better be a LOT better than ANYONE we've had at the nose EVER. He better change the way we look at the NT position. In the meantime we might as well cut Taylor and Hughes. They are useless to us now. We just replaced them. Of course we don't HAVE a DE to bookend with Bryant. Once again we will be forced to play a defensive tackle out of position. We will get nothing from that positoon but a body to eat up a block. Period. But hey, we have the best NT in all the land. Or so YOU say. I have yet to see the massive greatness of Shelton. He better be this game changer you say he is. He better make everyone else a LOT better. Because we sure as hell don't have a real DE to place next to him. We replaced a position we already had and blew off a position we have NO ONE at.
Hughes is our SSDE, Shelton and Taylor will keep each other fresh. Bulked up our Goalline package.
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There is a Round 3 thread. just sayin 
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