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http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2015-nfl-undrafted-free-agentsCleveland Browns VJ Fehoko LB Texas Tech Kyle Prater WR Northwestern Eric Patterson CB Ball State Kennenth Penny DB UNLV De’Ante Saunders CB Tennessee State London Feichter SAF Purdue Marvin Kloss K South Florida (Tryout) Steven Gurolla OL Arizona (Tryout) Joe Kaleta DL Coastal Carolina (Tryout) Kevin Haplea TE Florida State (Tryout) Kevonte Martin-Manley (Tryout) Braylon Heard RB Kentucky (Tryout) Travis Lee CB Miles College (Tryout)
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Cleveland Browns VJ Fehoko LB Texas Tech Kyle Prater WR Northwestern Eric Patterson CB Ball State Kennenth Penny DB UNLV De’Ante Saunders CB Tennessee State London Feichter SAF Purdue Marvin Kloss K South Florida (Tryout) Steven Gurolla OL Arizona (Tryout) Joe Kaleta DL Coastal Carolina (Tryout) Kevin Haplea TE Florida State (Tryout) Kevonte Martin-Manley (Tryout) Braylon Heard RB Kentucky (Tryout) Travis Lee CB Miles College (Tryout) http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2015-nfl-undrafted-free-agents
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Not as intrigued by Prater after watching his highlights. Still a practice squad candidate. Needs to improve his lower body. Almost no YAC. Does have Redzone Jumpball potential.
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Along with Travis Lee, the Browns have also signed RB Mark Weisman Iowa Who is listed as a FB by cbs, btw Yes, he has the size at 6' 240lbs, but he led the Hawkeyes in rushing the past three years, so he isn't a typical FB, he can run...goal line back!! It was mis-reported earlier, Weisman actually signed with the Bengals...
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Wouldn't mind trying out bamas returner Christian Jones out...I remember against Vtech he was electric (had a kickoff, punt return and receiving TD) he was disappointing last year though
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Browns UFA Signings as reported on Bleacher Report:
David Kruger DT Utah
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Dominique Croom WR Central Arkansas Last year's. Never mind, Al;ready noted.  Anyway, Oregon State's Dylan Wynn, defensive end: Cleveland Browns http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index....t_story_package(Listed at the bottom of the article)
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Halliday is better than Shaw. He can throw the ball more than three yards without it being taken away by a small gust of wind.
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Didn't we check out Braxton Cave last year? IIRC, he was in the 2014 draft or am I mistaken...
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Collins will not sign with any team...he said so and probably why nobody drafted him (he stated this after the first round was over) he won't sign a UDFA he's going to take the year off and then re-submit in the 2016 draft.
If he is cleared of all wrong doing - the NFL did him wrong for not letting him take his name out of the draft and re-enter in the Supplemental.
Shame.
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I hope we have established a connection with Collins, in case he is cleared. Correct me if I'm wrong,(as if I have to ask LOL) But didn't Collins (thru his agent) say that he won't sign a contract if drafted after Round 2? That he'd just go into the draft next year? And if I'm correct, wouldn't that mean that he wouldn't sign as an UDFA? I'm thinking you can take him off the list of possibles!
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Collins will not sign with any team...he said so and probably why nobody drafted him (he stated this after the first round was over) he won't sign a UDFA he's going to take the year off and then re-submit in the 2016 draft.
If he is cleared of all wrong doing - the NFL did him wrong for not letting him take his name out of the draft and re-enter in the Supplemental.
Shame. Yes, he made that statement, however, it has since been established that he is not eligible for the 2016 Draft. Weird twist to the rules, had he been chosen in the draft, that team has one year to hold on to his rights, while the player can refuse to sign a contract, then if after the year, if he hasn't signed, he the team will lose the rights and the player can re-submit for the following year draft. However, if he is not drafted, he becomes a free agent, thus deeming him ineligible for any future drafts. He is free to sign with any team. So by opening his big mouth HE, HIMSELF, cost his contract money... For the record, the NFL didn't do any of this..If you make yourself eligible, you are eligible. The rules are in place so players don't get a week from the draft, then decide to pull their name when it becomes apparent they are going to go lower than they had hoped when they declared. If the rules weren't in place, players would simply declare, feel out the process and go back to college, costing teams tons of money and irreplaceable time researching players that won't even be available. It isn't there, just in case the one in a million (maybe lower) that one of the eligible players ex girlfriends gets murdered and that player had nothing to do with it..Which no one even knows is true yet and we are a day after the draft ended... Bad timing? Absolutely, the NFL or Baton Rouge Police Departments fault? Absolutely not... Bad luck for Collins if he had nothing to do with it as it seems... Really good luck for whomever would have drafted him if it turns out the other way..
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I am ignorant of the new rules. If he is a murderer...I have no words for him (not good ones).
But if he is not...It is one law suit I think would be deserved to win. Betcha he'll be allowed in the 2016 draft  of course see you in a year on that one...lol 
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So by opening his big mouth HE, HIMSELF, cost his contract money... Or it was his agent in which case, Collins was poorly represented and the agent should be canned...
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I am ignorant of the new rules. If he is a murderer...I have no words for him (not good ones).
But if he is not...It is one law suit I think would be deserved to win. Betcha he'll be allowed in the 2016 draft of course see you in a year on that one...lol I agree, if he is exonerated, a lawsuit is the best course of action. It is also the only way to get around the rules already in place. Simply saying the NFL should have given in to his request with a mere 24 hours to go over the information is negligent. It will all get ironed out one way or another. Heck, they still have a lot of time until the supplemental, it is still possible to get an outside mediator and allow him into the supplemental based on the outcome of the investigation. Had he gotten drafted by someone taking a late round flyer on his rights, that would not have been possible. Who knows the league office might have suggested as much to the clubs, hoping this was the outcome all along. None of us know what is really going on with this.
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Collins will not sign with any team...he said so and probably why nobody drafted him (he stated this after the first round was over) he won't sign a UDFA he's going to take the year off and then re-submit in the 2016 draft.
If he is cleared of all wrong doing - the NFL did him wrong for not letting him take his name out of the draft and re-enter in the Supplemental.
Shame. Yes, he made that statement, however, it has since been established that he is not eligible for the 2016 Draft. Weird twist to the rules, had he been chosen in the draft, that team has one year to hold on to his rights, while the player can refuse to sign a contract, then if after the year, if he hasn't signed, he the team will lose the rights and the player can re-submit for the following year draft. However, if he is not drafted, he becomes a free agent, thus deeming him ineligible for any future drafts. He is free to sign with any team. So by opening his big mouth HE, HIMSELF, cost his contract money... For the record, the NFL didn't do any of this..If you make yourself eligible, you are eligible. The rules are in place so players don't get a week from the draft, then decide to pull their name when it becomes apparent they are going to go lower than they had hoped when they declared. If the rules weren't in place, players would simply declare, feel out the process and go back to college, costing teams tons of money and irreplaceable time researching players that won't even be available. It isn't there, just in case the one in a million (maybe lower) that one of the eligible players ex girlfriends gets murdered and that player had nothing to do with it..Which no one even knows is true yet and we are a day after the draft ended... Bad timing? Absolutely, the NFL or Baton Rouge Police Departments fault? Absolutely not... Bad luck for Collins if he had nothing to do with it as it seems... Really good luck for whomever would have drafted him if it turns out the other way.. However ..... He can now pick where he goes, and he also can signa maximum of a 3 year deal. He can redo his contract after 2 years. If he has a great career, then he will make out in the end.
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Collins will not sign with any team...he said so and probably why nobody drafted him (he stated this after the first round was over) he won't sign a UDFA he's going to take the year off and then re-submit in the 2016 draft.
If he is cleared of all wrong doing - the NFL did him wrong for not letting him take his name out of the draft and re-enter in the Supplemental.
Shame. Collins will not sign with any team...he said so and probably why nobody drafted him (he stated this after the first round was over) he won't sign a UDFA he's going to take the year off and then re-submit in the 2016 draft.
If he is cleared of all wrong doing - the NFL did him wrong for not letting him take his name out of the draft and re-enter in the Supplemental.
Shame. A player who isn't drafted can't re-enter the draft.... Question though: Is there a maximum contract that you can give an UDFA? Really, Collins should be in a good position now. Any team in the league should offer a contract similar to that you would give a first round pick (and maybe even a bit more than you'd give a first round pick, given that you are not spending a draft pick). Then you just include language (it's already in most contracts) that voids the deal if he is charged with murder, and you are good. Any team can offer that deal today (I think?) - and it doesn't hurt you at all if he is charged, just go back and void the deal. The only thing i'm not sure of is whether there is a maximum deal for UDFA -- that would change things completely.
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Question though: Is there a maximum contract that you can give an UDFA?
There is a UDFA pool of money, usually around 88K, that teams have to spend on UDFA. So, yeah, kinda. I think last year the most a player got was 20K.
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Ah, in that case he's in trouble....
Guess it's a one year deal, then hope for a big payday.
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I think the most a UDFA can make is around $1.5M over 3 years. Where they really get screwed, compared to drafted players, is their signing bonuses. Each team has $88,000 to pay out in signing bonuses, which means most guys will only get around $8K. I read that even a 7th round pick can expect a signing bonus around $50K. In that sense he would have been better off getting drafted, even if it was way later than expected.
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add EJ Bibbs, TE Iowa State Cleveland Browns VJ Fehoko LB Texas Tech Kyle Prater WR Northwestern Eric Patterson CB Ball State Kennenth Penny DB UNLV De’Ante Saunders CB Tennessee State London Feichter SAF Purdue EJ Bibbs TE Iowa State Marvin Kloss K South Florida (Tryout) Steven Gurolla OL Arizona (Tryout) Joe Kaleta DL Coastal Carolina (Tryout) Kevin Haplea TE Florida State (Tryout) Kevonte Martin-Manley (Tryout) Braylon Heard RB Kentucky (Tryout) Travis Lee CB Miles College (Tryout) http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2015-nfl-undrafted-free-agents
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J/C:
One thing about Collins, as a UFA he can be a free agent after three years, and renegotiate after two. Drafted players must wait longer for both. If he gets a good second contract he can make more in four years than those drafted after the first round fairly easily. Once he fell out of the early going, not being drafted was his best option as long as he can avoid injury and play up to expectations.
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Connor Halliday, QB, Washington State signed with Redskins, not Browns.
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I wonder if the local kid from John Carroll Univ - Mark Myers - was picked up? Kiper had him ranked 9th among QBs. We had a thread about him here.
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When did we quit using 'S' for safety and start using SAF?
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Clevesteve just copied that from somewhere else, a Pats website that is usually accurate I believe.
Northeasterners just like to be different, I guess.
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You know you are a small school prospect when your highlights are filmed through chain-link fence. He did look interesting, though.
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j/c: If La'el Collins is cleared, sign bonus must fit w/in $86K UDFA budget, but 3yrs min salaries could be guaranteed = $1.57M. https://twitter.com/SeniorBowlPhil
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Hopefully we can find some more Taylor Gabriel and Crow type undrafted FAs. Don't forget K'waun Williams! We hit the jackpot with undrafted guys last year. Also, Connor Shaw stinks, but he is a viable third QB.
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I wonder if he is close with La'el. Martin-Manley is an interesting WR/Returner. Doubt he beats out Benjamin, but offers a little more size and did have a 2 punt return TD game. For Buckeye Fans: Baldwin to Ravens Curtis Grant to Chargers Rod Smith to Seahawks
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For Buckeye Fans:
Baldwin to Ravens
Curtis Grant to Chargers
Rod Smith to Seahawks
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I wonder if he is close with La'el. Stating the obvious: If we got Collins we would have, by far, the best offensive line in the league. I don't see anyway we get him though. If I were him I would go to Buffalo.
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Stating the obvious:
If we got Collins we would have, by far, the best offensive line in the league. I don't see anyway we get him though. If I were him I would go to Buffalo.
Why Buffalo? They have Cordy Glenn, Seantrel Henderson, and Cyrus Kouandjio at tackle. Here he'd have to beat out Mitchell Schwartz. He was the top RT on our board (allegedly). Mitchell Schwartz was an old regime pick. I think Collins fits what we want to do better. Wouldn't being on the best offensive line actually be a selling point?
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Collins can supposedly plan guard or tackle. If I'm him I go to a team with a horrible offensive line situation, not to a place where I'm going to have to compete to win a job.
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