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sí, los árboles se podan senior 40.

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Of course black lives matter, just like any other life. We were all a fetus once! However, why is it we only hear the mantra when white on black violence occurs? Where are these opportunists when black on black violence occurs? Do black lives matter only when taken by a person of another race? Do black lives not matter when taken by a person of the same race? This is the conclusion one might draw when the opportunist only repeat the mantra when white on black black violence occurs. Where are these folks when black on black crime occurs? Do we hear it then? Did we miss it then? Did it not occur then? Does it not matter then? They crawl into the woodwork, no money to be made!

What you say has a lot of merit.

Further, this idea that cops are killing Black people, and no one else ever dies at the hands of Police is not backed up by the facts.

Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage: analysis - Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015...ity-d/?page=all

From the article:


As researchers are quick to point out, FBI data on police shootings by race is notoriously incomplete, which may explain why Peter Moskos, assistant professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York, decided to use figures from the website Killed by Police.

Based on that data, Mr. Moskos reported that roughly 49 percent of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30 percent were black. He also found that 19 percent were Hispanic and 2 percent were Asian and other races.

His results, posted last week on his blog Cop in the Hood, arrived with several caveats, notably that 25 percent of the website’s data, which is drawn largely from news reports, failed to show the race of the person killed.

Killed by Police lists every death, justified or not, including those in which the officer had been wounded or acted in self-defense.

quote by 40 above:

"sí, los árboles se podan senior 40."

Only if I really did: L.O.L.

If the race of the person killed is not reported, it probably means they're white.

How in the world can you use a stat sheet that is + or - 25% ?

Homicide's number 37 and 38 in Baltimore last night for the month of may.

Arrests are way down since the riots.

the arrest numbers should've went up.

the riots are over, the mayor needs to have the cops roaming the streets. i dunno wth she thinks shes doing.

I don't know that it's the mayor.

I've heard the cops are now afraid of doing their job. They pull up to a call and they say they are scared to do their job.

People with cell phones in their face - blocking them, confronting them - the cops basically said "can't work like this".

I don't live there, I don't know.......it just seems like the few are preventing law and order based on some small sample.

38 dead this month? Is that what someone said?

It's getting out of hand and the cops are becoming afraid to do their job.

there SHOULD be cameras.

they better get use to it. they better adapt.

The Cops are adapting, they have ended their policy of aggressive pursuit of crime. Some have stated they are more afraid of getting arrested themselves than getting shot. They feel Government does not have their backs at this point so they have gone into defensive mode.

The double murder Thursday of a young mother and her 7-year-old boy brought Baltimore's bloody monthly homicide tally to 38, a figure that dwarfs that of similar-sized cities and even exceeds the total for the same period in New York.

Jennifer Jeffery-Browne, 31, and her son, Kester, were found shot to death in their southwest Baltimore home, leaving friends and family heartbroken and city officials scrambling to reverse a tide of carnage that began following the racially-charged death of a black man in police custody. Police say the way City Hall and the local prosecutor handled the Gray case, which sparked several days of rioting and looting and led to the indictments of six cops, has handcuffed them and emboldened criminals.

"Criminals feel empowered now. There is no respect. Police are under siege in every quarter. They are more afraid of going to jail for doing their jobs properly than they are of getting shot on duty."

- Lt. Gene Ryan, President of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 3

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/30/mur...ay-case-dwarfs/

sorry but that's their own problem.

i'm tired of cops being like "woe is me" because they are the ones screwing up.

everybody wants to talk about how there are more good cops than bad.

sorry, but if the good cops aren't getting rid and whistleblowing on the bad cops, it makes them just as much of a problem.

do your job, and the court of law, like it always has, will back them up.

every time i get pulled over i put the iphone on them. that's my right as a citizen.

wear a body cam, and do your job according to protocols, and at the end of the day, you won't get in trouble.

Sorry but i hear a bunch of whining from cops that basically sound like this "i can't flex my muscles at civilians anymore so i feel weak".

tired of the excuses. if you don't feel you can do you job properly, then quit.

and before anybody says it.

yes, i WILL call a crackhead before i call a cop. their response time is faster and i can give them a cheeseburger for handling my business for me.

I just watched a video of a Police Officer trying to wrestle a man on the ground but the man was putting up such a fight that the Officer could not gain control. The mans one arm was out to the side and the Officer appeared to be trying to protect his weapon.

The Cop was white, the man was black.

A crowd of black citizens was gathering all around and yelling and cursing at the cop. Why you choking him! Why you fighting him! Let him alone you white.......... Get off him you white.......

As they struggled, a young white man came walking along and saw what was happening. He stopped and asked the struggling cop if he needed some help to which the cop said "Grab his arm!"

The crowd began moving in and screaming at the young man every kind of racial slur you can imagine. The crowd began to grab at the man while yelling "Why you helping him you white....." They pulled on him until he was almost on his side when the cop got the guy cuffed and under control.

I can't post the video because of the language and racial slurs the crowd was screaming throughout.

A sad state of affairs in these United States.

and?

i was in iraq searching people and had kids throwing rocks at us.

i still did my job properly.

i don't wanna hear the excuses.

Should have been in Cleveland and Baltimore in the 60's ! Oh yea , and the do the Nam ..

old timers tell me stories about the Huff riots in cleveland. and stories about Nam.

today's riots sound like child's play compared to what they tell me.

Just wait. Riots won't be dying down anytime soon.

Wow. If only the officer had a taser or mace and didn't have to rely on the public to do his job.

Compared to his contemporaries; this cop should be awarded the medal of honor for not drawing his weapon and shooting every person in the vicinity... Do you think if he shot the white guy CNN would report it as white on white crime?

Yes, I can see by some of your attitudes this situation is going to get worse.

A sad state of affairs in these United States.

Well they are most likely telling the truth ! That coming from an old timer ..

Yes. It's a shame that white people and minorities might be on an equal playing field

Enjoy your last days in the sun, 40.

That's not it at all. I live around all the minorities and most of them are doing quite well. We attend festivals and meetings together and everyone is working their way up the ladder just as our ancestors did. Why even now it is the Hispanic population that is carrying the U.S. economy because the are opening and running most of the small businesses in America. The Asians and Asian Indians are highly educated and are Doctors and such in my area. We all work together for our community's betterment.
No, I don't see a problem with Minorities where I live. The sun shines on most of us.

The News just reported more killings over the weekend bringing the final tally of Homicides for the month of May in Baltimore to 43.

Then the people better be prepared to adapt too. Every time a video surfaces of 4 or 5 cops wrestling one guy to the ground, it looks excessive... On video and out of context, usually without audio, it looks extremely violent. Nowhere does it say that a suspect or a perpetrator is owed a fair fight by the authorities. Yet some people seem to be of the opinion that 5 cops wrestling one guy to the ground is "unfair"...

Suspects and perpetrators have also adapted, they now know that if they are being questioned or detained by the police, just stall until somebody pulls out a camera, then passive-aggressively refuse to cooperate, don't swing at the cops or get violent, just refuse to cooperate.. eventually the cops are left with only the option of forcing you to cooperate and on video, it looks like the cops are being overly aggressive... they know the game, they know how it's played, and they now know that if it's on video, they will garner sympathy and the cops will be painted as the bad guys.

Watched a video the other day of a cop shooting, cop approached a black guy outside a church because his gf was in the church and she had reported that he had threatened to kill her. Cop approaches, guy stands there and gets patted down, cop finds the gun in his belt, perpetrator takes off out of the parking lot and down the street, has about a 30-40 foot headstart on the cop who is chasing him, drops his gun while he's running, stops and turns toward the cop, picks up the gun while facing the cop, cop shoots him several times. Guy is found dead on the side of the road, gun beside him, loaded and cocked.... Leader of the local NAACP says the shooting could have been avoided... Yes, it could have been avoided.. had the guy not threatened his gf, not run when the cop found the gun, left the gun on the ground and kept running... lots of things could have happened to avoid the shooting, none of which were the cops fault.

What good are cameras if people won't believe what they see?

great.

get use to cameras. i have no issues with it.

I saw a video of Tamir Rice being shot within 3 seconds of a police car pulling up. Then the video showed his sister being restrained to the ground.

I'm not holding this up as proof that all officers are guilty, but i don't think all videos are set-ups intended to frame police either.

I'm sure people are doing that, but that doesn't usually end in death. It's the deaths that are the issue.