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Is it possible that religion was invented thousands of years ago as a tool to help create and uphold social order as the human population continued to grow? I mean what if the Bible was just written by a group of scholars that then went on to swear it true, and for the last few thousand years it's just stuck and people accept it as truth. That's not necessarily what I believe, but to me, it's a logical explanation for how religion originated and I certainly believe its a possibility. Thoughts?


It's a possibility, but I think the opposite is also possible. Just replace the Bible with Evolution in your scenario.

I'm not really for or against the Bible or Evolution. I'm just not willing to rule either out.

That's such a reach. Evolutionists have no real power in the world. Evolution would be a very failed conspiracy if "controlling people" was a goal.


I'm not sure if your response was to me directly, or the follow up.

I didn't necessarily mean they meant to control people, but it could have been used as a tool to help maintain social order?

Be good and go to heaven, be bad and go to hell.

I'm not arguing either way, and I'm not sure if I believe that or not BUT I certainly won't deny that it's a possibility.


I think Paul and the Popes made it quite clear throughout history that Christianity is a tool for control.

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I just saw this within your quoted response, but I had to respond to it.

This one sentence is completely misunderstood as the message of the Bible. This is not the message of the Bible. The message of the Bible is that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and that we cannot make it to heaven by our own actions. Every single one of us has sinned. I was in open rebellion against God, and had made up my own "god" who somehow approved of the sins I preferred. I know that I have sinned, more times than I can count. I was completely incapable of saving myself. God knew that. That is why Jesus (who is God) had to come to earth in the form of a man, to live a perfect life, and to become a perfect sacrifice and die for our sins.

If the criteria for heaven was "being good", and the judging criteria were the 10 Commandments, then not one of us could make it to heaven. God knows this, and that is why He sent Jesus to earth to die for us, and to redeem us. None of us can go to heaven without Jesus Christ. Jesus offers forgiveness through His death, but we have to accept this gift. We have to accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, and repent (decide to turn away from) our sins. That is the "cost", but it really isn't a cost. The cost of our sin is death. The gift of Jesus Christ is life. We just have to choose that gift.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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