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From the report, it seems that no one is interested. Aside from the injury concerns, that really truly surprises me. However, I don't think he fits into the fold here...

That speaks to personality.

So, with all of the analytics they use to evaluate their draft picks, you would think that some of these red flags would be raised. I mean, they will even go back and interview junior high coaches. Of course, we drafted Josh Gordon....

So, with all of the analytics they use to evaluate their draft picks, you would think that some of these red flags would be raised. I mean, they will even go back and interview junior high coaches. Of course, we drafted Josh Gordon....

When no one is interested in a trade, that just means they think he will be cut.

RGIII cannot read coverages. Once teams figured that out, they gameplanned to keep him in the pocket and beat them w/his reads. He has been unable to do that.

RGIII cannot read coverages. Once teams figured that out, they gameplanned to keep him in the pocket and beat them w/his reads. He has been unable to do that.

Compounding that huge problem, he is a prima donna who throws coaches and teammates under the bus. Most of his teammates don't like him. His coaches despise him.

He's arrogant. He is football dumb. He is selfish. He is fragile.

No wonder no one is interested.

He never read coverages well. He was put into great situations by two brilliant offensive minds when he was a rookie.

lmao playing fast and dangerous with RG3's running ability doesn't make them good coaches. They were morons who didn't properly develop him and deserved to be fired.

From the report, it seems that no one is interested. Aside from the injury concerns, that really truly surprises me. However, I don't think he fits into the fold here...

So, there's this....

Who would have thought that there is a more dysfunctional organization?

End game? Per report, RG3 Finished as Starting QB

RG3 Done as Starter?

Is the end of the Robert Griffin III saga in Washington near? An ESPN report suggests it just might be.

According to the report, front office officials and coaches are prepared to move on from Griffin but they are meeting resistance from ownership. There have been trade talks involving Griffin but there has been no interest.

But, in any case, it appears that Griffin’s time as the starting quarterback here is near an end. According to the report, from Adam Schefter and Dianna Russini, there is a “groundswell of support from a strong segment of football people within the organization to change quarterbacks.”

In terms of either trading or releasing Griffin, they are meeting resistance from owner Daniel Snyder. It is uncertain if coach Jay Gruden, general manager Scot McCloughan, and others in the football part of the operation have the authority to remove Griffin from the roster against Snyder’s wishes.

But it is clear that McCloughan and Gruden can start either Kirk Cousins or Colt McCoy over Griffin. Per the report, they are “determined” to do so.

It appears that the end game is in process. Per the report, Gruden and Snyder have made up their minds that they think the team is better off without Griffin. Snyder needs to be convinced that it is the way to go or perhaps Griffin will ride out the season on the bench.

It’s going to be a messy week, folks. Buckle in. But the good news is that this mess could be over in a week or so.

The Shanahans basically ran RGIII into the ground with read options. He went into that playoff severely hampered and then got destroyed even further.

RGIII will be a free agent by the end of the week. I wonder who will pick him up.

RGIII will be a free agent by the end of the week. I wonder who will pick him up.

It'd be hilarious if the Rams picked him up and figured out how to turn him into a QB.

Can't wait to rub this in all my friends' faces who called the Browns ridiculous for not making that trade.

Well we tried to, there was just a better offer. And it's not like we hit on the picks we would have given up to get RGIII either.

(I didn't want to do the trade at the time either.)

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'Now We Can Start Winning'

No matter how many times some people get hit in the face w/evidence, they still don't see the reality of the situation.

Yeah, it's the coaches fault.

RGIII is a self-centered, overrated coach killer who just got what was coming to him.

this reply has the sole intentions of rubbing it in to those that were pimping using 3 first round picks to trade up for RG3 and ripping me for wanting Tannehill with our #4 overall pick. Thats right folks, I was right and you were wrong

Legit question here for everyone...

Do you guys think this could be the last, or the beginning/start of a long time, before another blockbuster packaged deal is spent to move up to select someone? I mean three first rounders, a second round and/or whatever else they threw in to move up to acquire RGIII?

I mean, that hurt that organization pretty brutally and in many ways. It's a screwed up organization anyway, but this for sure set em' back even more.

Holmgren offered the same deal for RG3 and possibly more. He was angry the Rams didnt take his better offer. Traded up from 4 to 3 for Trent Richardson and selected weeden at 22. MY GOODNESS that is the worst decisions in the history of the draft.

I think that that particular trade has at the very least made GMs across the league cautious. I think that is the reason we didn't see any action for teams trying to really move-up for Winston or Mariotta.

The Julio Jones trade worked out for the Falcons while the Browns screwed up everything

There were high expectations heaped on Julio Jones when the Atlanta Falcons traded away a boatload of draft picks in the 2011 NFL Draft to move up from No. 27 in the order to No. 6 so they could select Jones.

Big, bold trades have happened in the past like the Jacksonville Jaguars trading up from No. 26 to No. 8 for Derrick Harvey, or the Saints trading away every pick they had in the 1999 NFL Draft to move from No. 12 to No. 5 for Ricky Williams. Atlanta's move of 21 spots was just a little bit bigger and little bit bolder than any other, and has set the precedent for going all in on one player.

The Falcons sold out two years' worth of valuable draft picks for Jones and their investment in the receiver on Saturday shows that, four years later, they still believe in the trade they made.
The Falcons got their man

All in all, the Falcons sent the Browns a first-round pick (No. 27), a second-round pick (No. 59) and a fourth-round pick (No. 124) in 2011, and also chipped in the No. 1 pick in 2012 (No. 22) and their No. 4 pick in 2012 (No. 118).

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All for one player. Was it worth it?

"Absolutely," said Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff earlier this year.

And how can you argue with him? No player in Falcons franchise history has racked up more receiving yardage in a single season than Jones did in 2014 with 1,593. He's also one of four players to ever finish a season with more than 100 receptions for the team.

The Falcons proved on Saturday how valuable they consider Jones, giving him a new five-year, $71.25 million deal that makes him the second-highest paid receiver in the NFL. The $47 million guaranteed for Jones trails only the $53.25 million that the Detroit Lions gave Calvin Johnson in 2012.
The Browns didn't get much at all

How did the Browns fare on their end of the trade? Well ... not so hot.

The first-round pick in 2011 was used to trade up and select defensive tackle Phil Taylor, the only player from the trade who's still in Cleveland. The next three picks were used on Greg Little, Owen Marecic and Brandon Weeden, while the fourth-round selection in 2012 was sent in the package deal that landed the Browns Trent Richardson. Ouch.

Richardson was eventually dealt to the Indianapolis Colts for a first-round pick, so the Browns recouped some of his value, but that pick was used on Johnny Manziel, who has been less-than-stellar early in his career.

Considering the Browns' current situation at wide receiver will not feature Josh Gordon in 2015 and the team's hopes will rest on Dwayne Bowe carrying the group, Julio Jones would have made for a nice addition, in hindsight.
Mission accomplished comes with drawbacks

Things aren't necessarily all sunshine and roses for the Falcons, though. Dimitroff is right that the team "absolutely" came away with a win by taking Jones, but one of the trade-offs that comes with trading five high-value draft picks for just one is that it can leave holes in the roster unfilled.

After 23 wins in the first two seasons with Jones on the team and two trips to the postseason, the wheels fell off and the Falcons have just 10 wins in the last two years. Jones is already one of the best receivers in Falcons history, so there's no reason Dimitroff should be regretful, but four more picks to work with, including first- and second-round selections could have helped the Falcons from falling from grace.

Or the Falcons could have made the same picks the Browns did and they'd be much worse off without Jones. So goes the NFL Draft.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/30/9164545/julio-jones-falcons-browns-2011-draft-trade