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They did at that... and they explained the comparison. I thought it was a good one personally.

I'm hoping Pullard and Lenz make it to the PS

I know things can change, but I am not at all comfortable keeping just 6 O-linemen. That is just 1 guy on the bench. Sorry, that isn't enough.

Well, according to his agent's tweet, OT Mcdonald will be resigned to the 53 man roster within the next few days. I'm not sure who we plan on moving/maneuvering, but it looks like our plan is to keep 7 OL active ... Erving to backup the 3 interiors and McDonald on the outside

Well, we need to do something. I don't know that I am all that comfortable with just 7. I'd feel better if we somehow got it to 8.

j/c:

--A few people are mentioning how we are cutting players who would have been starters a few years ago and about how deep our roster is. I disagree. We have guys like Bademosi, Carder, Gaines, Housler, and Campbell on this roster. We are hoping Bowe can play. We have McCown as our starting qb. We don't have a true #1 WR. We don't have a RB who has distinguished himself. Our OL depth is pathetic. Who is our kicker? I thought out backups were overwhelmed in 3 out of the 4 preseason games. I completely disagree that we are a deep team.

--I think we should bring in Matt Cassell. I was hoping one of the other two qbs for Buffalo would be cut, but figured it would Cassell. He isn't flashy, but he won't make as many mistakes as McCown. No, we would not start him right away, but he could take over after McCown proves he is McCown, which will be w/in a few weeks.

--Hoping we can add a decent back-up o-lineman or two. We are really think there.

--Still upset that Pullard and Lenz got cut.

I'd take Cassel over McCown.
I imagine we are scouring the waiver wire to get some OL help and btw I agree with you somewhat: we aren't as deep as we think we are. It will be interesting to see how many cast offs other teams will pick from our scrap help.

I also don't understand cutting Lenz.

NFC cuts to 53 man roster:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/04/pfts-2015-nfc-53-man-roster-cuts-tracker/


AFC cuts to 53 man roster:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/04/pfts-2015-afc-53-man-roster-cuts-tracker/


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Here's some guys I wouldn't mind seeing the Browns kick the tires on:

WR - James Jones, Jared Abrederis, Duron Carter

FB - Henry Hynoski, Zach Boren

RB - Jonas Gray

TE - Joseph Fauria

QB - Austin Davis, Matt Cassel

I know a lot of posters think we need an OT backup, but I don't think those guys ever hit the waiver wire. If we need a backup RT/LT, we'll probably need to trade for him.

I think Bowe is going to be a huge disappointment. He has done nothing for several years and has a bad attitude. He is circa 2014 Miles Austin talent level with an attitude more like Josh Gordon's. He didn't come in determined to work hard or mentor young players, like Hartline. He came to cash a check we stupidly wrote him, and it was so generous we cut better players to avoind the embarrassment of cutting him.

I would have been happy to just stay with Miles Austin. He was cash-money last year before the injury; I think he led the team in First Down receptions (or maybe was 2nd). He probably won't get deep on anyone, but it doesn't look like Bowe will either.

I really liked Abbrederis coming out. Packer fans probably have homer love for him akin to our homer love for Pryor. I bet they aren't happy with that move in light of the injury to Nelson.
Duron Carter cut, huh!? The stuff I was reading leading up to his signing made it seem there was a veritable bidding war for his services. I guess he just walks on dry land like the rest of us.
Who was the guy who had, "Whatever happened to Henry Hynoski" in his signature? I remember reading that, looking him up, and thinking Dang, that kid can bring da ruckus.
Right there with you on Davis. I was thinking McGloin would make sense based on history with our staff, but he was too crisp and collected leading his team to a late game lead vs. the Cards last week to be let go.

I was thinking about this this morning in relation to leadership by example, specifically an example for Pryor. I can see Pryor being told, "You want to see what it takes to be a receiver in this league watch Bowe/Austin." With Austin you'd see the knack for getting separation and the ability to use your body to shield defenders and provide a target. With Bowe you see... well I'm not sure what since we haven't seen much at all through an entire camp and preseason. I do know that Pryor seems to be observing and following Bowe's example, though. Hopefully they are watching film together while they rub each others hamstrings.

2. I for one didn't think Lenz had a chance of making our roster. [/quote\]

Lots of people did though.

I'll repost this:

So pettine had this to say about Lenz and still he cuts him:

"We think a lot of Josh," coach Mike Pettine said. "All he's done is come in and done everything we've asked of him. He gets open. He catches the football. He's very productive. He's made the most of his opportunity."

Cleveland Browns Locker Room Upset Over Roster Cuts?

The Cleveland Browns roster cuts are in, and all doesn’t appear to be well in Browns town.

The day after Donte Whitner voiced his support for wideout Josh Lenz, the undrafted free agent was waived.

DonteHitner ✔ @DonteWhitner
We talk about #PlayLikeABrown right? Well, just take a look at him and he's the true definition of #PlayLikeABrown

Wideout Brian Hartline took to Twitter to ambiguously air some his grievances with how the process works. Some has perceived Hartline as commenting on the team’s decision to release Lenz, over Terrelle Pryor. Lenz was a player many consider to be deserving enough to make the squad, while Pryor made the switch to a new position and played one half in garbage time of the preseason finale.

Hartline was criticized for “rocking the boat” by his Twitter followers.

Brian Hartline ✔ @brianhartline
Tough to see guys go when you know they deserve to stay.

Brian Hartline ✔ @brianhartline
I wonder how much diff a NFL team would look if you asked their professional teammates who they would want to be on the team beside them.

The Browns have set themselves up for this type of dillema because the play “Play like a Brown” mantra is becoming a hard line to maintain in Berea. First, Brian Hoyer–one of the few quarterbacks that’s won more than he’s lost is shown the doors.

And now Lenz–a player many, including teammates, thought was deserving of roster spot.

But perhaps the mantra needs to chance. How can the team have this mindset? Like most of the Browns coaches, the players are inexperienced, young and haven’t tasted winning at the highest levels of their profession.

Was cutting Lenz disappointing? Sure. End of the world type stuff? No. The fact is the Browns have had plenty of Lenz’s since returning in 1999. They currently have a bunch of Lenz’s on the roster. Hartline, Andrew Hawkins and Taylor Gabriel come to mind. These players overachieve despite a lack of physically tools. Size with Hawk and Gabriel, and speed with Hartline.

Farmer had no choice but to keep Pyror. Cleveland’s a team void of playmakers. To think Pryor can be that savior immediately is a long shot, but it’s better than what Cleveland’s currently running out on the field.

“Play like a Brown” has to mean something…and soon. Because it’s a message the players will soon tune out, and will be relegated to words on a wall at the team’s practice facility.

https://factoryofsadness.co/2015/09/06/cleveland-browns-locker-room-upset-over-roster-cuts/

Ok and players aren't posters. You don't see players openly questioning their coaches and GM's on social media. Honestly it's none of the players' business to tweet about that stuff. It just proves what everyone knows about the Browns already. Mismanagement.

I'm not so sure Pettine and Farmer won't be on the hot seat this year.

lets see one player tweets about another player the before he was cut and another player send another tweet out after he is cut... yep sounds like a full fledged mutiny to me... over the last WR to keep on a roster...

Two leaders on the team. Maybe mutiny is a harsh word, but it's still an example of mismanagement by the FA+Coaches.

I agree on Farmer but not Pettine. You can't blame Mike for a sucky meal if Farmer's the one buying the groceries. I remember when Haslam first came onboard, he said first round picks needed needed to be Pro Bowl caliber players (or words to that effect). Farmer has had 4 1st rounders so far, and only one is expected to even start, much less excel. Cutting a 4th rd pick yesterday won't help his cause, and I can't believe Haslam is very happy about Bowe getting $9M guaranteed.

Good points Dave. Still too early to judge farmer's draft day doings, but I hear ya.

well between letting skrine, sheard, and rubin go. all players that "PLAY LIKE A BROWN" and now this. while mutiny is not the right word they are def losing the meaning of play like a brown.

Maybe the players are sick of hearing about "play like a Brown". I know I am, because what does that even mean?

It's not an example of mismanagement by the coaches.

It's an example of "non management" employees thinking they know more than management.

This happens in every form of business every day. Non management employees are very myopic. They don't understand the big picture or the shades of grey in having to deal with the big picture. They get to opine without taking into consideration anything other than the views in their little world.

Sometimes non management employees are right, but most of the time they are not. It's easy to complain about things when you don't ultimately have any responsibility for it at all.

Mottos and slogans and mission statements are good for high school and college, but not for grown men IMO. It's a business and everyone knows we're a joke ... when I first heard "play like a brown" I literally started to laugh

It's like they tried to make a trite, meaningless cliche on purpose.

Totally agree.

I am a big supporter of staying the course with Pett and Farmer, but this "play like a Brown" was one of the dumbest ideas two newbies to their position could have dreamt up. It's idiotic, childish, and embarrassing particularly for a franchise with a losing culture.

Quite simply, it's laughable.

Get this clear. The time to re sign Mike Pettine and Ray Farmer is Now!

You are going to have to pay more for them in the future.
If you fire them you won't get anyone better to come to this dysfunctional organization.
No matter how bad this year looks, the 2016-2017 season will be better with them coming back than starting over again.

Pettine, at worst average, is at least stable, and stability is what this organization needs, in order to take a step forward toward winning.

So to add it up, the time to extend Pettine and Farmer is now!

And don't forget, this organization extended our coach and fired him, (about), a year later. Crennel, I think; so it wouldn't be the end of the world.

oh no doubt I mean after all this is arguably the worst WR core in the league and Lenz was what the 6th or 7th best on the team, so out of 185 WR on active rosters he is number 180... no doubt Pet is losing the team over cutting that gut.

I hear that Hartline is in the process of asking for his out right release so he can team up with Lenz and they can offer themselves as a package deal to teams.

Someone should tweet back to Whitner and Hartline and ask them to post their 53.

I bet the answer will be crickets.

Quite a body of work that. TP blocking hi-lites reel.

Eric Edholm ‏ @ Eric_Edholm 33m 33 minutes ago

# Buccaneers, # Browns, # Texans have shown most interest in former # Saints QB Ryan Griffin. Bucs have 1st waiver priority.


Ryan Griffin for the PS? He has one more year of eligibility

Jeremy Fowler ‏ @ JFowlerESPN 18s 18 seconds ago

OL depth RT @ SunnyTheAgent: The @ Browns have claimed @ APsixseven off waivers.

Anyone know anything about Austin Pasztor

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he is a Brown

but does he play like one?

Austin Pasztor will be taking on a new role for the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2015. After his 2014 season ended prematurely thanks to a torn hamstring, Pasztor will be looking to start fresh in more ways than one.

He has been a consistent factor of the Jaguars' right tackle position for the past couple of years, but he's now going to try to balance his presence there as well as play further inside at guard.

Now more than ever, tackles are switching inside to guard thanks to a skillset that better suits more traditional tackles and the overwhelming responsibly of blocking edge-rushers who seem to become more plentiful and talented by the year.

So, like those who have come before him, Pasztor will try his hand at guard. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he's completely absent from the right tackle spot; in fact, he'll probably continue to see time there as well.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/25231...s-for-offensive

PatMcManamon ‏ @ PatMcManamon 1m 1 minute ago

No player released by # Browns was claimed on waivers by another team.

blech. so who did they cut to pick up this guy?

it wasn't announced yet. I'm guessing they're trying to still trade West or will just release one of the TEs

Seriously. For a team that has 2 winning seasons in the past 15 years. Our slogan should be play like a patriot or play like a seahawk but not play like a brown and definitely not play like a packer.

Bucs claimed QB Ryan Griffin off waivers from the Saints.

The longtime Sean Payton favorite will slot in as the Bucs' third quarterback, though it's possible he'll ultimately be waived with the hope that he can be snuck through to the practice squad. The Bucs have one of the league's most stable backup situations with Mike Glennon.
Source: Peter Schrager on Twitter