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I'd attribute this directly to absolutely zero leadership on this team. Our leaders (Haden/Thomas) were busy sitting the preseason out.

Your early concern of Pettine running a soft TC was warranted and now we are seeing the results.

When Johnny was selected and walked across the stage.... Roger Goodell TOWERED over him. Every corner on the stage was bigger than him. I knew then that we were in trouble with that pick. Do i WANT Johnny to be the next great QB? HELL YES! I'd love him to be the next Otto Graham. But the odds are very much against it.

A truly ugly game...

Why? Because he fumbled on a blind side hit in his third pro game.

This game is a positive sign for the Browns and Manziel.

I'm 100% positive that Pettine will play McCown when he's healthy even if next week. A move I will strongly disagree with.

the ol man......holy crap.....

I'm so thankful I did not drink the entire glass of koolaid served by Brandon, my ticket agent , and pay an increase for all my season tix. Split my tix this year to avoid so much misery! Somehow, paying for only half lessens the pain of what is historically the Browns.

Great game by the Clowns! A "rookie" head coach blows Pettine and "Text" away.

I can't even put into words how bad this line is

Haden is too social. Wants be everyone's friend.

And Thomas is too quiet. He doesn't want to be a leader.

A little fire from the coach would be nice.

I still think JM should start the season.

God we need skill players

Who should take as much blame for this as anyone. RAY FARMER. Truly the worst GM in the league by a long shot.

gabriel's drop pretty much summed up the game.

Ha-ha-hahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa ugh

Whit wants to be a leader, but he just sucks

Damn…had it-had the first...

We might not win a game this season folks...I cant believe how bad we look.

I wouldn't have traded Winn. He was good.

so our vaunted D line.


ZERO SACKS.

DELAY OF GAME!!!!!!!!!!

I thought it was Josh McCown making an amazing play then getting concussed at the goal line and fumbling it. I thought that was Browns esque. Maybe that third down run? Who knows. We suck. We can't even playing meaningless minutes.

Has "Hitner" made a play?

I honestly would cut whitner and pick someone off a practice squad

There's one good thing about us sucking so much and so resolutely this early... I have my fall Sunday's to back myself again. There's no getting wrapped up emotionally. I'm much more productive in the fall of the years we blow.

And just gave up a 3rd and 9 on a rush.

No pride.

Well ..... all I can say is that this has been one incredibly ugly game. The best comparison I can make is that while I was channels surfing last night, I came across some really stupid show about a guy who wound up going on a date with an absolutely hideous troll.

That is what this game looks like ... a hideous troll. So many stupid mistakes, billions (OK, a slight exaggeration) of penalties, players running into one another .... 5 or 6 turnovers?..... fumbles that should never have happened ..... what an absolute mess.

I can accept some mistakes, given that Manziel missed time in camp, and only returned to practice last week, but man, this is just abhorrent.

I would assume that it is very likely that McCown could be out next week as well ..... so at least Manziel will get time to practice, but in this game even out=r strengths let us down. The OL looked like they have never played together. The secondary has been an embarrassment. Again, we cannot stop the run.

*Sigh* Thank goodness it's only one game. There is a lot of work to do before game 2 though, that's for sure. Game one has been a mess.

And how long do you think he'd survive? He lasted less than two games last year. So we should believe he can survive an entire NFL season why exactly?

You have a point...McCown lasted 1 drive though We're in a pretty bad place.

Holy hell. We're literally not even tackling. We're just trying to throw them down. Pettine needs to go.

to be fair, if you look at how trash our OL is, starting manziel is the only chance we have at winning a game, as he can atleast scramble.

the guy is our leading rusher right now.


pa.the.tic.

Something needs to change now with this organization, I am sick of it frankly.

I think Austin Davis is prob the best qb we have, and that's scary. I'd pick up rice, Thomas, or Bradshaw immediately after the game

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Why? Small, seemingly fragile, elbow tendonitis, sat out most of pre season, how many fumbles this game, personal issues, score of this game. I get it that the O line has not protected and done their job. Manziel needs to learn how to protect the ball in traffic.

I would like nothing more for Manziel to be the superhero of the Browns but just don't see it based on the sampling thus far, technique and fundamentals.

Having a difficult time even thinking we drafted him knowing about the elbow. Big concern there for a qb.

Trust me anyone good will not play for the Clowns!

I have a bunch of questions about some of our units, but I'll wait a couple days until folks calm down a bit.

All I'll say is that I didn't expect them to play great, but I did expect them to look competent, kind of like we have a team of pros who belong on a pro roster. I don't feel like they looked competent.

I'm 32. I've accepted mediocrity for so long that I have no expectations of ever seeing a winner in Cleveland.

No reason to be negative. We played like Browns. This is what our staff has been working for the entire off season.

Dumped Jabal Sheard. He's not good enough to play for the Browns. He is good enough to play for the Patriots though..... Kept Mingo, he's much better. Dumped Green. He's got an attitude problem. Kept Gilbert though. He's been highly productive today. LMAO

I'm numb to the sadness.

Why I can't stop watching? I don't know. What a crap team to love.