DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2015 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 10 Jets 31 The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

The Good:

--Taylor Gabriel played good for most of the game. Good acceleration coming out of cuts.

--Benji really has progressed. He's fast.

--JM looked better than last year.

--Dansby made one real nice stick.

--Hartline's catch, even though I don't think he was the intended receiver. LOL

--Gipson played well accept for getting sucked too far outside on one play.

--Pass blocking was good.

--The kicker did okay.

--Robertson made a few good plays.

The Bad:

--McCown is McDumb. I love his guts, but he takes way too many big hits. He even did this in preseason and I remember Pet pointing to his head, as in---be smart. He was lucky he wasn't killed on his first scramble. He took a huge hit. That was before the fumble.

--JM has to protect the ball.

--Run blocking was putrid.

--No challenge on Marshall's catch.

--Run defense sucked.

--The great, revamped DL was terrible. Almost ugly. Meder looked fat and slow.

--Did Cooper or Orchard even play?

--Outside contain sucked again. Kirskey doesn't have a clue on that part of the game.

--Zero pass rush from that great DL and even our LBers.

--Our TE's dropped 4 passes. Glad we cut Winn for that.

--Gabriel dropped a huge pass.

--Hawkins is a one-trick pony.

--Haden got torched.

--Gipson getting stripped. But, at least he covered someone. I read somewhere where a poster blamed him for the loss......turning point of the game. LMAO

--Poyer sucks in coverage. Glad he is playing lights out.

--Did the other preseason wonder play? Desir?
--Glad Pet ran such a soft camp.

--Duke Johnson was dynamic. Not.

The Ugly:

--We had double digit penalties and 5 turnovers. Undisciplined team led by a weak coaching staff.

--Those were the ugliest uniforms I have ever seen. Too much orange. GAG!!!!

--We got killed by the freaking Jets, who are one of the worst teams in football.

--Thinking about listening to all the excuses from all the homers and argue that I am only critical because I "hate Farmer."

About time.. I was waiting for this... just waiting to see what you and others say.. I'm to pissed for this

Seems about right.

Cooper and Orchard were inactive.

I wonder how many other players drafted as high as Cooper and Orchard were healthy scratches.

Great. I guess that means I should move them to "The Ugly" category.

Sorry.......I have a splitting headache. Even though I get on the Browns on this board, I still root really hard for them on game day. It was a frustrating day.

The ugly: people talking crap to me at the bar about the browns and justifying it "because I'm used to it...ie because the browns always suck"

I would have thrown my drink on them, but my drink was tastey.

LOL........next time, gulp down your drink and go upside their head w/your empty glass.

Lmao...

we played Solomon and Meder over our two top draft picks ... thats a huge statement

Good: The catch by Hartline when he was on the ground and Benji's TD.

Bad and ugly: Everything else that happened in this game.

Where the hell was Desmand bryant all day?

Getting gashed alongside the rest of the defense.

Just like Gilbert and our veteran WR Bowe...both inactive. SMH.

Not making tackles and or sacks, just like the rest of the DL.

Not really sure why you only brought up his name?

I feel your pain.

I hate these Sunday afternoon fall days after a loss.

Gonna be a real stress test for Farmer. You know he'd like to send a hate text to the coaches for not playing "his guys".

Just because I thought he would show something. The whole team tackling wise was putrid. They were doubling Shelton, and the other guys did not take advantage of it. I thought Kruger was terrible today.

Just overall dominated by the Oline and Dline o the Jets, with little to no support from the LBs and DBs.

Des Bryant, Starks, Shelton, Hughes, etc ... absolute atrocity. Just by accident you'd think they'd get pressure ONE TIME all game

Whitner looks SLOOOOOW and old

Haden had an awful game obviously

Gipson's fumble was THE biggest play IMO

LOL...........but, let's try not to lose The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly concept.

Did Meder really play over Shelton? Didn't pay much attention, but the DL looked worse with every snap

I remember Fitzpatrick getting drilled on one play. Other than that we didn't do much.

Whitner whiffed on the TD run (and many other plays).

Hmmmm...........I thought that all of the DL was bad, but Meder, Hughes, and Shelton stood out to me. Blockers were using their momentum to drive them out of the hole and/or seal them.

I thought Robertson was okay on defense. Oh, but I did forget one Ugly. His dance after making the tackle on the punt return was butt ugly. LOL

I thought the DBs, especially Gipson, did a nice job of coming up and helping vs the run. They had a lot of pressure on them to make tackles because our DL was so awful.

I saw Meder at one point and thought to myself, "That guy is an NFL player?"

Good points. Poor technique?

No, I think the dude meant Orchard and Cooper. Shelton started. He made one really outstanding stop, but he was ineffective on many plays. He would choose a gap and their line would just use his momentum to keep him moving in that direction and the back would cut off of that block. Reminded me of G. Warren.

Where is Winn when you really need him ..lol

I think I know the moment and it wasn't during action. He looked completely clueless like "what do I do?" at one point in the game while looking at the sideline.

LOL...I'm chuckling about it right now.

Probably.

It's so hard to freaking tell on tv anymore. They cut away from the pile so fast and do those stupid zoom in shots to a guy's face. I had to rewind one play 3 times just to see who got burned and I am still not positive. Pretty sure it was Poyer. He let a guy run by him on 3rd and long. Very stupid.

Has Kitchen signed? I would like to bring him back to replace Meder.

Shelton struggled, but he is very strong. He needs to learn the NFL game. He should come around. He will at least draw double teams at times. That's a plus.

I think his belly was even sticking out.

God we suck.

I remember that............and his freaking belly was almost touching his knees when he exhaled.

This was pretty much my take on Shelton out of the draft. Most fans and experts loved the pick, but I just didn't see a consistent, depandable DL on tape. And for me, those traits are THE most important one's for any player, but even more so for trench players.

The combination of trading Winn and keeping Cooper off the field as a healthy inactive is mind boggling. Those two were the two best interior pass rushers. Think we could have used at least one of them to collapse the pocket and force some Fitz into some mistakes?

I was constantly asking myself "What are they thinking??"

I agree. It is hard for me to watch the Dline during the game, I tend to follow the ball. the only lineman I remember making a play was Starks, and that was just one. I never knew who was in at any given time.

Whitner was the one I noticed the most as far as blowing his assignments. And Gipson on the TD was out of position.

I sometimes wonder if the coaching staff is blowing too much smoke up these guys behinds. They seem to play as if they EXPECT to be good, instead of showing they can be, if that makes any sense.

oh and another thing, how many FREAKING TIMES are we going to let the opposing team drive the length of the field RIGHT before the end of the half?

that's a big difference between a below average team and an above average team. and we're never on the right side of it.

I kept thinking about Winn during the game. He is the one guy who does get penetration. Well, D. Bryant usually does, but he did not today.

Cooper did in preseason. You're right. The only thing is that he--like Meder--didn't play against the first string OL's. Gotta be careful when evaluating guys in preseason.

I'm actually more critical of defensive back-ups instead of skill guys like qbs and rbs, because it is much easier to come in and play defense than it is offense.

When you say the kicker did okay I take it you mean Coons. If that is the case you need to include punter in the good.

Also, I haven't seen anyone mention the penalties in this thread. What the hell was going on with that?

Good point. I thought that drive by the Jets right before the half was HUGE!

They flashed a stat about how bad our defense was last year on the final drive of each half. Were we last?

I think people on this board seriously overrate this defense.

That was the Jets offense led by Fitz! Seriously?

They definately were not going our way. I hate when holding calls negate a long run. Today it happened with frequency.

I know it. I knew it was over when they scored the TD to Marshall in the back corner. It was a huge hit to our momentum