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Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask End of game thread - 11/12/23 09:26 PM
Let’s gooooooo
Posted By: Milk Man Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:28 PM
What an incredible win and demonstration of perseverance.

Congrats to Stefanski on earning his contract extension!
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:29 PM
Wow! is all I can say for now
Posted By: bonefish Re: End of game thread - 11/12/23 09:29 PM
Holy Hell!!

I am shaking like a leaf
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:29 PM
That was one hard-fought game! We did it guys, we beat the Ravens!!!!!!!
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:29 PM
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:30 PM
I know it was the 1st quarter, but I thought we was cooked.

The next 3 quarters looked like we can run with anybody!!

This game was so up and down, but what a great sign it is to see this team never giving up.

And Deshaun Watson. Man, dude gutted it out, made some crucial throws and scrambles.

He’s getting back to form whether the haters wanna admit it or not. He was the better QB on the field today!
Posted By: captainphil Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:31 PM
shoot me into the sun
Posted By: jaybird Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:31 PM
What a hard fought game... Watson still needs to play better... he had some great plays, especially with his feet... but the pick six was a killer and he continues to miss wide open guys. Ford with a huge day! Cooper and Moore with a great day

Great job defense!!

Great job Hopkins! Way to shake off the missed Extra Point and nail the game winner.... We need to finish drives early though, getting FGs instead of TDs really hurts...
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!

Glad you had to. What guts. The team could have quit many times, especially with all those crappy calls on our defense.
Posted By: boofers20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!


I'll take mine medium well with some A-1 sauce please
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:33 PM
That was an amazing game to watch!! We overcame so much adversity with a comeback win!!
Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:33 PM
Welp, I’m gladly eating crow. Like I said, I prefer it with a nice mint chutney garnish and a glass of Merlot.

Very impressive. It was going just about exactly as I thought it would in the 1st half. I give DW a lot of credit for turning it around. He looked great in the 2nd half. Also Ski, that was a well called 2nd half with a rag tag OL. Najoku looked like what we wanted when we drafted him. Finally.

What a great feeling beating the best team in football at home at the height of the healthiness and from the bottom of the well. Anything’s possible now boys. I think they’re starting to believe
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
What an incredible win and demonstration of perseverance.

Congrats to Stefanski on earning his contract extension!

Great win, but let’s not follow that up with the threat of extending Ski.
Posted By: jaybird Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!

Glad you had to. What guts. The team could have quit many times, especially with all those crappy calls on our defense.

Man - we had some pretty cheap calls called against us today...
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:36 PM
This is what a team win looks like !!
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!

Glad you had to. What guts. The team could have quit many times, especially with all those crappy calls on our defense.

Man - we had some pretty cheap calls called against us today...

As soon as Cincy lost the calls started going our way.

NFL desperately wanted Cincy Balt coming off wins for Thursday.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by boofers20
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!


I'll take mine medium well with some A-1 sauce please

I eat mine raw ...... with feathers. rofl
Posted By: Steubenvillian Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:37 PM
I have to eat some crow. Winning this game with back up all over the place is unreal. Stephanski deserves some accolades. Team win with great coaching all the way around
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:38 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
I know it was the 1st quarter, but I thought we was cooked.

The next 3 quarters looked like we can run with anybody!!

This game was so up and down, but what a great sign it is to see this team never giving up.

And Deshaun Watson. Man, dude gutted it out, made some crucial throws and scrambles.

He’s getting back to form whether the haters wanna admit it or not. He was the better QB on the field today!

I agree he’s getting better. But Lamar was still the best QB today. I didn’t expect a win and didn’t plan to lose either, Just thought we would battle and come up short. Looked that way all day. In the end, we finally took the lead and the game in the final 3 seconds. Unexpected win and I’m elated! Now we have a chance to take the division.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:38 PM
Got to admit I was wrong. I said we would win by 10.
Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess Re: End of game thread - 11/12/23 09:40 PM
A win truly deserving of 2 post game threads. Biggest win of perhaps the past 3 years. Fortune pivoting game. We learned stuff today. Stuff that has to be learned to go the distance. That was a very gutsy fight back to the top. Super impressed right now. There was no asterisks with this one. We just beat the best team in football in their house, when they were just about totally healthy, with a rag tag OL, and came back from a deep hole. Serious kudos, especially DW and Ski. Well
Done boys
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:41 PM
Watson was 14-14 in the second half and led us to a come-from-behind win. In Baltimore. They each threw a pick six. The scoreboard says who was the better QB.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Unexpected win and I’m elated!

I'm simply stunned! I just did not see this coming especially after the first 5 minutes. Truly a signature win....
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:45 PM
Shout out to the D line doing there thing. They kept Lamar relatively contained in the pocket and forced some crucial turnovers!!
Posted By: DogNDC Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:45 PM
Somebody grabbed their balls/[censored] and just Manned the hell up!!... There were certain plays when you saw the Browns just keep fighting...
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!

I'll take two helpings, please.
I had very little faith and when the score hit 14-0, I turned it off and went outside to work in the pasture. Glad for the win, sorry to have missed it happen, gladly eating crow.
Posted By: columbusdawg Re: End of game thread - 11/12/23 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Holy Hell!!

I am shaking like a leaf
I told my wife the same thing, she said I’m glad I don’t let football ruin my Sundays lol
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:47 PM
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
But Lamar was still the best QB today.

How ? Watson lead a come back victory in the Ravens house

Get over your hate
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:49 PM
Deshaun Watson is SEVEN and four as a starter for the Browns since the trade.

Go Browns we want more. and Moore too.
Elijah Moore had a touchdown today, and Hunt,

and the O Line, and the Defense, and and, and,

The J>O>K to Greg Newsome tipped Touchdown,

overcoming the referees and league offices since nineteen, ninety, four.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:50 PM
I doubt that I will ever see a win like that again.

I am soooo damn proud of this team. I can't stand it.

So easy to have crawled into a hole and given up.

Guess what there is no quit in this team.

DW, you did it dude. You laid an egg and showed up when it counted. Some serious heart dude.

Some heroes in this game.

But damn it was a team win for never giving up.
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:50 PM
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Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: End of game thread - 11/12/23 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by columbusdawg
Originally Posted by bonefish
Holy Hell!!

I am shaking like a leaf
I told my wife the same thing, she said I’m glad I don’t let football ruin my Sundays lol

This Sunday wasn't ruined !

althought I may have lost a year or two of my life !

LOL !!
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:51 PM
Watson started 1 for 9 with a pick and a sack.

Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
I doubt that I will ever see a win like that again.

I am soooo damn proud of this team. I can't stand it.

So easy to have crawled into a hole and given up.

Guess what there is no quit in this team.

DW, you did it dude. You laid an egg and showed up when it counted. Some serious heart dude.

Some heroes in this game.

But damn it was a team win for never giving up.

I'll be back later with my thoughts but this is a good start.
Posted By: captainphil Re: End of game thread - 11/12/23 09:52 PM
Can't wait to see the video of game ball distribution... knights of Columbus ... these bois played hard
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:53 PM
Yeah I don’t mind eating crow, feathers and all on this one. This was a statement, season defining type win. EVERYTHING was going wrong , and the team rallied . I don’t think we win this game with Baker. I have to keep reminding myself we don’t have Chubb and that’s such a huge thing to compensate for. But for me that tush push at the end showed how bad this team wanted it. They were fired up.
Posted By: captainphil Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:56 PM
Im going to rewatch this game tomorrow and still need meds to get through it.
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:57 PM
No Chubb, back up to the back up LT and RT, and a still banged up/out of sync QB, and we won. Love it!!
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 09:58 PM
Lol it ain’t easy is it?
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
No Chubb, back up to the back up LT and RT, and a still banged up/out of sync QB, and we won. Love it!!

I gotta say, it's pretty damned impressive - especially after starting fast in a 14-0 hole.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:02 PM
j/c

Who was our LT today, Christian #64? Where did he come from? Played not too bad....
Posted By: DogNDC Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
No Chubb, back up to the back up LT and RT, and a still banged up/out of sync QB, and we won. Love it!!

That is an amazing fact... and the media will not highlight that.... we got people stepping up all over the place.
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:03 PM
If only we can stop treating 1st quarters like a preseason game, we might not be in this tight games
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Swish
If only we can stop treating 1st quarters like a preseason game, we might not be in this tight games

Watson just seems like a slow starter. Got to get him going faster.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:05 PM
- This Browns team is resilient.

- Loved to see a number of defensive players come up to Hopkins after he missed the XP to let him know they still had his back.

- The entire offense pushing Ford into FG range was a beautiful sight.

- Ford quietly had a really nice game.

- Watching Njoku drag defenders is always fun.

- Browns overcame sevral key injuries.

- Hat tip to the defensive line.

- Delpit earning a big contract this offseason.

- This season has been Stefanski's best coaching job.

- Jordan Elliott's blocked FG ended up being a gamechanger.

Gameballs: Watson and Newsome

Next: Go handle the Steelers.
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Rishuz
Originally Posted by Swish
If only we can stop treating 1st quarters like a preseason game, we might not be in this tight games

Watson just seems like a slow starter. Got to get him going faster.

Very true. Thankfully we still have an amazing run game to help with that.

Shout out to Ford, went for 107 with a 6.3 average! We had 178 as a team!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:07 PM
a few things:

- WOW what a win
- Credit to our OL down the stretch .. I wasn't happy with the (backups/2nd backups) OT but they really made their mark
- Credit to Watson. He made some BIG plays for us .. .the throw to Cooper and the big run
- Credit to Ford. He has earned more and more respect
- Defense was huge down the stretch. We had them in hell after that big pass to Andrews
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:08 PM
Only thing that would have made it better is if someone would have pulled a gardocki
Posted By: HarleyDawg51 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:10 PM
I will be honest. I thought the missed extra point would come back and bite us. It has happened so many times. I am 72 years old and have seen it way to many times. Glad I was wrong.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
j/c

Who was our LT today, Christian #64? Where did he come from? Played not too bad....
I don’t know his first name haha!
Gerod? Gerry? Gary? I watched him a few plays and he seemed to not be a turnstile.
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:13 PM
GREAT GREAT WIN!!! I didn't think we could do it. I'll be on a high all weeeeeeeeek!!!! I'd rather have pheasant under glass but I'll gladly eat Crow.
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:15 PM
Football the rest of the week is just nicer to watch after a win
Posted By: TooTall Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:17 PM
So at the 14-3 score, and the Browns showing as much life as Jimmy Hoffa, I bailed on the game. I went Lazy Boy shopping for my 91 year old Mom to see if I could find something with the features she wants. So disgusted, I didn't look up a score or nothing. Fast forward to about 4:05 I get home and tune into the game fully expecting some 45-3 type score and see 31-30 with the Browns apparently playing some actual ball. And of course, the Dayton Double Miracle unfolded before me, Browns pull out a win and the Bengals lose.

Moral of the story: You're all welcome. Seems like whenever I watch every millisecond they stink, but when I give up, they win. Go Browns! Steeler's Week inbound.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:20 PM
You should go shopping next Sunday. wink
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:20 PM
Keep giving up TT!!!!
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
j/c

Who was our LT today, Christian #64? Where did he come from? Played not too bad....

He is a former 2018 3rd round draft pick by the Redskins. At that time, Bill Callahan was the Reskins OL coach and Assistant HC. He has battled injuries throughout his career.

Safe to say, Callahan had a large say in the Browns signing Geron Christian.
Posted By: TooTall Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
I AM HERE WITH YOUR CROW, DOOMERS!!
Drumstick please.
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:24 PM
In October 1968 we went into Baltimore and beat what was at the time, considered to be the best team in the league the Baltimore Colts 30-20 and they were until the Super Bowl. We did the same thing today.!!! Hats off to my Cleveland Browns.
Posted By: RememberMuni Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:24 PM
Best team that we’ve had since ‘86.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:27 PM
Quote
Some heroes in this game.

Just off the top of my head:

David Njoku just dragging defenders for extra yards.

The entire Oline on that last drive....especially the play where they pushed Ford ahead for an extra 10.

Hopkins for overcoming the miss and kicking the walkoff.

Z Smith for just steamrolling that OT. Good God that was awesome!

DW overcoming early mishaps and showing leadership......making plays when it counted. Looked like he was hurt while doing it.

Miles Garrett for having Lamar run scared all day, and the 2 consecutive sacks that seemed to just take the steam out of their offense.

Amari Cooper for just being himself and making clutch catches.

Newsome and the other defenders that circled Hopkins after the missed XP and looked like they were saying something like, "don't sweat it, we'll get you a chance to make it right". That's a team.

What a game.
Posted By: Steubenvillian Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:27 PM
This one is for The Ravenkiller!!! God bless his soul
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:29 PM
An amazing stat. We rushed for 178 yards and 4.9 yards a carry against the best D in football. Something must have been in the water!!!!!!
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:30 PM
He was before my time here, but I like your post.
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:31 PM
TushPush at 45 seconds. What a gritty play by the O = GAMECHANGER

Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:31 PM
Don’t you mean “2nd best D”?
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:33 PM
Well, our backups on D and O sure came to play. What a team effort!!!!
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:37 PM
It was a "no way are we going to win this " after the first few minutes. I was wrong, and am happy about being wrong.
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:37 PM
Great win in every sense. More later but if we're talking heroes, none bigger for me than Mike Ford for his big hit on Lamar.... And Hopkins. I can honestly say I thought he was going to make the game winner and felt 100% confident, well... 97% for sure.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:39 PM
just watching the final drive is so clutch .. Watson made 2 really good throws, had a good run, the OL stepped up, and then Hopkins nails it
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by JimDawg
TushPush at 45 seconds. What a gritty play by the O = GAMECHANGER


I watched the highlight on NFL.com. That wasn't a Tush Push, that was a full-on Rugby Scrum and I'm loving it.
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:53 PM
Originally Posted by jfanent
Quote
Some heroes in this game.

Just off the top of my head:

David Njoku just dragging defenders for extra yards.

The entire Oline on that last drive....especially the play where they pushed Ford ahead for an extra 10.

Hopkins for overcoming the miss and kicking the walkoff.

Z Smith for just steamrolling that OT. Good God that was awesome!

DW overcoming early mishaps and showing leadership......making plays when it counted. Looked like he was hurt while doing it.

Miles Garrett for having Lamar run scared all day, and the 2 consecutive sacks that seemed to just take the steam out of their offense.

Amari Cooper for just being himself and making clutch catches.

Newsome and the other defenders that circled Hopkins after the missed XP and looked like they were saying something like, "don't sweat it, we'll get you a chance to make it right". That's a team.

What a game.

I agree completely about almost all of the posts, but one particular thing caught my attention, and it shows teamwork and attitude.

During the replay of the Ford run that turned into a scrum, the network replayed it to focus on Bitonio coming in late and pushing the pack for more. I then noticed this small body, #8, Elijiah Moore in the middle of that group of about 10 huge guys, driving his legs doing what he could. Now that little 180 lb receiver could have just taken the end of the play but he had guts and played to the end.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:55 PM
Rugby scrum indeed, & good that Ford kept churning his legs to give our big fatties a chance to push the pile. We out-muscled them on that play. Or out-gutted them.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:55 PM
According to so many we can't win big games.

Hopefully people will get on board and believe in this team. They showed incredible heart to fight back and win the game.

Took it away from the team that everyone was ready to crown. Lamar MVP. Nice pick six with the game on the line. Ravens where did your great great defense go?

Where was their great defense when we gave them point blank TD's. All they had to do was stop us. They could not stop us.
24-9 in the third quarter all you had to do was stop us.

Missed the xtra point. All they had to do was stop us. They could not stop us with their folks in their seats.

They couldn't stop our runner while we pushed him down the field. How did it feel Ravens to watch the clock run down while we lined up
"The Game Winner."
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by jfanent
Quote
Some heroes in this game.


DW overcoming early mishaps and showing leadership......making plays when it counted. Looked like he was hurt while doing it.

During after game interviews, bit Stefanski & Watson said he "hurt" his ankle or foot in the first half, had it retaped at halftime and played the 2nd. When asked if he thought about not going back in he said there was no question, I was playing.
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
just watching the final drive is so clutch .. Watson made 2 really good throws, had a good run, the OL stepped up, and then Hopkins nails it
I'm beginning to embrace the D Watson theme music, Urgent by foreigner which originally was a fitting farce.

I've never seen a Browns team win Twelve in the reg. season in my memory, and, that goes back to 80 something? but,
,
... except for, Jax, Houston, maybe Pittsburgh

uh eh eeeh, the Browns, MAYY not end up ninth in the afc, uhhh, twelve wins, ehh MIGHT be possible, who knows.

They ain't won nothing yet, but best part of 6 and 3 is a chance to be
seven and 3 next week.

This team had a 2 point lead in the 2nd half in Pittsburgh on Monday night football, 8 weeks ago.
Posted By: Psydeffect Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
It was a "no way are we going to win this " after the first few minutes. I was wrong, and am happy about being wrong.

I was ready to take my ball and go home at 14-0 also, amazing win and I guess that's why we make ourselves suffer and keep watching on those dark dreary blowout days.

Finally one paid off to keep watching. Thank you Browns.
Posted By: The Collector Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:01 PM
all divison affair next week. Ravens v Bengals, Browns v Steelers...

Ravens, Browns, and Steelers all 6-3, Bengals 5-4

so by end of next week, one team will be 7-3, one team will be 6-4, and there's potential for the other two teams to be 6-4 or 7-3 and 5-5
unless ties... and that would make this even funnier
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:03 PM
Radio said the Browns rushed for One Hundred seventy eight, did the Browns really rush for that much today?
if so, wow.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:07 PM
great postgame speech from KS ... next week is big again
Posted By: dawg66 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:08 PM
Wow! That surprised the heck out of me! Happy for the win, but I was yelling at the TV when KS had Walker throw that Hail-Mary pass at the end of the first half, smart play would have been to run a quick pass play to move a few yards closer then use our timeout and kick the FG. On to next week.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:13 PM
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:15 PM
If Baltimore loses and we beat Pitt, we would be alone in 1st. Just throwing that out there.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:15 PM
I truly think we are better than Pittsburgh, but also think it will be imperative to eliminate the turnovers. That's literally the key
Posted By: dawg66 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts


It might have been 4th down now that I think about it but I still would have tried the FG than the Hail-Mary.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:21 PM
It was 4th down yes
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:24 PM
Heading over to the Ravens' message board.....

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Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:27 PM
Lol
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/12/23 11:50 PM
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I truly think we are better than Pittsburgh, but also think it will be imperative to eliminate the turnovers. That's literally the key

Pitt is winning with smoke and mirrors.
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:14 AM
The Browns and Lions are going to the Super Bowl.
Posted By: boofers20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:17 AM
a little bit of payback for the ratbird kick-six win they had against us some ways back
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts


It might have been 4th down now that I think about it but I still would have tried the FG than the Hail-Mary.

Stefanski addressed this in post game presser. He said he thought 60 was too far and the Ravens had a returner near the goal line. I think he went for the safe play.
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:31 AM
Originally Posted by JimDawg
The Browns and Lions are going to the Super Bowl.

That would be my favorite matchup.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:32 AM
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:39 AM
He keeps getting better incrementally.
Oh, plus we’e won four of our last five games, beaten the alleged best team in football twice. First SF, now Baltimore. Something for everyone to chew on. 😂
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:40 AM
Listen to this all you doubters and haters.

My man Q is fired up. And you know I am with you 100% Quincy

https://bleacherreport.com/cleveland-browns

Listen UP!!!!
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
But Lamar was still the best QB today.

How ? Watson lead a come back victory in the Ravens house

Get over your hate

You fan your way, I’ll fan my way!

Watson did good today, but there is a ton to clean up and he was a disaster in the first quarter. I’m feeling better about him, I’ll give you that, but he wouldn’t have needed to win a comeback if he hadn’t put us in a hole in the first place. Just saying. However, I think for the first time today, he may actually work out for us. That’s a big leap for me, because the BS that came with him disgusts me and I still don’t think he’s earned the titles Elite QB nor Franchise QB.
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Listen to this all you doubters and haters.

My man Q is fired up. And you know I am with you 100% Quincy

https://bleacherreport.com/cleveland-browns

Listen UP!!!!

I was on his channel for the whole game mall cop. I enjoyed every moment. Go taddle tale on someone else...SMH.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:43 AM
we've had a pretty tough stretch of football if you look at it: Cincy, at Pit, BAL, SF, at IND, at SEA, at BAL ... we're definitely tested
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:44 AM
Myles may be getting tired of not having new faces to put in the Halloween graveyard of players he's sacked,
in a few more weeks when they play Houston, maybe Myles can Add C. J. Stroud and with more than one sack. thumbsup
Posted By: Dawg Citizen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:01 AM
Wow, what a game and a great win by the Browns.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:02 AM
Posted By: Dawg Citizen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by JimDawg
The Browns and Lions are going to the Super Bowl.
I just saw a pig fly so maybe they are.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:15 AM
thats a crazy stat
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:20 AM
Sorry. I didn't mean to go after you.

You are new. There is a lot that you are unaware of.

Q, got me fired up.
Posted By: boofers20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:28 AM
I just know the next 3 games are very winnable (steelers, broncos, and rams), so we need to not take any of them lightly if we want to be a serious contender
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:33 AM
Browns have 8 games remaining in the regular season are 6 and 3 after winning at Baltimore, 4 at home, 4 on the road,

Pittsburgh
At Broncos
At Rams in l a
Jacksonville, in the DAWG POUND
Chicago
At Houston
NY Jets, in Cleveland
and At Cincinnati to finish... schedule game? nanner nanner nanner nanner nanner nanner
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:35 AM
Originally Posted by boofers20
I just know the next 3 games are very winnable (steelers, broncos, and rams), so we need to not take any of them lightly if we want to be a serious contender

I really think this is one area Stefanski does well at. Let's them celebrate wins but quickly brings them back down to earth that they haven't accomplished anything.
Posted By: dawg66 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts


It might have been 4th down now that I think about it but I still would have tried the FG than the Hail-Mary.

Stefanski addressed this in post game presser. He said he thought 60 was too far and the Ravens had a returner near the goal line. I think he went for the safe play.

So he tries a 50/50 jump ball that could have been intercepted and returned for a TD?, the odds were a lot higher with the FG being made than the Hail-Mary being successful. Hopkins is 22 out of 37 from beyond 50+ yards (59.5% success rate) while according to ESPN Hail-Marys are only 9.7% successful.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:49 AM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
If Baltimore loses and we beat Pitt, we would be alone in 1st.

Never would have considered that before game time today! I think that I'm still in shock.....lol.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:00 AM
j/c...

Stefanski pretending he doesn't know who they play next week.

Best part....none of the little Haslam terrors in sight.

Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
j/c

Who was our LT today, Christian #64? Where did he come from? Played not too bad....

He is a former 2018 3rd round draft pick by the Redskins. At that time, Bill Callahan was the Reskins OL coach and Assistant HC. He has battled injuries throughout his career.

Safe to say, Callahan had a large say in the Browns signing Geron Christian.

Many thanks, Milk. He held up well; pass protection by our Oline as a whole was pretty solid....
Posted By: Psydeffect Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:24 AM
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:26 AM
lol the Haslem terrors
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by boofers20
I just know the next 3 games are very winnable (steelers, broncos, and rams), so we need to not take any of them lightly if we want to be a serious contender
Let's take a look,
Ya, snuffed the Bengal in game one, after they had been to the afc championship twice in 2 years.
then, Ya, Had a 2 point lead in the 2nd half at Pitt on MNF< where nobody had beaten them at home on MNF in like 30 years.

Then, ya snuffed the titans which only had one drive, all by ref calls, and only reached the red zone once on a turnover for a drive that went negative nine? yards and ended in a field goal.
then, ya played Baltimore at home, and played the outlier, the rookie @uarterback in his first ever action against, well we all know what Baltimore does on def. year after, year, the game was all b/c of turnovers, 3 to 28 loss

Then, ya Beat the forty niners after falling behind seventeen to 0, not allowing any more points and holding them to 3 and out 6 times in a row in the 2nd half, and their only drive... was b/c of ref penalty help , again.

then, ya had a bye week,
then, ya played a Colts team on the road that was set to play well by law of averages, and the colt came out firing on all cylinders, but by the end of the game, the Browns won that one too.
then, ya played a seahawk team all the way across the country and lost a close one, ... my memory ain't perfect I forget
then, ya had Arizona at home, and the D Coordinator challenged the D, and...
Ya smothered the Cardinals and held them to fifty eight net yards on the Day <<< historic,

then today came, and today, Ya had a player take a turnover to the TD on play number one, ya had a player muff a punt return to give the other team a new down set in your own ten yard line
ya, had the Refs on no fewer than five different times help the other team continue a drive by throwing flags that didn't really occur and were away from the play, 3 in half one, and 2 in half two,

Ya had a coverage breakdown result in a td to your former WR.
But you got your own TD, by Kareem Hunt, and the 2 point conversion, and got a number of field goals
you missed and XP, but
on the final play of the game ya hit a FG and came out with a win on the road in the Div.

Does that sound like contenders? you've had defensive touchdowns in 2 of your last 4 games... If ya can keep it up it does sound like contenders to me.
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:33 AM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

Stefanski pretending he doesn't know who they play next week.

Best part....none of the little Haslam terrors in sight.

its so hard not to like stefanski when you see how he interacts with players and the fact they fight for him. Can he do better in things, absolutely. But he def still has that locker room
Posted By: The Collector Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:36 AM
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts


It might have been 4th down now that I think about it but I still would have tried the FG than the Hail-Mary.

Stefanski addressed this in post game presser. He said he thought 60 was too far and the Ravens had a returner near the goal line. I think he went for the safe play.

So he tries a 50/50 jump ball that could have been intercepted and returned for a TD?, the odds were a lot higher with the FG being made than the Hail-Mary being successful. Hopkins is 22 out of 37 from beyond 50+ yards (59.5% success rate) while according to ESPN Hail-Marys are only 9.7% successful.

Tell me the last time a Hail Mary into the end zone returned for a TD?
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:49 AM
there did seem to be an awfully lot of drama today ... plenty of games seemed to end the exact same way
Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:16 AM
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts


It might have been 4th down now that I think about it but I still would have tried the FG than the Hail-Mary.

Stefanski addressed this in post game presser. He said he thought 60 was too far and the Ravens had a returner near the goal line. I think he went for the safe play.

So he tries a 50/50 jump ball that could have been intercepted and returned for a TD?, the odds were a lot higher with the FG being made than the Hail-Mary being successful. Hopkins is 22 out of 37 from beyond 50+ yards (59.5% success rate) while according to ESPN Hail-Marys are only 9.7% successful.

Tell me the last time a Hail Mary into the end zone returned for a TD?

Let me add to your post Fort….it would've been a career freaking long for Hopkins. Here’s some negative thinking that some of you love. Well, he could’ve have had the field goal blocked and returned for a TD. He could’ve kicked it short and returned for a TD.

Stef’s call was fine. He probably made his decision from either intel from Hopkins and/or Bubba and also knowing his two tackles were out.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

Stefanski pretending he doesn't know who they play next week.

Best part....none of the little Haslam terrors in sight.


They were the first thing I looked for. Hopefully they were left at home.

When Stefanski said he didn't know who we were playing, you can see Bitonio smirking.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:29 AM
haha I noticed bitonio too
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:29 AM
Posted By: jfanent Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:37 AM
That would be much better backgrown music for this Cedrick Tillman block. Yet another great moment in this game.

Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:44 AM
Yeah, but so would Culture Club lmao. Who picks that music?? 🤣

Edit: killer block btw
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:49 AM
Originally Posted by ScottPlayersFacemask
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Originally Posted by dawg66
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think it was 4th down though and we had 0 timeouts


It might have been 4th down now that I think about it but I still would have tried the FG than the Hail-Mary.

Stefanski addressed this in post game presser. He said he thought 60 was too far and the Ravens had a returner near the goal line. I think he went for the safe play.

So he tries a 50/50 jump ball that could have been intercepted and returned for a TD?, the odds were a lot higher with the FG being made than the Hail-Mary being successful. Hopkins is 22 out of 37 from beyond 50+ yards (59.5% success rate) while according to ESPN Hail-Marys are only 9.7% successful.

Tell me the last time a Hail Mary into the end zone returned for a TD?

Let me add to your post Fort….it would've been a career freaking long for Hopkins. Here’s some negative thinking that some of you love. Well, he could’ve have had the field goal blocked and returned for a TD. He could’ve kicked it short and returned for a TD.

Stef’s call was fine. He probably made his decision from either intel from Hopkins and/or Bubba and also knowing his two tackles were out.

I agree. I thought about the block/return possibility that made the HM even more the right choice. I don't mind 2nd guessing, God knows KS has given us plenty of opportunities, but that HM may have been teh safest move. .
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:49 AM
That sounded like Peanuts music.
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:50 AM
11:08 is where I got the first 'funny feeling' that today may be special.

What a play by the Chief!

Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:09 AM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
Rugby scrum indeed, & good that Ford kept churning his legs to give our big fatties a chance to push the pile. We out-muscled them on that play. Or out-gutted them.

Elves imposed their will on that team at the end of that play.
I watched the Ravens fold, and concede field position to CLE, just before DHop's game-winning FG. Every team in the league will see that clip. Cleveland didn't just move the pile on that play... Cleveland moved the entire division on that play.

How many times have we seen CLE on the receiving end of plays that looked just like that? That should tell us something about the team we are watching this season. Character. Heart. Will.

For me, that was the most important play of the game, because I watched BAL crumble/tumble/dumble/grumble beneath the Browns' onslaught. Our men wanted it more than their men, at the exact moment when 'will to win' counted the most. It was THE 'statement moment' in a 'statement game.' -and it happened at the halfway point in the team's schedule.

Because of today's game, The 2023 season is now the Browns' to write for themselves.


Today, The Cleveland Browns established their legitimacy as a serious football franchise. Hard-fought divisional win over the divisional playoff front-runner.
Now, it's time to create momentum.

Goliath lost today. In a high-scoring shootout with David.


I confess, I didn't see this one coming. I predicted a low-scoring, toss-up game. The fact that we beat BAL (in their house) in a high-scoring game blows me away- and gives me confidence v. the remaining schedule.

It tells me that we can run a ground game that nets us strong numbers against statistically strong opponents. CLE ran for $1.76 on the divisional front-runner without Nick Chubb. Browns have a legit coaching staff/scheme.


_________________


Side note: today, DeShaun Watson orchestrated a gritty, clutch, 14-point deficit win against a divisional front-running opponent. He got banged up, beat up- and stayed in the game to help us to this team win. Games like this are why he was brought to Cleveland. Time to start capitalizing on the investment.


.02
Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:38 AM
Agreed. And I don’t mind second guessing or a different opinion, however most of them aren’t close to being logical.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:36 AM
j/c...



Posted By: mgh888 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 07:05 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
11:08 is where I got the first 'funny feeling' that today may be special.

What a play by the Chief!
I feel exactly the same way - Njoku may have had better games statistically - but (outside of one bad drop) he was outstanding today and that play was the epitome of some of the character and toughness that seems to have been missing in many or most of our teams since 1999. Tillman's block on Van Noy was another example - commentators seemed to think it was an illgal blindside or cutback block? IDK ... I do know I loved it. Nearly taunting - standing over an opponent you've just nailed for a split second has drawn plenty of flags in games I have watched.
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 08:10 AM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Great stats - gutted this out even though he was clearly hurt - and hard to define how clutch some of those plays he made with his arm and feet were.... and the TD pass to Moore was exceptional QB play, scrambling but always looking for a receiver to get open.

Baltimore is a good team - we had back up tackles - the play in this game gives me more hope for Watson to be the sort of QB that we traded for when we gave up those picks. The slow start still a concern, but hopefully we turned a corner today. Hope we keep on keeping on.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 10:19 AM
j/c:

Right now I feel as long as Watson can play well and Garrett, Cooper & Watson all stay healthy the sky is the limit for our Browns.
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 11:07 AM
Jc

Woke up this morning in a great mood haha!!

DT, y’all realized that just this season alone, we beat two of the hottest teams in the league going into Sundays? San Fran and Baltimore.

We can run with ANYBODY

I haven’t been the nicest to Stefanski, but he’s showing why he was coach of the year and should be on the next cover of GQ!!
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 11:17 AM
I feel ya Swish !!

Having coffee at work feeling like I'm sitting on a cloud

Feeling high from such a great comeback win !!

This is what being a Browns fan is all about

This kind of feeling on a Monday Morning

Let's have many more of these

Please !!! smile
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 11:18 AM
Things are looking up.

The team gutted it out when teams from the past would have folded.

Watson was great in the 2nd half. The arm is better and he is now sure of the offense. I feel like the real D Watson just stood up.

We all love Chubb, but our run game this year has hardly missed him. The rotation worked well enough and now Ford is stepping forward as the lead back. J Ford is turning in to a very good NFL back. There will be no need to rush Chubb back in to action next year.

Njoku played great. I have never been his biggest fan but the guy is starting to play at a high level.

The D...well..what a difference a D coordinator made. Everybody on the D is playing at levels we could hardly imagine last year. Joe Woods has to be looking at our D today and feel somewhat impotent. A few players were exchanged, but not that many. Look at Clowney with the Ravens. He is playing like the impact player he can be, but here, Woods had him setting edges all game long.

It's looking good folks.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:34 PM
how about that win probability chart? Just incredible
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 12:38 PM
Damn, now that was a win. Loved it. Tough game,, full of potholes that we could have fallen into.. and did. But pulling it out in the end, that was special....
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:02 PM
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:10 PM
Simply.....superb fan reaction. Carry on friends....
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:10 PM
Jake Trotter
@Jake_Trotter
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5m
AFC North playoff odds, per ESPN FPI
Ravens: 89.1% (49.2 to win division)
Browns: 78.3% (28.8)
Steelers: 52.9% (15.6)
Bengals: 33.8% (6.4)
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
We all love Chubb, but our run game this year has hardly missed him.

Dunno about that, 'peen. Just image how much better we would have been if we still had him......
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:16 PM
Statement win for the Browns. Down so many key injuries this year w/ Chubb, Conklin, Wills, Jones to beat the Ravens at home when there were so many hurdles this team needed toclear in order to win. This team has heart, never quits, and made key plays went it counted.

- For the most part, the offensive line held up outside of Hudson who I thought had a pretty rough game. The LT, Christian, didn't get his name called much, if at all, and that is usually a good sign for a lineman.

- Jerome Ford ran more in between the tackles, and whaddyaknow, had a really good game. He must have a dawgtalkers account.

- Gutsy performance by Watson to rebound after a bad first half and an injury to carry the team for the second half. He was the better QB yesterday and we needed that perfect 2nd have performance.

- Kudos to Newsome for his first INT to be a TD. The secondary stepped up after injuries to Ward and Delpit. Before going out, I thought Delpit was playing extremely well.

- One thing not mentioned is this coaching staff's ability to get the team to regroup and focus after halftime. Not sure if it's is motivational coach speak or overall in-game adjustments, but they've done a great job in that regard.

- Njoku is a beast and glad to see the team targeting him more these past few weeks. Would still like to see more of this in the RZ, but I'll take what I can get to this point.

- I hope the players don't get too overconfident and listen to the tone of Stefanski's post-game words. Focus. Stay on task. Never quit. Execute.

- Some people are going to be upset when Berry and Stefanski sign extensions.


Week 11 vs Steelers

Browns -3.5
Over/Under 38.5
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:24 PM
I'm curious to see the grading performance on the LT from yesterday ... I don't even remember him being mentioned, which is good
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:34 PM
One thing that has been kinda overlooked in this glorious win.

The blocked field goal by Elliott.
Posted By: mac Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:36 PM
After watching the final play of yesterday's game, I simply sat there and allowed myself to take it all in...

I had a feeling of "satisfaction" ... they did not give up..!

From the beginning of the game, the Browns were forced to fight like hell for yesterday's victory.

The offense, the defense and the special teams refused to give up, winning that game on the last play.

Never give up..!
Posted By: BADdog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
We all love Chubb, but our run game this year has hardly missed him.

Dunno about that, 'peen. Just image how much better we would have been if we still had him......

maybe 2 games better wink
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
One thing that has been kinda overlooked in this glorious win.

The blocked field goal by Elliott.
great point
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
We all love Chubb, but our run game this year has hardly missed him.

Dunno about that, 'peen.

You're right, you don't know. Neither do I.

I am just looking at the stats to date, and they seem fairly comparable. It's not like we went from having a potent rushing attack to crap.

We all miss Chubb but we aren't having trouble running the ball.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:16 PM
Here is another.

Lost in Translation.

Kevin Stefanski going for TWO with a DW qb draw.

Where is all the smack about KS now? (not from you)
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:19 PM
Cannot be proven but IMO we would not have lost the Steeler game or the Seattle game with Nick.

Think about that. 8-1
Posted By: WSU Willie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:25 PM
What a great win! I'm still trying to figure out what happened? Not the end result, but what changed from a putrid 1st half to a terrific 2nd half? I watched it live...then re-watched the 2nd half...then re-watched the whole game...I can't figure it out.

Did the light bulb(s) come on? Did the dinged up DW4 shoulder loosen all the way up? Did it take a quarter or so to get back into it after an early 14-0 deficit? Did we make a bunch of 'adjustments'? Or did we simply start to execute better? I did notice a lot less trickery and fewer east/west running plays (someone ^ mentioned Ford running more between the tackles).

Overcame: 14-0 deficit... PS LT who played quite well after being here for only a week...not-awful play by Hudson (yes, he made mistakes...but he's a developmental guy who plays hard and didn't get his QB killed)...(4) big defensive stops killed by holding/contact penalties ((3) of which were BS and one an interception in the endzone)...a muffed punt return for a fumble...starting CB out injured in-game...starting S then also out injured in-game.

How does a veteran QB go from awful, awful throws in the first half to perfection in the 2nd half? Some of those 1st half throws were incredibly bad...then several throws in the 2nd half were incredibly good and clutch too!. Some clutch, tough runs and also that crazy-bad slide short of the sticks? Watson went from looking 'washed-out' to looking like a top tier QB in the span of 30-40 game minutes.

Solid...SOLID performances by Njoku, Ford, LG/C/RG, Cooper, Moore and the entire defense AND several backups...and Hopkins with the game winner walkoff... What the hell happened yesterday?

Lastly...if you re-watch the game, look closely at the Rats players' faces and body language...Harbaugh too...starting towards the end of Q3. It's like they knew a buzzsaw was coming and they couldn't do anything about it. It was glorious.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:31 PM
It really is the Tale of Two Watsons this season. The way he hit Cooper and looked off the coverage was Brady-esque, but that first half for the most part was god-awful. Second half was legendary. Like, bro, just stop doing this to me. Please just be the second half version, haha.

I think the thing I liked the most was how they bullied the Ravens. Smith taking down their RT, Tillman taking down Van Noy, who must have him by 50-60 lbs, the pile push, Njoku abusing their secondary. That's what you need to do to take down the top dogs like the Steelers and the Ravens in the division. You have to bully them. You have to intimidate them.

I just hope we can continue that style next weekend.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 02:45 PM
I think we really started to figure out attacking their front 7 in the run game ... and that really got Baltimore on its heels defensively. They weren't going to stop us, so all it was going to take was our defense to stop them (which we did multiple AND it turned into a pick 6)

I also think that our defense did a great job of bottling up Lamar and keeping him insulated
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:03 PM
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:15 PM
you love to see it
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:16 PM
It was the tail of two halves. The first half was a disaster any way you look at it. But somehow they woke up at half time and looked like a totally different team in the second half.

Thanks goes out to Hopkins for keeping the Browns in the game during the first half. Thanks goes out to Newsome for the int. return for a TD which put us in position to win the game. Thanks goes out to Myles who had one helluva game. And thanks goes out to watson for waking up at half time. Had you have played like you did in the first half the Browns would have lost this game in a landslide.
Posted By: Swish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 03:22 PM
Jc

Random thought, but the TD celebration with newsome had me wondering if guys watch boy band music videos and go “yo yo yo that’s the celly right there!!! We copying this move!!”
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:07 PM
uh, what else is there to do all summer during the camps?
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:12 PM
rofl
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:22 PM
Today is a feel-good day after that great win yesterday. I feel calm and that doesn't happen very often especially with my Browns. I'm going to enjoy it for the next few days before I start getting stressed over the Steelers. Enjoy everyone!!! smile
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:36 PM
The Ratbirds got Elfed! One for Ravenkiller. Catch Fire! Great big win.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
I'm going to enjoy it for the next few days before I start getting stressed over the Steelers. Enjoy everyone!!! smile

No way I'm getting stressed over the Steelers game

The Browns are going to smack them around and take another win

On their home field and in front of the fans

Only one way to think now

AFCN Title !!!
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:41 PM
Being a Browns fan for 56 years it's just a natural emotion for me LOL!!!!
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 04:55 PM
It must have been a helluva halftime locker room speach.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:03 PM
another thing I've said and noticed ... and it held true yesterday:

Watson is a slow starter and a confidence player. Once he feels it, he's tough to stop. And he kinda needs to be hit and knocked around a bit to feel it
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:34 PM
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#Browns Kevin Stefanski said Deshaun Watson will have an MRI today on his left ankle. No results yet.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:38 PM
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#Browns coach Kevin Stefanski says he's not sure if OL Michael Dunn (calf) will come off IR this week but is getting better and better.


we could use Dunn
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:46 PM
Momentum is often spoken of in sports. Yet it's hard to really define.

A baseball manager once said momentum is the next day's starter.

In football momentum is considered part of the game. Yesterday the Ravens got up 14 in the blink of an eye. They were playing with their families in the crowd.

They were leading in the third by 15. What happened?

Cleveland took over the game. In doing so they reshuffled the deck in the North. Before we play the Steelers Sunday. We could be playing for first place.

Do the Browns now have the momentum? Does DW now have that confidence? Does the team now believe the Browns are unstoppable?

Low key KS when DW threw the pic six. Did anyone notice him as he faced Deshaun coming off the field? He was lightly clapping. Telling Deshaun "we got this." It was KS calling the QB draw for two points.

Did the team quit on KS when everything went dark numerous times in the game?

Enjoy the week. Feel good about this team. We have waited a long time to feel good. It is ok now.
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:53 PM
I've read a lot of criticism of KS on this board including calls to fire him. There were times I wondered why he called the plays he did, the Seattle game comes to mind, and why we gave up on the run so fast in some games, but the one thing I'll say the players love playing for him and they go to war for him. Case in point yesterday's game. After 14-0 I thought we were doomed but the players rallied and played their butts off for him. That speaks volumes!!!
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 05:54 PM
ICYMI:

Garrett now has 11 sacks on the season. He joined Reggie White, John Randle, DeMarcus Ware, Jared Allen, Bruce Smith and Lawrence Taylor as the only players to have six consecutive seasons with at least 10 sacks.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:04 PM
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The top 5 grades on the #Browns defense in the win over the Ravens:

1). CB Greg Newsome ll - 79.6
2). CB Mike Ford - 76.8
3). DE Za’Darius Smith - 72.4
4). LB Sione Takitaki - 70.8
5). DE Myles Garrett - 68.9
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:08 PM
That's quite an accomplishment by Garrett. Kareem Hunt has also scored a TD for five games in a row.

I believe Garrett will be the next and only the second HOF'er on the Browns since their return in 1999.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:09 PM
MoreForYouCleveland
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The top 5 grades on the #Browns offense via
@PFF
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1). WR Amari Cooper - 75.5
2). TE Harrison Bryant - 70. 6
3). RB Jerome Ford - 69.6
4). LT Geron Christian - 69.6
5). LG Joel Bitonio - 65.7
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:15 PM
"What is a Mike Ford?"
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:18 PM
Well, he’s not an Edsel!!
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by WSU Willie
4) big defensive stops killed by holding/contact penalties ((3) of which were BS and one an interception in the endzone)...a muffed punt return for a fumble...starting CB out injured in-game...starting S then also out injured in-game.
Man we got hurt by some BS calls yesterday - ticky tacky calls that 95% of the time quite rightly don't get called. On the interception in the end zone that was called back - [1] I want to again highlight the big hit laid on Lamar by Mike Ford ... kudos for a legal hit on a QB who didn't go out of bounds but wanted to gain another couple yards with a shimmy upfield instead of heading straight out. I don't know if it was a Browns game or a different game this season where commentators mentioned that whichever QB had just done it was going to get hit sometime if they kept doing that and that in effect it wasn't in the spirit of the game because defenders are so reluctant to hit running QB's in that situation ... so Kudos Mike Ford. [2] Of all the penalties we got hit with - while that hurt more than any, on the replay they did show that one of the defenders was yanking on a receivers jersey into the end zone, didn't let go and that penalty to my eyes was legit.
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
"What is a Mike Ford?"

Isn't he the guy who knocked Lamar on his backside out of bounds with a big hit, then shortly after, picked off what appeared to be a rattled Lamar Jackson?
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 06:42 PM
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Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 07:20 PM
One other thought - whoever the guy is that filled in at LT needs to jump up past Hudson on the depth chart.
Posted By: Deepsouthdawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 07:26 PM
A random thought here.
It very well could have been a blessing Hop misses the game tying XP.
By missing it we played to get into FG range at the end instead of likely playing for OT had we been tied 31-31.
Just a thought maybe we would or maybe not but I'm glad how it turned out.
Great win and GO BROWNS!
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 07:31 PM
One other thought - as they keep occurring to me - Jonathan Vilma has absolutely no business ever letting his voice be broadcast during a game again. That was one of the worst color commentaries I have heard ever.
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 07:55 PM
Regarding the comeback, I was thinking this morning that to me the comeback is more impressive because of how slowly it took us to get going, I mean 14 point leads can be erased but normally you need a quick big play or 2. The Browns couldn't even punch it in the endzone in the first half.

It was all field goals up to that point for us, so when OBJ's TD made it a 15 point game, nothing had happened to that point to inspire the team to think they could score at least twice. They just kept fighting.
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 07:59 PM
What a difference a year makes, eh? It's a different ballgame when you have a solid D and a kicker that makes kicks. Not very often you can "slow play" a double-digit deficit against a team like the Ravens.
Posted By: FATE Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Deepsouthdawg
A random thought here.
It very well could have been a blessing Hop misses the game tying XP.
By missing it we played to get into FG range at the end instead of likely playing for OT had we been tied 31-31.
Just a thought maybe we would or maybe not but I'm glad how it turned out.
Great win and GO BROWNS!

I thought the very same thing. thumbsup
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 08:16 PM
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My favorite play.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 08:23 PM
That's some team work going on right there.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 08:42 PM
Originally Posted by dawglover05
One other thought - whoever the guy is that filled in at LT needs to jump up past Hudson on the depth chart.
Agreed. I thought he played very well, all things considered.
Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
Regarding the comeback, I was thinking this morning that to me the comeback is more impressive because of how slowly it took us to get going, I mean 14 point leads can be erased but normally you need a quick big play or 2. The Browns couldn't even punch it in the endzone in the first half.

It was all field goals up to that point for us, so when OBJ's TD made it a 15 point game, nothing had happened to that point to inspire the team to think they could score at least twice. They just kept fighting.

I agree, this was the single most important aspect of yesterdays game imo. We had every imaginable reason to pack it in yesterday but we didn’t. The best team in football up until yesterday, at home, almost perfectly healthy against our pretty unhealthy O, a long history of owning us especially in their house, down 14 and 15 for over 59 minutes of the game... and yet!

Look, good teams don’t always win obviously. But they rarely collapse or get embarrassed. Never more than very rarely if ever. They’re much more likely to claw back and keep it interesting, even if they don’t have the talent. They don’t rely on hope, luck and getting breaks. They make their luck, they don’t hardly ever just roll over. See: this years Steelers. In years past, this game would have been over halfway thru the 1st quarter for us, all our talent be damned.

I really wasn’t sure we were capable of being a truly good team until yesterday. The kind that comes back when they have every reason not to. I thought we were the kind of team that has a good deal of talent but that truly good teams can come back against and take us out. The kind of team that beats lesser teams but needs lucky breaks, trick plays or for the other team to shoot themselves in the face to get over on the truly good teams.

We still have a lot of problems on O, but I think we answered some of the most important questions yesterday. My season outlook just changed very dramatically in 1 half, which never happens btw.
Posted By: BADdog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.
my wife mentioned the birds were holding Ford up. If one of them goes low he goes down. Glad they didnt think of that wink
Posted By: BADdog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

Can we just call this play The Ford from now on?
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 09:39 PM
j/c:

I usually record all the games and watch 'em one more time before the week is over... This game I got so pissed off I turned the recording off and deleted it, midway through. Big mistake!

I watched the game highlights on youtube. It obviously isn't quite the same as watching the full game, but still enjoyable to watch.

If interested:

Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by BADdog
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.
my wife mentioned the birds were holding Ford up. If one of them goes low he goes down. Glad they didnt think of that wink

Indeed. On the other hand, if you're that guy you get trampled and fallen on by about 7-8 big people..
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 10:19 PM
The gutsy run by Watson ON A GIMPY ANKLE on the last drive in the 4th to get us a first down and field goal position was AMAZING...

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Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 10:43 PM
Originally Posted by Deepsouthdawg
A random thought here.
It very well could have been a blessing Hop misses the game tying XP.
By missing it we played to get into FG range at the end instead of likely playing for OT had we been tied 31-31.
Just a thought maybe we would or maybe not but I'm glad how it turned out.
Great win and GO BROWNS!
I said the same thing when we got the ball back ... especially after it was 2nd and 19. I said "If this was tied, we'd be content to punt it back"
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

Running over them when we needed to. Beauty play!!
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/13/23 11:39 PM
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 12:07 AM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

That radio booth lacks the excitement that the one and only

Jim Donovan could bring !
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 12:09 AM
Victory Monday is very sweet today.

I had the game on in the background while I was doing some other stuff in the garage. I wandered into the house in the 4th quarter after the interception by Newsome, who was shot out of a cannon to the end zone. Great recognition for a "backup" player according to clueless Vilma.

Njoku had his best game as a Brown and literally carried the team to victory.
Same for the rugby play with Ford at the end of the game. If you want to know something, Moore was pushing as well. Cred points.
Watson had a few throws that were highlight worthy, and that is now a couple of times that I have to say that was impressive. Until recently he has been pretty mediocre.
Watson was also willing to play and was gutting it out. Cooper is a fine player as well.

For all the talk of the defense to shut another team down, you still have to be able to compete in games that are not low scoring affairs. The Browns D was active, the Raisins D was active too. It was a fun watch. Good football is better than bad football as proven by the Jets/Raiders game.

The only stat that really matters is the W.

I will take an ugly 59:20 being behind every time victory over a last minute loss every time. It was unexpected.

See LA (Not San Diego) Chargers. Herbert and Allen are great, but they can't win a close game.

New signature line after visiting the Gameday thread.... sheesh.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by WooferDawg
New signature line after visiting the Gameday thread.... sheesh.

You should see all his posts about Garrett. One of the most dominant defensive players of our generation, a HOF talent, and this guy thinks he's nothing but a 1 move loudmouth.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 12:47 AM
we missed Jim D yesterday
Posted By: jeepnstein Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

Word. That's football.
Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 01:56 AM
Some miscellaneous random thoughts, since most have covered various highlights:

- Something I'm interested in, however we probably won't know the real reason. (this is a good thing) What got into our players attitudes this game? Was it a coach or player speech? Did a Ravens player tell a Browns player a Yo Momma burn? We see some celebration and etc in games. However, the team played like bullies yesterday. Tillman had a pancake block where he stood over and taunted Van Noy. Teller had a pancake block on #99 and Hudson stood over top of him flexing. Ford had the hard hit on LJ by the sideline. I really don't remember seeing our players with so many taunts/flexing over a block...and I don't have a problem with that. Though, while it was happening I was laughing but also yelling - the play is still going on!

- I don't remember seeing this many games in a row where a D-lineman from either side bats a ball for an int (or in last weeks case an offensive TD)

- Watson had some big time throws, one I want to highlight is 2nd and 19 2:22 left in the game down 31-30. DW with a 17 yard completion to Cooper to make it a manageable 3rd and 2. Big time throw, big time moment.

- The Ravens drive after the fumbled punt by Proche was annoying as hell by the Refs with the penalties. We stopped them! No. TD Ravens! No. Interception Browns! No. The frustration of all the up and down emotions, I was to the point where I said out loud, just give them the damn TD so we can move on with the game already.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 02:34 AM
I've seen a lot more balls batted by DL too .. it must be an emphasis by DC's. It's almost like they want them volleyballed up
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 02:51 AM
The best part about the "tush push" or the "scrum" was tiny Elijah Moore in there pushing and Hudson's reaction after.

Really awesome to see the toughness and resiliency of the team. It's fun to root for a team like that.

We have legit tough, not soft guys on this team both mentally and physically in Hunt, Njoku, Cooper, Delpit. I think they are great culture setters and instill toughness in the rest of the team.

I have not understood the Ford criticisms to date as he has been really really solid. Now all of a sudden people want to sing his praises. Guy has been really good all season. Not perfect, not Chubb, but a real NFL running back. I think people lose sight of that.

100% blessing in disguise the extra point was missed. Browns would have played for OT.

My cousins were complaining about Myles before those back to back sacks. His PFF grade.was meh. But I thought he looked more explosive than ever coming off the ball. The issue is he sometimes guesses pass when it's run and you can run straight at his gap. Those back to back sacks were huge. He's making so many game impacting plays this year. He's being talked about today as MVP. Not DPOY but MVP. Well deserved and it's awesome to see the best players make the best plays when it matters most.

Division is there for the taking. I don't think Schwartz or Stefanski will let the team get ahead of themselves.

A lot of sports radio today was about how the Ravens gave the game away. For the first time since 1999 Browns have a legit good team. The 2020 covid team caught lightning in a bottle. This is different.

I love how I didn't see any kids in the locker room and how Stefanski DID NOT give them today off.

Onward. Let's win the division.
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 04:16 AM
I noticed Moore pushing the pile as well. I know he has taken a lot a grief, but I want to re think that now.

Hudson gets a lot of grief as well, but he and Teller were in the middle of it. Botino got a few more yards once he joined.

I did not see players as much as a team that was willing itself to win. Playing hard, all out.

Same with the reaction to the missed XP by Hopkins. Numerous players approached him and I guess their words were you saved us before, now we will give you a chance for redemption… or something like that.

Hopkins got his chance and the Raisins lost.

I did not like the Ford stat bashing of last week, and thought he played well.

There is a difference between giving a game away and getting beat. The Raisins got beat by a better performance by the Browns.

Remember the Jets game last year? That was a give away.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 05:02 AM
You’re off the fire the coach train? Off the Watson stinks train?
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

That pile was beginning to stalemate until Bitonio threw his big ass into the mix.
Watch the 'momentum change' when he got in there...


Browns showed right then that they wanted it more.
Elves earned that win.

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Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 02:04 PM
If ever there was a game that was earned.

That Ravens game was it.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 02:08 PM
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 02:48 PM
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
that was one of my favorite plays.. its why you need big WR in the run game too.. I can't stand Van Noy and it made it even sweeter, and then he looked even worse trying to start something because he got laid out and picked up an unsportsmanlike.
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

I loved seeing that Raven get his clock cleaned. Really glad Tillmann didn't stand over him and "taunt" him after for a penalty. Also loved it when he headbutted Tillmann for a 15 yard penalty.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 04:17 PM
I truly understand his perspective.

The only thing I can say is: don't suffer before it is necessary because it is wasted suffering.

I will wait for the game to be played.

I am not into predicting games. Seems pointless to me. Games by nature are designed to go either way. That is what games are and why they are played. That is why we pay to watch them because you don't know the outcome.

I never buy that you are supposed to win. Why? Is some supreme being who controls outcomes supposed to favor you?

You win because on that day you were better than the opposition.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

That was all on our guards, too. Watch the pile after Teller hits it, and then watch it again after Bitonio hits it.
Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

I heard we can get a sixth rounder for that kind of play
naughtydevil
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 05:14 PM
I heard that he would first had to have a season catching for over 800 before they would give a sixth rounder for him.
Posted By: Frenchy Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 05:53 PM


Njoku wins the angry run of the week
Posted By: oobernoober Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by The Collector
all divison affair next week. Ravens v Bengals, Browns v Steelers...

Ravens, Browns, and Steelers all 6-3, Bengals 5-4

so by end of next week, one team will be 7-3, one team will be 6-4, and there's potential for the other two teams to be 6-4 or 7-3 and 5-5
unless ties... and that would make this even funnier

I'm almost scared for the Bengals. Ravens are going to eat them alive after their loss.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 07:10 PM
Hopefully, the Bengals can punch them in the nose too. We’ll see.
Posted By: mac Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by dawglover05
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

That was all on our guards, too. Watch the pile after Teller hits it, and then watch it again after Bitonio hits it.

Here are the numbers of the Browns players who were involved in the play that I call "The BIG PUSH"...#s- 34, 85, 19, 8, 64, 66, 77, 55, 75, 2 & 4.

I had to rerun the video a few times to identify all the Browns players who were involved in that play and I was able to identify all 11 players on the offensive unit. Any more numbers and the Browns could have been flagged for too many players on the field.

IMO, that play was symbolic of the type of effort the Browns needed to win the game...it took the entire team..!

Posted By: hitt Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 07:23 PM
JMHO, Hope he was coached HARD for his STUPIDITY. We could have EASILY gotten a taunting call- small things matter and as a 3rd round BUST so far, he sure as heck shouldn't gloat because he FINALLY contributed......GO Browns!!!

The TEAM should fine him for STUPIDITY.
Posted By: BADdog Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 08:28 PM
It was brief he looked down at him as he was stepping over him. Not really taunting.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 08:36 PM
Kyle is amped up!
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 09:00 PM
It is an act that has turned into something from the circus.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by hitt
JMHO, Hope he was coached HARD for his STUPIDITY. We could have EASILY gotten a taunting call- small things matter and as a 3rd round BUST so far, he sure as heck shouldn't gloat because he FINALLY contributed......GO Browns!!!

The TEAM should fine him for STUPIDITY.

Watch it in real time. It was very quick.
Posted By: mac Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by ScottPlayersFacemask
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

I heard we can get a sixth rounder for that kind of play
naughtydevil

The Browns have been on the receiving end of a few blocks similar to the hit that Tillman made on the Ravens #50 without a penalty being called.

Many of the replays show a slow-motion version that makes the play look like Tillman was taunting, but if you watch the replay done at regular speed, Tillman stands over #50 for a second and begins to look for someone else to block. Had Tillman continued to stand over Mr Raven and not began looking for someone else to block I could understand a flag for taunting.

Also, Tillman made a good block, getting his head in front of the Raven with his helmet on the front side of #50s shoulder pad. I thought the official made a good "no call" given the situation...jmo
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 10:23 PM
Maybe Tillman was afraid he knocked him TFO, you know, showing concern for a peer. 😂
Posted By: jfanent Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
Maybe Tillman was afraid he knocked him TFO, you know, showing concern for a peer. 😂



Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by mac
Originally Posted by dawglover05
Originally Posted by EveDawg
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My favorite play.

That was all on our guards, too. Watch the pile after Teller hits it, and then watch it again after Bitonio hits it.

Here are the numbers of the Browns players who were involved in the play that I call "The BIG PUSH"...#s- 34, 85, 19, 8, 64, 66, 77, 55, 75, 2 & 4.

I had to rerun the video a few times to identify all the Browns players who were involved in that play and I was able to identify all 11 players on the offensive unit. Any more numbers and the Browns could have been flagged for too many players on the field.

IMO, that play was symbolic of the type of effort the Browns needed to win the game...it took the entire team..!


Is that Clowney running in after the play is over,? Where was he? That play took forever so maybe he went into the locker room to take a leak when Ford was first hit, came back out and saw it still going forward.
Posted By: mac Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
Maybe Tillman was afraid he knocked him TFO, you know, showing concern for a peer. 😂

lamp...I didn't consider that..Tillman might have been showing concern for a fellow Union Member.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/14/23 11:26 PM
I was being sarcastic, mac. But you could be right. Although he was probably surprised he brought some noise to Von noy
Posted By: mac Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/15/23 10:48 AM
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I was being sarcastic, mac.

lamp...me too..just being sarcastic.. thumbsup grin
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/15/23 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
that was one of my favorite plays.. its why you need big WR in the run game too.. I can't stand Van Noy and it made it even sweeter, and then he looked even worse trying to start something because he got laid out and picked up an unsportsmanlike.

If it wasn't, it was very close to a blindside block, and should have received a flag for taunting.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/17/23 12:58 AM
Can't recall if this was mentioned, but kudos to Ogbo Okoronkwo for the getting his hands up on that tip to allow the Greg Newsome Pick 6.

The dude has been worth EVERY penny so far.
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/17/23 03:48 AM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Can't recall if this was mentioned, but kudos to Ogbo Okoronkwo for the getting his hands up on that tip to allow the Greg Newsome Pick 6.

The dude has been worth EVERY penny so far.

Okoronkwo has been outstanding. I actually think Lamar bounced that pass of his helmet, making this the third game in a row in which the Browns have had game-changing plays doink off helmets.
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/17/23 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Can't recall if this was mentioned, but kudos to Ogbo Okoronkwo for the getting his hands up on that tip to allow the Greg Newsome Pick 6.

The dude has been worth EVERY penny so far.

He has been a MASSIVE boost; a force multiplier.
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/17/23 05:45 PM
Ogbo has been absolutely awesome. Great signing.

As has Tomlinson, Smith, Hurst, and Harris.

And how about the development out of nowhere of Elliot. Seems like a light bulb went off.

I think Berry is doing an awesome job personally. See weakness, fix weakness.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/17/23 05:49 PM
Overall Berry has done a fine job.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/19/23 10:27 PM
looking at our additions: Z, Ogbo, Hopkins, Tomlinson ... coupled with some nice drafting of Jones, Newsome, Emerson .. he's done a good job especially considering our QB/Chubb out
Posted By: bonefish Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/20/23 01:24 AM
Back to back "Rematch" wins. One against the division leading Ravens on their field.

And a rematch with the team we were tied with for second place. Nick came out of the tunnel leading the team on crutches.

That's right the Browns just beat the Ravens and the Steelers back to back in a rematch.

On August 28, the Chargers traded Dustin Hopkins to the Cleveland Browns for a 2025 seventh-round pick after he lost his starting job to Cameron Dicker.

Berry missed on York and struck gold on Hopkins.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Postgame Thoughts - 11/20/23 09:02 PM
Kinda looks like the Chargers got Dickered over.
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