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Re: What If? IrishDawg42 09/18/25 04:29 AM
I think anyone that believes decisions will be made in order to save the Browns playoff chances are delusional. At 0-2, this team isn’t making the playoffs. This team drafted two mid-round QBs. There is speculation that they will be evaluated as potential future starters.

We have two first round picks in 2026.

These are the facts.

At the end of the day, the draft is the draft, now they are pros and need to be treated and evaluated as pros. As for the “why” a player gets drafted where they do, there are so many factors that determine it. You say early picks are there because they are considered more “ready”, I call BS. Many first round picks are a reach and fail because they are over drafted based on a perceived high ceiling. In the case of Gabriel, it is physical shortcomings. Gabriel had more experience than any other rookie QB in this draft class and many other draft classes. He is more “ready” than the typical draft pick.

This team doesn’t have a rookie to evaluate, they have TWO rookies to evaluate. Out of the two, Gabriel is expected to be the most ready AND better suited QB based on draft position AND all information coming out of Berea, including current depth status on the roster. So, it makes sense that he would be the first up in evaluation.

If they don’t think he is ready to play, why bring him in at all last week? Not only did they replace a healthy Flacco, he showed the game isn’t too big for him.

If the Browns are considering either or both rookies as potential future starters, they need to be evaluated. Not for miraculously turning this into a playoff caliber offense, but for the intangibles needed to lead them through development. If the intangibles aren’t there, they need to evaluate the 2026 class to determine who is worth what draft stock to get a potential starter. It’s imperative we have that information going into the offseason.The more games you can get the better the data.

Lastly, those saying throwing him in too early could “ruin” him… if he doesn’t get a fair chance at evaluating his skills, they may have to draft a high pick anyway and he may never get another chance. He has said he’s ready, the team traded away a veteran backup and gave him the job, so they think he is ready if Flacco goes down to injury. If Flacco can’t get the job done, then it’s time to begin the evaluation.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians YTownBrownsFan 09/18/25 04:20 AM
4 1/2 games out, with 4 more against the Tigers coming up ..... and 11 overall left in the regular season.

I really, really like our pitching right now, and we are also getting some timely hitting.
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Re: Cleveland Guardians superbowldogg 09/18/25 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
One more day at a time ...... Guards win 4-0. wink


Heck yeah!!
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Re: Cleveland Guardians YTownBrownsFan 09/18/25 02:14 AM
One more day at a time ...... Guards win 4-0. wink
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA Bull_Dawg 09/18/25 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Jester
1, I imagine because they are really good lawyers and she can afford them.

2, the link to the 2nd twitter post, try actually opening it up:

"7/ The FINAL BLOW: The "trust" conversation with the Secretary. She claims the Secretary said he "could not trust" her. Mullin reveals the truth: "That isn't how that conversation went. And you know that, don't you?" He indicates the meeting was recorded, catching her in a lie."

If a recording exists, let's hear it.
Prove her right or prove her wrong
Either way, let's hear the truth

3, I don't know what YMMV means


...But can she afford them because she's on the take from corporations that produce vaccines? Or is big Pharma just providing the lawyers?

I started out intending to put that in purple, but honestly neither would surprise me. My faith in institutions and people keeps getting lower.
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Re: Quarterback height Bull_Dawg 09/18/25 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
I just hate the thought of us turning over the reins to a rookie. Not fair to him but the entire team. If our offence continues to look like slop, we probably will.
But it’s not just Joe.

The line hasn’t been good and wide receivers struggle to get open. Jeudy has been playing “Quincy Morgan football”, to quote drop king Q from 2004 or so.

....did you have to put slop and Joe in close proximity in my brain?

Every time I see Flacco I'm going to have the Sloppy Joe jingle going in my head now.

Edit: or probably this
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA Jester 09/18/25 01:03 AM
I don't know if link is the right terminology
Could be an ID ten T error on my part.

So there was a recording without audio?
That seems sus
Agree that you can't trust any of these politicians
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Re: Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah, source says Bull_Dawg 09/18/25 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
J/C

Typical political discourse. Attack the individual instead of admitting they have a point. No wonder the country is where it is.

Wonder where we all picked that up at. This [censored] starts at the top.

It starts at the bottom with what people on both sides allow and/or excuse. Trump is just taking advantage of the prevailing attitudes.

That's BS

The hate was always there. Always. But it was Surpressed until Trump made it ok to let it out.. This is 100% on Trump....

Trump didn't make it okay. He wasn't the first. He signed no executive order. It's on everyone that lets hate out or excuses those that let hate out. If "the people" collectively hadn't voted for him, twice, he'd have no power.

Hate is still not okay. This using Trump as an excuse to spew hate is BS. (On both sides)

People have their own brains. People make their own choices. People decide what they feel is acceptable. Sadly, a lot of people accept a lot of BS.

Blaming a boogie man and holding no one else accountable for their actions is BS.
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Re: Quarterback height FATE 09/18/25 12:43 AM
I'm not in love with it either. Flacco will have a convenient minor injury by week 7 if this keeps up. That way you don't look like fools if you have to pull the rookie back out.

Mark my words.
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA FATE 09/18/25 12:40 AM
Oh yeah. Markwayne later said he was informed that there was no audio. Probably made it up as you can't trust any of these politicians any farther than you can throw them.
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA FATE 09/18/25 12:39 AM
Uh, okay. Still a bad look in my opinion.

I guess I was confused by "link", you're obviously talking about the body of the post, no problem. I don't think it truly "exposes" anything either. As I said in my last post, this will be a he said/she said anyway, and RFK can fire anyone he wants to. She's trying to create a conflict and outrage with her "scientific integrity" language, but most people know there's not much integrity there. And again, much of the testimony is rooted in the political culture at the CDC anyway... which makes her "case" look even weaker.

My bad: Your Mileage May Vary is old school internet, straight from the 70s and 80s car ads to the 90s internet.
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Re: Quarterback height lampdogg 09/18/25 12:37 AM
I just hate the thought of us turning over the reins to a rookie. Not fair to him but the entire team. If our offence continues to look like slop, we probably will.
But it’s not just Joe.

The line hasn’t been good and wide receivers struggle to get open. Jeudy has been playing “Quincy Morgan football”, to quote drop king Q from 2004 or so.
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Re: Quarterback height bonefish 09/18/25 12:29 AM
Herb Edwards says he reminds him of Sipe.

I can see that comparison. Gabriel is efficient. Ball out. He has a better arm than Tua or Bryce Young according to the PFF guys.

I am interested in seeing Gabriel play more.
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA Jester 09/18/25 12:24 AM
1, I imagine because they are really good lawyers and she can afford them.

2, the link to the 2nd twitter post, try actually opening it up:

"7/ The FINAL BLOW: The "trust" conversation with the Secretary. She claims the Secretary said he "could not trust" her. Mullin reveals the truth: "That isn't how that conversation went. And you know that, don't you?" He indicates the meeting was recorded, catching her in a lie."

If a recording exists, let's hear it.
Prove her right or prove her wrong
Either way, let's hear the truth

3, I don't know what YMMV means
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Re: Jimmy Kimmel taken off air over Charlie Kirk comments FATE 09/18/25 12:12 AM
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Re: Jimmy Kimmel taken off air over Charlie Kirk comments FATE 09/18/25 12:09 AM
Buh-bye Jimmy. Probably did it on purpose, he was dying a slow death as a comedian. Now he can rise, with tears streaming down his face, and claim martyrdom.

Maybe we can trend toward actual comedy on late night again soon!
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Re: Trump files $15 billion lawsuit against New York Times over campaign coverage FATE 09/18/25 12:07 AM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
I simply don't agree. But we have a hearing coming up on Tariffs. That goes trumps way, they are corrupt. Nothing Hollow about it.

If nothing else, this place is great for the non-stop laughs. 🤣
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Jimmy Kimmel taken off air over Charlie Kirk comments superbowldogg 09/18/25 12:06 AM
Jimmy Kimmel taken off air over Charlie Kirk comments

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c203n52x1y9o

ABC has pulled late-night host Jimmy Kimmel off air indefinitely over comments he made about the shooting of right-wing influencer Charlie Kirk.

"Jimmy Kimmel Live will be pre-empted indefinitely," a spokesperson for the Disney-owned network said in a statement to the BBC.

On Monday night's monologue, Kimmel said the "MAGA gang" was trying to score political points off Kirk's murder.

On Tuesday, a 22-year-old suspect appeared in court charged with aggravated murder over last Wednesday's shooting of the 31-year-old conservative influencer. Representatives for Kimmel did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


Kimmel said in his Monday night monologue: "The Maga Gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it."

The late-night host, who has frequently been in the crosshairs of US President Donald Trump, also criticised flags being flown at half staff in honour of Kirk, and mocked the president's reaction to the shooting.

He spliced a clip of the president speaking with reporters about his reaction to Kirk's death, and redirecting to talk about a ballroom being built at the White House.

"He's at the fourth stage of grief," Kimmel said. "Construction. It's demolition, construction.

"This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he calls a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a gold fish."

Also on Wednesday, the chair of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Brendan Carr, said on a podcast that Kimmel's remarks showed "the sickest conduct possible" as he urged Disney to take action.

"[Broadcasters] have a license granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest," said Carr, a Trump-appointee.

"Look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or, you know, there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead," Carr told the Benny Show.

He noted that an apology from Kimmel would be a "very reasonable, minimal step".


The ABC announcement came just after one of the biggest owners of TV stations in the US, Nexstar Media, said it would not air Jimmy Kimmel Live! "for the foreseeable future beginning with tonight's show".

Nexstar said on Wednesday evening that the comedian's remarks about Kirk "are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse".

"[W]e do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located," said Andrew Alford, president of Nexstar's broadcasting division.

"Continuing to give Mr Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time, and we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue."
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA FATE 09/18/25 12:04 AM
1. Sure. Why would she hire the two "Get Trump"ers? And you're glossing over the fact that they were passing her notes during her testimony. Terrible look. But since this entire thing is about digging through a bunch of unverifiable lies (there is no recording), looking like a liar (anyone that constantly says "I can't recall" and can't answer a single question) loses in the court of public opinion.

I don't know what "link" you're talking about, those are posts on X. Anyway, anyone that watched a decent portion (requirement: IQ above 70 and a BS meter) can see we have someone crying about science while she makes excuses for layers and layers of CDC politics. Seems disingenuous, but YMMV.

Funny thing is, RFK can fire her for any reason he sees fit. That's how it works. If she thinks she's going to win based on "upholding scientific integrity", she's already lost.
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Re: Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah, source says FATE 09/17/25 11:46 PM
I was Surpressed he let it all get out of hand so bardly.

But yur right, this is all 100% on Trump. And the drought too, all Trump. Doesn't believe in global warning? This is the price we pay for it.
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Re: RFK - and RotaTeq and where we are with Health in the USA Jester 09/17/25 11:40 PM
1, would you not want a lawyer in her situation?

2, nothing in that link exposed anything
Supposedly that meeting with RFK was recorded (per your link)
IF it was, let's hear it
That will tell us the truth.
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Re: Quarterback height Homewood Dog 09/17/25 10:58 PM
I liked Doug Flutie too. The guy never got a fair shot as an NFL starter because of the reasons I listed. He was quick but not fast. The guy just won but didn't look good doing it LOL !!! laugh Maybe Dillon can be OUR Doug Flutie!!!!
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Re: Robert Redford bonefish 09/17/25 10:57 PM
I loved his narration in the movie "A River Runs Through It."

He directed the movie which was a terrific family novella written by Norman Maclean.

Redford always had class.
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Re: Trump files $15 billion lawsuit against New York Times over campaign coverage Damanshot 09/17/25 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by oobernoober
While they are certainly conservative-leaning, they have already ruled against Trump plenty of times.

The presidential immunity ruling amid the environment it was issued is still a head-scratcher for me, and Roberts generally wasn't smelling too good during that time, but overall the claim that they have been corrupted rings pretty hollow, IMO.

I simply don't agree. But we have a hearing coming up on Tariffs. That goes trumps way, they are corrupt. Nothing Hollow about it.
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Re: Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah, source says Damanshot 09/17/25 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
J/C

Typical political discourse. Attack the individual instead of admitting they have a point. No wonder the country is where it is.

Wonder where we all picked that up at. This [censored] starts at the top.

It starts at the bottom with what people on both sides allow and/or excuse. Trump is just taking advantage of the prevailing attitudes.

That's BS

The hate was always there. Always. But it was Surpressed until Trump made it ok to let it out.. This is 100% on Trump....
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