As you know, they are masked because you lefty clowns doxx them and put their families lives in danger.
And the operation in Nashville made 500 stops approximately. Unlike you I was not there so I do it know their color. But I do know this. About 100 were detained for immigration violations, including a tda member, a child rapist , about 30 who had been deported and reentered illegally, a felony. There were others who had criminal convictions or criminal charges.
Any not included in those groups broke into our country illegally and all need to be deported.
As should always be the case America controls who comes into our country.
Am I misreading that Oober, or does it say “work temporarily “? If it is temporary by definition it must come to an end. When it does they need to go home.
So are you telling me the fans wouldn't be happier seeing 7 wins at home each year rather than 2 or 3? That math doesn't add up. Are you saying the Browns going deep into the playoffs wouldn't make them happier than a 3 win season like they just had? Oh contraire mon frere.
I guess you righties haven't been keeping up with the news. So what criminals were all those brown people sitting with when there were over 300 random traffic stops of Brown people made in Nashville in only a few hours? Stop making excuses. Trump is now saying that won't apply to farm workers as long as farmers "vouch for them". Will you start whining now or will you do the usual and follow along with whatever trump tells you to?
And there it is. Straight from the horses as...... mouth. So are you going to call trump a lefty now?
And 31 teams each year don't win the SB. There is a difference between the team making great strides and improvement verses winning a Championship. I would agree that if the team doesn't make major improvements, where you watch the game doesn't really make any difference. The Browns had a grand total of 1 home win in 2024. If you're actually trying to claim that the fan base wouldn't be much happier with 7 home wins, a 12 game winning season and a deep run in the playoffs I want some of what you're smoking.
Like I said, you're an all or nothing guy. Yes the object is to win. Actually it's to win the SB every year. But stop pretending fans of every team that doesn't win the SB don't love their team and think they support a good team. Or in your case do you only believe that about the Browns?
Could you provide some examples of people who have legal status being deported. Not detained, but deported. I have a feeling you are gonna have a tough time with that.
Which is not to say mistakes cannot be made. In fact the only way to avoid making mistakes is to do nothing and that is not an option. If we make a mistake we will fix it. But we need to keep the goal in front of us. If you are here illegally you have to go.
If you are here illegally and are smart, use that app to self deport. I think that puts you at the top of a list to return. When we are ready. It is America’s choice who comes in!! Not some cartel coyote!!
So are you telling me the fans wouldn't be happier seeing 7 wins at home each year rather than 2 or 3? That math doesn't add up. Are you saying the Browns going deep into the playoffs wouldn't make them happier than a 3 win season like they just had? Oh contraire mon frere.
Unless you're a farm worker, right? Then all a farmer has to do is "vouch for you". Have you been keeping up? I know it's hard to do since it keeps changing all the time.
How do they know if those 10 people sitting at a bar are illegal or not? Maybe because they're drinking Corona or Modelo? Drinking tequila perhaps? Let me guess. They check their paperwork based on the color of their skin. If not, how else would they know if they are illegal?
Clem you need to pay better attention. The Cato institute and Reason magazine, a libertarian magazine, strongly support open borders. They are not an example of someone who opposes illegal immigration! I left the Libertarian party for two reasons and one of them was their position on illegal immigration.
And I think it is juvenile to suggest there is something wrong with people who believe if you came into this country illegally you need to be deported. We are a country and we have borders. They are there for a reason.
Seriously my friend, we all want equal opportunity and I think we largely have that. The problem you and many others seek is equal outcome. If it gets to that point, we will all be poor, waiting for the government cheese to arrive.
So you think people having healthcare, a basic roof over their heads and just enough to eat is an "equal outcome"?
You think wanting people who work full time making a wage that they can live on is an "equal outcome"?
I think you need to look up the definition of the word equal. You seem to have forgotten what that word means.
This is just the first step. Let's see what happens over the next 3.5 years. This legislation helps to push everything else forward.
Yes, this is all in the first 6 months.
And of course you dodged the question completely. Reagan said the same thing. Please tell us how you think this will work?
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As for people losing food and medical assistance, let's just wait and see who actually loses what before we parrot the party line.
Why would that be? You push the party line every time you post. And with no real answers. Once again look at the math and tell me how there's any possible way this will work......
Medicaid, the public health insurance program covering more than 72 million people with low income, is jointly funded by states and the federal government. Medicaid spending totaled around $890 billion in the 2023 federal fiscal year, with the federal government paying 69 percent and states paying 31 percent.
Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and ACA subsidies: $1.7 trillion, or 24% of the budget.
Medicaid and CHIP: $626 billion.
Federal share of Medicaid spending: Over half of the total state spending on Medicaid.
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I think some people need to lose those benefits.
That would be easy to do by changing the requirements that the federal government is willing to pay the states for. Those people and those people alone would lose their medicaid and we would find out how much "waste and fraud" there is in medicaid. Instead they just made up some ridiculously high number number with no rhyme or reason and whoever suffers, suffers.
I suppose DOGE taught you nothing. "We'll find 2 trillion in waste and fraud."No wait, we'll find 1 trillion in waste and fraud." What did they find? They found what they claimed was $150 billion of waste and fraud while having to rehire many of those they let go because they were trying to reach some made up goal they set for themselves. And some of what they called waste and fraud was to stop feeding and vaccinating starving children around the globe. I never saw you post a word on here objecting to that either.
You HAVE to know you can't cut that much from medicaid without harming those who need it most. Yet all you have to say is "Let's wait and see."
Oober, guess if you come here illegally and then marry an American citizen you should immediately contact an immigration attorney and start the process of becoming a legal resident. If you wait till ICE finds you and arrests you it could well result in a major disruption in your life, though I think if your spouse initiates proceeding to bring the wife to America he will be able to do so.
I guess that old adage applies. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
Tom Homan has said repeatedly we are going after the violent criminals. But if we find you in a bar sitting with 10 other people who are here illegally we are gonna arrest all of you and initiate proceedings. They are all here illegally and need to be deported.
There is the fact that being here past your visa allowance or without one is illegal, so you will have to come up with something else.
You do have something else, right? Sorry, I know you don't.
It's rather convenient how every time trump changes his mind, you change yours. I had no idea these farmers did extensive background checks on their employees. It reminds me of when someone in a nice neighborhood turns out to have murdered his wife. The local news station interviews his neighbor.... "But Paul was such a nice man. Always willing to help his neighbors. He went to church every Sunday. We had no idea he was capable of such a thing."
So now it will be farmers who are vetting "illegals" and that makes sense to you? Only in trumplandia.
If the Haslam group fails to build a Championship football team...none of fluff that's going to be added for fan comfort will matter.
That isn't true. Not even close. The venue is no longer just a football stadium. In time, football games are only going to be a portion of the events held there.
Plus, that is a rich comment coming from you. You are the one always posting up NFLPA results saying how Browns ownership is horrible and uncaring about the players needs.
I suspect we could win 5 championships over a decade's time and you would be moaning about the 5 seasons we didn't.
Time to just clam up.
When Haslam builds his new stadium...will that make him that make him one of the most successful NFL owners in the league..?
It seems that Jimmy and his group believe building a new stadium will make the Browns fans forget the fact that the Browns are the worst franchise in the NFL based on winning percentage.
Building a "winning football team" should be Haslam's #1 goal.
If the Haslam group fails to build a Championship football team...none of fluff that's going to be added for fan comfort will matter.
That isn't true. Not even close. The venue is no longer just a football stadium. In time, football games are only going to be a portion of the events held there.
Plus, that is a rich comment coming from you. You are the one always posting up NFLPA results saying how Browns ownership is horrible and uncaring about the players needs.
I suspect we could win 5 championships over a decade's time and you would be moaning about the 5 seasons we didn't.
Time to just clam up.
He has a point however. If they fail to win a Championship, it won't make the fans any happier than they last stadium....
The other events that are possible with this facility are nothing short of amazing for NE Ohio.. NO question about that. But if you are talking NFL Football, it's not going to make the experience any better if we don't win it all.
There is the fact that being here past your visa allowance or without one is illegal, so you will have to come up with something else.
You do have something else, right? Sorry, I know you don't.
He promised to deport "the worst of the worst"- first. Now, I.C.E. is rounding up day laborers outside of Home Depot. All because:
1. Stephen "The Goebbels Ghoul" Miller yelled at ICE 2 months ago- and placed a monthly 'quota' for abductions upon America's new SS Goon Patrol to meet. 2. It became harder to find/grab/prosecute/deport actual criminals than it was to raid farms, factories, box stores, and meat processing plants than it was to simply just start grabbing Brown People from south of the Rio Grande off the streets. No investigations. No Juris Prudence. No Habeas Corpus.
Just- snatched up, and hauled away. Is this the America you envisioned when you entered law school?
Take a moment to dig deeper, 'Peen. Look into the stories of the people swept off the streets by masked, unidentified (by badge or uniform name) individuals representing "America's interests":
This is the first result from my Google inquiry: "percentage of ICE deportees who have no criminal records":
Approximately 65% of individuals detained by ICE in fiscal year 2025 had no criminal convictions, according to data from the Cato Institute. Furthermore, over 93% of those detained had not been convicted of a violent offense. Many of the remaining individuals had only minor offenses, such as traffic violations. Here's a more detailed breakdown:
No criminal convictions: According to the Cato Institute, 65% of individuals detained by ICE in fiscal year 2025 had no criminal convictions. No violent convictions: Over 93% of those detained by ICE had no convictions for violent offenses. Minor offenses: Many of the individuals with convictions had only traffic violations or other minor offenses. *
This is from The Cato Institute- not exactly a bastion of liberal thoughtspeak.
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So... here we are:
You, on a football fansite, trying to corner another poster with pseudo-clever wordsmith, while The Real World shows us what's really happening. Every day. In real time. I'd ask you to "check yourself, before you wreck yourself"... but I'm afraid that your ship has already sailed over that horizon.
It has been sad to watch this happen to you, over these past 4+ years. I miss the fellow Browns fan I used to like/respect. I wish he'd come back to us... but I don't hold out much hope for that ever happening. 'Trumpism' now seems to own you. You were much better than this, when we first met.
I have never heard anybody complain about to much luxury, right? I know I never have.
You have had some achievement in life and managed to save some coin. You might as well. I don't care how it is sold, the ground is still the ground, a tent is still a tent, and a cot is still a cot. At one time that was fine.
Now, give me a nice room with a big screen TV and high thread count sheets.
And when someone loses their house and become homeless, you Goper’s will say oh well, it’s not me. Asshat Gopers care about no one but themselves. A big middle finger to them all.
It's all thumbs up over here.
Seriously my friend, we all want equal opportunity and I think we largely have that. The problem you and many others seek is equal outcome. If it gets to that point, we will all be poor, waiting for the government cheese to arrive.
Holy cow are you for real? There are legal immigrants that have been here for decades that are now being deported. And you shrug it off as “Collateral damage”. How white of you.
You probably should have a link to the first part. As for the how white of you crack, that is beneath you.
Holy cow are you for real? There are legal immigrants that have been here for decades that are now being deported. And you shrug it off as “Collateral damage”. How white of you.
You probably should have a link to the first part. As for the how white of you crack, that is beneath you.
