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Setting aside that Dillon Gabriel is a rookie. Does his skill/set make you think he’d be the next Burrows, or Herbert with the Chargers? Or Drake Maye? He’ll be a solid backup to the QB we draft next spring.


It’s 2025, not 1975, and 5’9 QBs can’t play in the national football league.

We also need to upgrade the OL, big-time, and the WR position.

The Jags lost today so that was a bright spot.

The DW trade will haunt us for years. It already has started its haunting-ness.

Clean house, I hate saying that but this crap is beyond ridiculous.

Bubba needs to be axed just out of principle. What an embarrassment today with the two kick returns for six.

And another thing. It cannot be understated just how much of a fork in the road the DW decision was. You could say with pretty strong confidence that Mayfield stays, we have 3 Barry drafts replete with with 1st round picks, no awful $230m anvil around the neck, hampering trades, preventing us from keeping our talent from walking, and crapping the bed with the fanbase and this team is consistently in the playoff picture every year, maybe even Super Bowl convos.

But we took the other road. In other words, that one fateful decision changed literally everything about this franchise ever since. Truth be told, I don’t think Haslam is ever NOT going to make decisions like that. So I won’t be at all surprised if Ski & Barry are gone even tho Haslam was the one.

Re: that Watkins article. I think it’s wrong to assume that Haslam wouldn’t fire Ski & Barry even tho he pushed for the DW pick. Owners can do whatever they want. Coaches and GMs that want to work again don’t spill tea or air dirty laundry. At least not quickly if they want to work again. I think Haslam has finger prints all over most of our worst decisions since his tenure began. Manzel, Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens, DW, etc. There is zero reason to believe he (or any billionaire) wouldn’t delude himself into believing the problem is anything but himself.

I don't know what funds could be withheld. I am sure there are some.

I can withhold my money. I avoid blue states, or at minimum blue cities with the exception of Cleveland, for obvious reasons. Even then, I don't spend any real money in Cleveland. It goes to the Burbs. I won't spend any of my money there. If I travel and have to cross in to one of those states, I do my best to fill up before I enter the state so I don't have to spend any money on gas. I might buy a burger of something.

I have been doing this for 3-4 years now.

My feeling is NYC is going to pay a big price for electing a communist.

My money, my choice.

I asked about espresso makers here a few years ago. My wife got a 50% of code for online purchase of a breville. We splurged and got a $1000 machine for $500. I highly recommend splurging and getting a machine that grinds whole beans and has ability to steam milk. I was looking at Phillips LatteGo 3300 before my wife got the discount. look around find a good one in your price range. If you enjoy good coffee every day you deserve it! It is a little more expensive to buy fresh whole beans. I think it is well worth it. If you do daily starbucks absolutely stop and get a machine!

Depo took a better job.

He may be gone, but his systems are in place and will continue to be used by the people he trained. Analytics isn't going anywhere.

No.

GFS's Breakfast Blend, whole bean.

Grind the beans per pot I brew, but that's where the fancy stops. I use a regular Mr. Coffee drip maker and I'll typically leave the remainder of the pot I don't finish and drink it cold the next morning while waiting for the new pot to brew.

Sooo... I like good coffee, but I'm also not overly picky about things like it being fresh or day old, or even room temp.... but, it has to be good beans, and always Black. Never any sugar or cream.

Yes Mac I watched the entire video you posted with 3 guys saying over and over that they have no clue what Depo did, while you claim they know what depo did.

They're toast.

Well that's your opinion, not fact. And in answer to your question..... Not many feel that way. Not many at all. And the more attention they paid the less they think that.

Lavaza whole beans, espresso gran crema. Good stuff good price for whole beans

Earth to mac. Haslam owns the Browns. It's his roller coaster.

Thus far on this board you seem to be the only one who " feels that Depo suckered them and played them for fools".

Analytics give you statistics based on past events. It doesn't predict the future. Most people grasp that concept.

GM..did you listen to the entire video..?

It is ironic that it was Depo who was the first to jump off of his own roller-coaster.

I wonder how many feel that Depo suckered them and played them for fools?
...That is exactly what he did and many actually thought Depo could transform the Browns into a winning franchise by taking analytic shortcuts.

There are no shortcuts when it comes to judging football talent. Scouting requires someone to get out of the office and watch the individual perform on the field.

Trump fighting hard to keep Americans hungry and it's working so far...................

I think Haslam has some serious soul searching to do.

No matter how you want to look at the Browns he is the owner and the results show failure.

Processes have to change. It cannot be business as usual. Repeating the same mistakes will not change the desired results.

Depo leaving is probably a good thing because Haslam needs a new strategy.

Who can Haslam hire that can come in with a blueprint for success?

I wish I knew.

Where are the Antifa flags... Where is the Antifa Leader? Where are the Antifa Tats? These guys look like the guys that Attacked the capital.

Actually, they look a lot like ICE agents.

In other words, I bet this is FAKED

You can begin to see what the Cav's will look like this year.

Kenny still has to figure out rotations but the new guys are starting to fit in.

The staring five looks really good:

Allen, Mobley, Hunter, Mitchell, Garland.

Merrill, Strus, Ball, Nance, Wade, Tyson will be the rotation pieces.

The Cavs have the potential to win it all.

Hmmmm - are YOU Dave 🤣

My issue has always been focused elsewhere. Depo is clearly an incredibly smart guy - I doubt very much if he is the root cause of any of the current issues the Browns organization faces. He will *probably* be replaced by some other Analysist.

It did strike me that Baseball, while a team sport, is also more individual in nature. It's pitcher vs hitter - errors and fielding ability impact the outcome in a more minor way than a football play. Blocking, route running, defensive schemes, talent match up at every single position on the field. . . . that's not saying Analitics isn't important in the NFL. It is - every team uses. I just think it is probably more useful in baseball, or more specific/exact?

Mitchell had a really tough 1st half, then turned it on in the 2nd to finish with 29 to match Hunter's 29.

Huge game out of Hunter, too. Nice crossover!

Cavs with a huge, hard fought victory tonight over the Bulls. They were down by 19, but fought their way back for the win.

Tyson is really becoming a nice piece for this team.

As I was the first to say. Your boogeyman is gone. If you notice that well informed group you posted even says they don't know what Depos job was. 😂