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Re: Iranian War northlima dawg 03/14/26 05:54 PM
Trump pulled mine-sweepers from the Middle East and they’re sitting in Philadelphia as the Iran War rages
Andrew Feinberg
Wed, March 11, 2026 at 1:24 PM EDT



President Trump warns Iran against mining the Strait of Hormuz as U.S. Navy's minesweepers sit idle thousands of miles away.
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As President Donald Trump warns Iran against using mines to threaten oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. Navy’s purpose-built minesweepers are sitting stateside thousands of miles away with no plans to put them to use while the war rages on.

As gas prices in the U.S. continued to skyrocket, Trump on Tuesday took to Truth Social to demand that Tehran “immediately” remove any mines placed in the vital seaway and to do so “forthwith” lest the Iranian military suffer “consequences ... at a level never seen before.” That warning came after multiple news outlets reported Iran had begun mining the strait, a narrow waterway that is the only passage from the Persian Gulf into open ocean.

He also threatened to use drone strikes to “permanently eliminate any boat or ship attempting to mine the Hormuz Strait” and boasted of having done so against 10 Iranian “inactive mine-laying boats” in a separate post several minutes later.

But it’s unclear to what extent the U.S. now has reliable capacity to seek out and remove any mines that have already been deployed or are subsequently dropped in the strait because the ships the American Navy spent decades relying on for that purpose have been removed from the Persian Gulf region.

On Monday, a massive cargo ship, M/V Seaway Hawk, was spotted on camera arriving in Philadelphia carrying a quartet of Avenger-class Mine Countermeasure Ships that were based at U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain as the Navy’s front-line deterrent against mining operations in the Middle East until this past fall, when the last of those ships, U.S.S. Devastator, was decommissioned.


The four wood-and-fiberglass vessels, including Devastator, U.S.S. Sentry, U.S.S. Dextrous, and U.S.S. Gladiator, were built in the 1990s had been built in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and ships of that class were first deployed to the Persian Gulf region during Operation Desert Storm.

For the next four decades, the U.S. kept minesweepers forward-deployed in Bahrain to deter use of mines in the Gulf region amid fears that Iran could use them to effectively block the narrow chokepoint through which one fifth of the world’s oil supply passes each year.

But that long period of service ended in September with the decommissioning of Devastator, leaving only four Avenger-class ships in active service, based in the homeport at Sasebo, Japan .

And even as tensions between the U.S. and Iran continued to ratchet up over the last few months, the Trump administration continued with plans to bring the ships back to the U.S. for disposal this past January by contracting for their transportation on the semi-submersible cargo ship which left Bahrain for Philadelphia this past January.

Photographs released by the Pentagon on Jan. 21 show the Seaway Hawk carrying the four decommissioned minesweepers while being escorted by the Littoral Combat Ship U.S.S. Canberra — one of a troubled class of vessel which the Navy is pressing into service as a replacement for the minesweepers.

The cargo ship carrying four decommissioned minesweepers is escorted by U.S.S. Canberra, one of the Littoral Combat Ships that will be tasked with clearing mines in the Strait of Hormuz if needed (U.S. Navy Photo)
The cargo ship carrying four decommissioned minesweepers is escorted by U.S.S. Canberra, one of the Littoral Combat Ships that will be tasked with clearing mines in the Strait of Hormuz if needed (U.S. Navy Photo)
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It arrived in Philadelphia on Tuesday, the day Iran reportedly began laying mines.

According to the Navy’s own press releases, the Independence-class Canberra is the first ship of its class to be fitted with a mine countermeasures mission package as part of an effort to replace the Avenger-class minesweepers and find a use for the LCS, which was designed to operate in shallow, coastal waters with a minimal crew.

Decades-long LCS program has been plagued with cost overruns and questions over whether the ships would be survivable in a combat situation, but according to USNI News the Navy scrapped plans to decommission them and instead chose to repurpose them for mine-clearing work and as support vessels for unmanned systems.

Asked whether the single LCS equipped with the mine-clearing equipment package would be sufficient to replace the four purpose-build minesweepers, a U.S. defense official told The Independent: “We do not discuss the operational status of our assets or speculate on future operations to protect operational security.”

But Matthew Buckley, a former U.S. Naval aviator who spent considerable time serving in the Middle East region in the 1990s, told The Independent that the U.S. air campaign against Iran is likely executing long-held plans that would negate the need for the minesweepers by eliminating Iran’s ability to lay mines.

“ When I was flying combat sorties off to Abraham Lincoln in the mid 90s, you know, we were doing operation Southern Watch no fly zone missions over Iraq. And guess what we were doing during our downtime? We were strike planning Iran ... and one of my big strikes that I had planned was against an Iranian mine facility deep in the middle of Iran,” he said.

He added that the Avenger-class ships would not necessarily be readily available to clear any mines that might be laid because they’re “not built for a dynamic environment.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-pulled-mine-sweepers-middle-155733810.html
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 FATE 03/14/26 04:19 PM
Bo knows prodigious home runs.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 03/14/26 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
For the brain-dead, confused and cross-eyed, that is a very accurate assessment. thumbsup

Thanks. It isn't hard to see.
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 FATE 03/14/26 03:25 PM
Seems strange that CNN hasn't scrubbed this from the internet.

Terrorists be like: "Money, money, money, MO-NEY!"


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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 FATE 03/14/26 03:21 PM
For the brain-dead, confused and cross-eyed, that is a very accurate assessment. thumbsup
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Re: Cleveland Guardians 2.0 ScottPlayersFacemask 03/14/26 03:19 PM
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 03/14/26 03:16 PM
Until trump tore it up and now we see the results.
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Re: Trump administration denounces CNN for airing messages from Iranian leaders northlima dawg 03/14/26 03:15 PM
You allow the super rich to buy media and print-and then they bow down and kiss the ring-see 60 minutes and wapo
you replace media coverage in pressers because they don't kiss your ass and actually ask some questions. Sure my pillow media should be in a presidential press conference.
in the foreign countries, they are arresting people who film/live stream missile strikes or damage caused by them.

I don't ever watch MS Now other than Morning Joe once in a while and won't watch fox news-I can't stand the our side is always right your always wrong

and for this war-there is much better places to see real coverage-
a couple of europe papers
Drudge has a bunch of different stuff
Al Jazerra
Many twitch accounts have live streams of the middle east
Tik tok has some but they don't seem to be up for long
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 FATE 03/14/26 03:11 PM
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Jester 03/14/26 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by BADdog
He was .. did he just lose a step. Hasn't been the same lately

Seemed like 2-3 steps. He was pretty thick last year. Thirty or so is when that middle life bulge is hard to avoid.

Middle life Bulge? Where can I get one? smile

You can have mine
No charge
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Re: Trump administration denounces CNN for airing messages from Iranian leaders PitDAWG 03/14/26 02:49 PM
Trump Calls 'Lowlife' Media 'Sick And Demented' Over Iran War Coverage

President Donald Trump tore into news outlets for their coverage of Air Force refueling planes reportedly hit by an Iranian missile strike at a Saudi Arabian air base.

"Yet again, an intentionally misleading headline by the Fake News Media about the five tanker planes that were supposedly struck down at an Airport in Saudi Arabia, and of no further use," Trump wrote Saturday morning on Truth Social. "In actuality, the Base was hit a few days ago, but the planes were not 'struck' or “destroyed.'"

The Wall Street Journal had reported Friday that five tanker planes were "damaged but not fully destroyed" in the strike and that no one was killed, citing U.S. officials.

In his post, Trump accused the Journal, along with The New York Times and "other Lowlife 'Papers' and Media" of wanting the U.S. to "lose the War."

"They are truly sick and demented people that have no idea the damage they cause the United States of America," he wrote.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/late...cWBzt8q958doE_aem_sbr9N3AsB2KmYnB31MlMQw
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 03/14/26 02:47 PM
No problem Butt-Head
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Re: The Dems... again FATE 03/14/26 02:45 PM
Thanks, Beavis.
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 03/14/26 02:37 PM
rofl

Now you're playing Stretch Armstrong.

For someone with their head planted directly up their posterior to the point they do their own colonoscopy it's odd for you to be talking about someone else in reference to a proctologist.
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Re: The Dems... again FATE 03/14/26 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
At no point in time does the president have anything to do with any of that.

The available reporting points to bureaucratic and policy failures inside the Bureau of Prisons (BOP), not to a specific, deliberate early‑release policy choice by the Biden White House, although the administration is ultimately responsible for overseeing DOJ and BOP.


So, sorta like Sleepy had nothing to do with the border disaster while you made up excuses and screamed "Conggrrrresss!" Yet it was ended the day Trump took office.


According to the BOP, talks to end the loophole that lets terrorists out early "stalled" during the Biden era.

But don't worry, the loophole that lets terrorists out early has been ended. Again, as soon as Trump took office, in March 2025.


Thanks again though, for another dumbed down, meaningless civics lesson. You're good at showing us that you are your own proctologist. thumbsup
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Re: Poltical Jokes Part 5 PitDAWG 03/14/26 02:21 PM
Do you know the difference between trump and Jim Jones?

Trump would have charged them for the Kool-Aid.
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Re: Iranian War PitDAWG 03/14/26 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I see you didn't answer my question. Now lets remember, this isn't "your funeral". It isn't your biker buddy Bill's funeral. It's a solemn ceremony of the transfer of the bodies of troops killed in action. Soldiers in their dress blues and the families of those soldiers in attendance.

Would you wear a ball cap to the funeral of a troop killed in battle? I'm just curious. It seems you care more about acting like that's normal than admitting it's not.

Yes I would. I wore one at my own mothers funeral. Like I said before y'all acting just like the old Church Folk that you complain about so much. What I am saying is that worrying about stupid crap like this is just that STUPID and a waste of time.

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It's a solemn ceremony of the transfer of the bodies of troops killed in action


I agree and what anybody is wearing does not have any effect on that, just like sitting in church wearing a hat or jeans, or a t-shirt does not effect Church.

But then you aren't the president of the U.S.A. now are you? rolleyes



But you wish I was rofl

It would be an improvement. thumbsup

But then how much of a compliment is that really? naughtydevil
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 03/14/26 02:01 PM
You people forget how this works.

A judge holds a trial. A jury reaches its verdict based on the evidence presented. The judge hands out the sentence. A parole board decides when and if a prisoner is released.

At no point in time does the president have anything to do with any of that.

Yes, sad.

You posted some AI induced rhetoric about why people bring trump up in situations that have nothing to do with trump. Yet here you are. More proof that every accusation you make ends up being a confession.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Damanshot 03/14/26 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by BADdog
He was .. did he just lose a step. Hasn't been the same lately

Seemed like 2-3 steps. He was pretty thick last year. Thirty or so is when that middle life bulge is hard to avoid.

Middle life Bulge? Where can I get one? smile
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Re: Iranian War Damanshot 03/14/26 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by GMdawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I see you didn't answer my question. Now lets remember, this isn't "your funeral". It isn't your biker buddy Bill's funeral. It's a solemn ceremony of the transfer of the bodies of troops killed in action. Soldiers in their dress blues and the families of those soldiers in attendance.

Would you wear a ball cap to the funeral of a troop killed in battle? I'm just curious. It seems you care more about acting like that's normal than admitting it's not.

Yes I would. I wore one at my own mothers funeral. Like I said before y'all acting just like the old Church Folk that you complain about so much. What I am saying is that worrying about stupid crap like this is just that STUPID and a waste of time.

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It's a solemn ceremony of the transfer of the bodies of troops killed in action


I agree and what anybody is wearing does not have any effect on that, just like sitting in church wearing a hat or jeans, or a t-shirt does not effect Church.

But then you aren't the president of the U.S.A. now are you? rolleyes



But you wish I was rofl

Couple of things for sure about you GM..... YOU would never let kids starve... YOU would never allow a cut to funding of Cancer Research for Children.... YOU would never start a war that has no end date.... YOU would never attack another country Just to get their Oil so your buddies can get richer.... YOU would never allow your presidency to be bought and sold for Trinkets and Trash!

So, from that limited view,, Yea, I'd consider you a good candidate.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Ballpeen 03/14/26 11:43 AM
Originally Posted by BADdog
He was .. did he just lose a step. Hasn't been the same lately

Seemed like 2-3 steps. He was pretty thick last year. Thirty or so is when that middle life bulge is hard to avoid.
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Re: Browns News 6.0 Ballpeen 03/14/26 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
I think the Browns thought Njoku would have been extended by now but couldn't come to terms in 2025 when they visited him in Miami. Then Harold Fannin came along.

Either way, it's not an big issue.

I enjoyed watching Njoku.. He was Fun... He was never going to make you forget Ozzie. But he was fun to watch and was productive most of the time. We're still going to need another TE.

I agree. Free Anency isn't over.

Most likely we draft a guy in the mid rounds. Maybe pick up a late camp cut as well. It depends on how many we want to carry. Three for sure, maybe four.
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Re: Iranian War mgh888 03/14/26 10:18 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-259820d0-52f5-42b2-af79-bca71d9b0aba

Great piece of journalism.

How the bombing of Iran sent shockwaves around the world

Two weeks in, and the consequences of Operation Epic Fury are being felt around the world.

A campaign to rid Iran of its ballistic missiles, navy and any lingering ambitions to develop a nuclear weapon has triggered a crisis which threatens regional stability and the global economy.

Despite a devastating air assault, the Iranian regime is still in place, lashing out in new and dangerous ways.

The Middle East is being shaken by the continuing fallout from what US President Donald Trump has described as a “short-term excursion”.

For the Iranian people, urged by Trump to “take over your government”, these are deeply traumatic times.
Iran presents particular challenges. It is far bigger than neighbouring Iraq and Afghanistan combined - two countries where US intervention was messy and lasted years.

Its military assets, such as parts of its nuclear programme, are dispersed across a huge country, sometimes buried deep in mountain bunkers.
Its population of more than 90 million is diverse - half Persian but with a multitude of minorities, including Azerbaijanis, Kurds and Arabs.

Its Islamic regime, in power since 1979, is deeply entrenched, ideologically motivated and well-organised.

Despite four previous attacks by Israel since April 2024, and one by the US, its grip on power was horrifically demonstrated in January when it brutally suppressed a wave of popular protests.
Amid the wave of killings of protesters perpetrated by regime forces in January, Iranians heard Trump promising “help is on its way”.

When it finally arrived at the end of February, some reacted with euphoria. Videos showed Iranians celebrating at news that the supreme leader had been killed.

But as the civilian death has risen, hope has given way to fear and panic. In a strike on a primary school in Minab, at least 160 people, many of them children, were killed. In another, there was a desperate search for survivors in the wreckage of an apartment building in eastern Tehran.
The UN says as many as 3.2 million people have been displaced so far, as Iranians - and many long-term Afghan refugees - flee cities and seek shelter in the countryside. In southern Lebanon, at least 800,000 civilians have been forced to move following Israeli evacuation orders.

Nor has this war been painless for those who launched it. The US and Israel have both lost small numbers of military personnel. There have been civilian casualties, too, including nine Israelis killed when an Iranian ballistic missile hit a bomb shelter in the city of Beit Shemesh on 1 March.

The biggest fear is that after enduring all of this suffering, the clerics will still remain in power and the Islamic Republic will still be ruling

The US had spent weeks assembling one of the largest military task forces since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, including two carrier strike groups and huge numbers of aircraft.

Israel and the US, between them, possess every weapon known to man. They can fire vast numbers of accurate missiles, from a distance, to disable and destroy Iran’s defences. They can follow up with almost inexhaustible supplies of bombs.

This was never meant to be a fair fight: Pete Hegseth US Secretary of Defense

Iran has significant, if dwindling, stocks of ballistic missiles and drones. It may be holding some back but after two weeks it’s using fewer and fewer of them.

But it still has cards to play, as a spate of recent attacks on tankers at sea using “unknown projectiles” and naval “suicide” drones has shown. These will be harder to detect and destroy and could prolong this conflict for some time.

Rising prices drive governments to react
The shockwaves from this war have reverberated through the global economy in ways seemingly unforeseen by the White House.

The Strait of Hormuz, a narrow waterway through which about 20% of the world’s oil passes, has been all-but choked off.

A Saudi pipeline to the Red Sea, and a smaller route to the Gulf of Oman through the United Arab Emirates, could soon help to get around this blockage. But in the meantime, disruptions in supplies of oil and gas are being felt around the globe.

In fact, it’s hard to think of a corner of the global economy that isn’t already feeling the effects of this crisis, from aviation to agriculture; plastics to shipping.


In the Philippines, some officials are working a four-day week to limit travel. In Thailand, air conditioning units are being set at a minimum of 26C (79F) in government offices to limit electricity consumption. In Myanmar, the military government has said private vehicles can only be driven on alternate days.

In Britain and Europe, governments say they will crack down on price gouging, amid fears that energy companies are seeking to profit from the crisis.

In the US, petrol prices are surging, despite Trump’s pledges to bring them down.

Travel and tourism have also been massively disrupted, especially in Qatar and the UAE, two vital global hubs. Dubai airport, which handled about a quarter of a million passengers every day during the first half of 2025, has been hit several times by Iranian drones.

Tens of thousands of tourists and residents have fled since the war began.

Recent days have seen tankers hit by Iranian projectiles and fast boats. Faced with the overwhelming firepower of Israel and the US, Iran has clearly decided to hit back in a simple, relatively cheap but hugely disruptive manner.

This was a war that only two countries wanted. Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has made no secret of his decades-long desire to defeat a regime which he, and many Israelis, regard as a threat to the existence of the Jewish state. Donald Trump wants to see Iran’s nuclear ambitions thwarted, once and for all.

But while the two leaders share one overriding objective, it’s not clear either has given much thought to what happens afterwards. Both have spoken in vague terms of the Iranian people taking control of their own destiny, but the chaos the war may unleash does not appear to be a major concern to either.

For Washington’s Gulf allies, including Saudi Arabia and the UAE, the war has come as a profound shock. Most view Iran with suspicion and a degree of fear, but have found ways of living with their radical near-neighbour. They’re acutely aware of Iran’s ability to cause global instability but would prefer to find negotiated solutions than resort to force. Oman thought it was close to brokering a deal between US and Iran on the nuclear agenda. Hours before the strikes began, in a desperate bid to avert conflict, its foreign minister went on US television and said a deal was “within our reach”.

Further afield, other US allies find themselves facing acute dilemmas. Perhaps none more than UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, who has struggled to tread a fine line between wanting to stay out of the war and defending UK interests and allies. While the actual necessity of sending warships to the region might legitimately be discussed, the fact it has proved so difficult to do has highlighted the depleted state of Britain’s once formidable navy.

Among Tehran’s allies, Russia may regret the damage inflicted on Iran, but an unexpected windfall in oil revenues will give Moscow a much-needed shot in the arm in the midst of its costly war in Ukraine.

China, the world’s largest importer of Iranian oil, will now be looking for alternative sources at higher prices. Nor has Beijing been able to prevent an attack on a country with which it has a “Comprehensive Strategic Partnership”.

Successive US presidents have talked about the need to “pivot” to Asia and concentrate US efforts on meeting the economic and military challenges posed by a rising China. The war in Iran demonstrates, yet again, that the wider Middle East has a way of sucking America back in. Trump’s National Security Strategy, published just last November, said Iran had already been significantly weakened and that the Middle East was consequently a less troublesome region.

“The days in which the Middle East dominated American foreign policy in both long-term planning and day-to-day execution,” it said, “are thankfully over."

If only.
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Re: Browns Sign DT Kalia Davis FATE 03/14/26 05:04 AM
Don't know much about him. He's spent two years being healthy after a rookie injury. Was a starter last season for the full 17 games. Looks like maybe he's hitting his stride as a middle-of-the-road tackle football player. Can't complain about a marginal starter or solid depth at that price.
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