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Re: What If? Bull_Dawg 06/13/26 03:40 AM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
AI is only as good as the people programming it and the quality/accuracy of the data being inputted into it. Unfortunately, a lot of things that matter in how prospects pan out (or not) aren't things that are easily measurable.

That isn't how it works. There isn't a computer geek programming information into the Browns servers and AI converts the information into useful data.

AI pulls every known piece of information on the web and can then manipulate it to what ever question you want. Right now it is limited by the public browsers that limit it's abilities somewhat, but a program built specifically to dial in all aspects of football would speed the process up significantly.

I agree that the unknown background information is going to be even more limited. As well as live interviews to test knowledge, etc. However, it can pull interviews, articles about off field issues in local papers, etc. to get an algorithm for mental success to pair with actual success at their respective programs. It can also compare that success with the program itself, even diving into the current coaches success with previous programs they worked with to see how that candidate compares to every, for example, WR that coach has ever worked with, THEIR college success vs translated NFL success. It is actually an endless amount of knowledge that you or I can't even fathom.

AI is becoming a living breathing tool for programs, not a program itself that is totally reliant on the guy that wrote it. What ever is ultimately used to pull the AI into the mix, AI will utilize 100% of that tool and make it better and more efficient that the program written to utilize it.

No, "geeks" aren't actively programming once its live, but "geeks" had to program it in the first place (and can update it.) Yes, AI can modify itself, but it can only do so in ways that it was coded to be able to. Yes, AI can "find" its own data, but its ability to determine the accuracy of the data is hit or miss. If "bad data" is taken in, bad results will come out.

I can certainly see uses for AI. But, there are potential problems as well.
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Re: Iran War II Bull_Dawg 06/13/26 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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We're still part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

[1]A part of, isn't the whole of. If it's everyone's problem let everyone help and pay their fair share.

As I said, yelling it doesn't give them that capability to act on it.

Just because you don't like a differing point of view doesn't mean labeling it as Russian propaganda is going to help you.

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I get that you'd rather support the radicals that aim death chants at us than our long time allies. I find that ludicrous. I also think this situation ties in to Ukraine. Russia with more allies with nukes would also be bad.

[2]Spouting stupidity like that certainly doesn't support your argument and undermines it of anything. But you do you.

Once again you propose we take on the responsibility and take on the job most of the globe should be helping with according to your own logic.

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I think doing what is best for the entire globe should be everyone's responsibility.

[3]And there you have it. That doesn't sound anything like the U.S. playing the global police as you have been advocating all along.

Yes I remember 9/11. I also remember that many measures were put in place to keep it from happening again. And such fear tactics as a cause for war is what war mongers have been done for centuries now.

I remember 9/11 but it seems you have forgotten about the war in Iraq.


1. We're the part of it with a willingness and the ability to do something. Unfortunately, the world isn't fair.

The only thing yelling is the voice in your head.

I didn't say you were Russian propaganda, just that your posts read like you've been listening to it.

2. Making excuses is tacit support. Your pretending "death to America" chants aren't a problem is "stupid."

Yes, when bad things are happening, someone has to do something. "Good people" doing nothing is how "evil" wins. Sadly, people quite frequently don't do what they should.

3. "Someone" has to be responsible if no one else will. "With great power, comes great responsibility." But, yeah, I get it. You're all about avoiding responsibility.

You sure seem to pretend 9/11 didn't happen with your "they can't reach us" rhetoric. Measures were put in place after 9/11, but some of them are no longer active. They were never all encompassing. Yes, the war mongers in Iran have been funding a proxy war for centuries and are constantly trying to stoke hate in their populace. Now they're enriching uranium to use fear of nukes as another weapon, in addition to trying to get the actual nukes themselves. I don't think we should let that happen.

No, I haven't forgotten Iraq, I just understand that it was more complex than your simplified view from your basement.
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Re: Browns News cont. Milk Man 06/12/26 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
#WatsonSZN

Current Vegas odds to start week 1:

Watson -194

Sanders +134
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Re: Browns News cont. MemphisBrownie 06/12/26 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Not an issue. Hall put his arm up and Shedeur hit it to show how accurate he is! thumbsup
rofl
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Re: Browns News cont. Homewood Dog 06/12/26 09:03 PM
Not an issue. Hall put his arm up and Shedeur hit it to show how accurate he is! thumbsup
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Re: Browns News cont. MemphisBrownie 06/12/26 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie


Yikes.

Lol, mid-season form!

Pat the ball, scan field for 7 seconds and then chuck it into a stationary object. Hilarious.

#WatsonSZN
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Re: Browns News cont. Milk Man 06/12/26 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie


Yikes.

Lol, mid-season form!

Pat the ball, scan field for 7 seconds and then chuck it into a stationary object. Hilarious.
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Re: What If? Floquinho 06/12/26 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
AI is only as good as the people programming it and the quality/accuracy of the data being inputted into it. Unfortunately, a lot of things that matter in how prospects pan out (or not) aren't things that are easily measurable.

Maybe it starts that way but AI continues to build on what was initially entered. It doesn't remain static.

But it is always reliant on the initial underpinnings. It can add more data, but how it looks at that data is fixed in the programming. It's ability to process the accuracy of data is also variable dependent on the programming.

AI can provide you with more bad answers the more data it doesn't truly understand that it incorporates.

AI can tell you to a finite percentage how accurate a piece of information is. It can also choose whether to use a piece of information based on those percentages. There aren't many boundaries, which is what makes it scary.

Totally agree!

AI can micro analyze whatever you want it to do. Every little weaknesses will be analyzed.

As a private investor, I’ve found AI to be a surprisingly useful research tool. By uploading large amounts of company information—sometimes hundreds of PDF documents from a single company—I can explore questions and analyze businesses in far greater depth than I could on my own.

Since I started using it earlier this year, I’ve been impressed by how often its analysis aligns with what later happens. That said, AI is far from perfect. It struggles with things that are inherently difficult to predict, such as the timing of events, regulatory changes, tax decisions, wars, environmental disasters, or unexpected corporate actions like hostile takeovers.

Ultimately, the investment decisions and risk management are still my responsibility. AI can help process information and identify patterns, but it cannot remove uncertainty from investing.

So far, the results have been very positive for me, with returns in the 30–40% range on invested capital this year. I don’t expect that level of performance every year, and there’s certainly an element of good fortune involved, but it has shown me how powerful these tools can be when used as part of a broader investment process.
Right now I make way more using AI than I do from my ordinary income. It’s not even close.
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Re: U.S. creates $1.7B ‘lawfare’ fund in exchange for Trump dropping $10B IRS suit PitDAWG 06/12/26 06:17 PM
Trump's allies have another plan to pay 'weaponization' victims

WASHINGTON, June 12 (Reuters) - While the Justice Department has said it hasabandoned plans for President Donald Trump's ⁠proposed $1.8 billion "weaponization" fund, some of his allies are shifting focus to a different way to make payouts to his supporters, including those who took part in the January 6, 2021, riot on the U.S. Capitol.

The most viable path, according to Trump allies and legal ⁠experts, may involve compensating these loyalists under a 1946 law called the Federal Tort Claims Act. That measure lets people file administrative claims - and subsequent lawsuits - against the U.S. government for alleged wrongdoing, which can then be settled out of court.

"At my ‌level, the fund is dead," Stanley Woodward, the third-ranking official at the Justice Department, said in an interview with Reuters. "If somebody wants to submit a claim against the government and sue us, they can still do that."

The Republican president repeatedly has expressed support for federal payouts to supporters whom he has portrayed as being targeted by a "weaponized" U.S. government under his Democratic predecessor Joe Biden.

But the "anti-weaponization" fund, crafted as part of a legal settlement between Trump and the Justice Department to resolve his $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over allegedly mishandling his tax records, was put on hold amid fierce opposition from Republicans in Congress. Trump critics derided it as a slush fund to reward supporters with taxpayer money.

Hundreds of people who were prosecuted after taking ​part in the Capitol attack, which was a failed bid by Trump supporters to prevent Congress from certifying his 2020 election loss to Biden, already have filed claims, and at ⁠least 10 have sued the government for damages - so far with little response.

The strategy has long been in the ⁠works. Conservative lawyers debated the plan during a previously unreported strategy session at the 2024 Republican National Convention, according to longtime Trump ally Michael Caputo, who attended the meeting.

Other payout options are still being explored, according to Caputo, who helped lead "anti-weaponization" efforts in Trump's 2024 election campaign and ⁠filed ‌the first known claim under the now-abandoned "weaponization" fund.

"I've heard no indication that they've slowed down on trying to get victims paid," Caputo said, adding that administration officials have told him to "watch this space."

Caputo, who served as a Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson during Trump's first term, asked acting Attorney General Todd Blanche for $2.7 million in "restitution" over investigations by the Biden administration and former special counsel Robert Mueller.

"It's the most logistically feasible method," said Patrick Jaicomo, a senior attorney at the libertarian legal group Institute for Justice who specializes in Federal Tort Claims Act cases. "The government would have a ⁠lot of flexibility."

Trump's repeated support for compensating supporters he paints as victims of "weaponization" has raised the question of what avenue he may now pursue to make ​such payments.

Asked if there are alternative plans to provide such compensation, the White House pointed to previous ‌comments by Trump and Blanche that the weaponization fund would not go forward.

"We have no additional announcements at this time and any speculation about potential future actions is just that - speculation," a White House official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. "President Trump ⁠remains committed to addressing Biden-era weaponization."

A Justice Department official, ​speaking on condition of anonymity, said there is no effort to encourage people to submit these claims.

'PEOPLE SHOULD BE COMPENSATED'

Trump has accused the Biden administration and other political opponents of improperly using law enforcement, intelligence and regulatory agencies to target him and his allies. Critics have said these efforts were legally justified by actual or suspected wrongdoing by Trump and others.

Trump, for instance, gave executive clemency to his supporters who were prosecuted for their roles in the January 6 riot.

"The people were destroyed by dirty cops and by weaponization," Trump said on NBC's "Meet the Press" program aired on Sunday. "Many of those people should be compensated."

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham in a social media post backed the idea of pursuing ⁠payouts through the Federal Tort Claims Act, prompting the Justice Department's Woodward to respond with what looked like an endorsement in a since-deleted post.

"We're working on it," ​Woodward wrote.

Woodward later told Reuters he was trying to send a message that people who believe they were victims of government abuse continue to have a path for compensation even without the $1.8 billion fund.

FROM FRINGE IDEA TO MAINSTREAM

Financially compensating Trump allies has moved from the political fringe closer to mainstream Republican strategy.

Caputo said he was involved in conversations about finding ways to pay victims of "weaponization" dating back to October 2023.

In 1956, Congress created a permanent Judgment Fund for paying settlements of lawsuits against the federal government.

Caputo said that allies of the president and conservative lawyers discussed using this fund for payouts under the Federal Tort Claims Act "ad ⁠nauseam" during the 2024 Republican National Convention. Attendees at these discussions opposed paying violent felons, including those who assaulted police officers, according to Caputo.

The attendees viewed the Judgment Fund as a "limitless" pot of money that would avoid the political hurdles of creating a new administrative fund, Caputo said, though they acknowledged these payouts could be controversial.

Some high-profile Trump allies already have received payouts under the Federal Tort Claims Act. Michael Flynn, who briefly served as Trump's national security adviser during his first term, received a $1.25 million settlement under the statute.

Attorney Peter Ticktin said his office is representing more than 400 people who took part in the Capitol riot who have submitted Federal Tort Claims Act claims. Ticktin said he hopes the government will settle the cases before they go to court, but has not been told of any plans to do so.

"We're asking for restitution in the millions of dollars," Ticktin said, adding that he trusts that ​Trump and the Justice Department will ensure that his clients get paid.

'A TRAVESTY'

The administrative process for a Federal Tort Claims Act claim begins when a person files a form, known as an SF-95, alleging government wrongdoing and ⁠demanding damages.

Claims typically must be filed within two years of the incident, but January 6 defendants are arguing that the alleged wrongdoing against them constitutes ongoing harm. It remains unclear how courts or the Justice Department will treat that interpretation.

If the government agrees to the amount requested, officials can authorize payment before a judge ​is assigned, Jaicomo said, meaning no judge would review the payment.

If the government does not settle, claimants can file a lawsuit, at which point a judge would begin overseeing the case. Ticktin ‌has already filed 10 lawsuits and said he plans to file hundreds more.

Rupa Bhattacharyya, a former Justice Department official who oversaw the compensation fund ​for victims of the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, said department attorneys typically settle only when they face a high risk of losing at trial, though they retain broad discretion on settlements including in January 6 cases.

"That would be a travesty because these are very defensible lawsuits," said Bhattacharyya, who served under presidents of both parties. "It would violate the purpose and spirit of the judgment fund - but it is unlikely it would violate the text of the law."

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/wor...r-way-to-pay-039weaponization039-victims
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Re: What If? IrishDawg42 06/12/26 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
AI is only as good as the people programming it and the quality/accuracy of the data being inputted into it. Unfortunately, a lot of things that matter in how prospects pan out (or not) aren't things that are easily measurable.

Maybe it starts that way but AI continues to build on what was initially entered. It doesn't remain static.

But it is always reliant on the initial underpinnings. It can add more data, but how it looks at that data is fixed in the programming. It's ability to process the accuracy of data is also variable dependent on the programming.

AI can provide you with more bad answers the more data it doesn't truly understand that it incorporates.

AI can tell you to a finite percentage how accurate a piece of information is. It can also choose whether to use a piece of information based on those percentages. There aren't many boundaries, which is what makes it scary.
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Re: What If? IrishDawg42 06/12/26 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
AI is only as good as the people programming it and the quality/accuracy of the data being inputted into it. Unfortunately, a lot of things that matter in how prospects pan out (or not) aren't things that are easily measurable.

That isn't how it works. There isn't a computer geek programming information into the Browns servers and AI converts the information into useful data.

AI pulls every known piece of information on the web and can then manipulate it to what ever question you want. Right now it is limited by the public browsers that limit it's abilities somewhat, but a program built specifically to dial in all aspects of football would speed the process up significantly.

I agree that the unknown background information is going to be even more limited. As well as live interviews to test knowledge, etc. However, it can pull interviews, articles about off field issues in local papers, etc. to get an algorithm for mental success to pair with actual success at their respective programs. It can also compare that success with the program itself, even diving into the current coaches success with previous programs they worked with to see how that candidate compares to every, for example, WR that coach has ever worked with, THEIR college success vs translated NFL success. It is actually an endless amount of knowledge that you or I can't even fathom.

AI is becoming a living breathing tool for programs, not a program itself that is totally reliant on the guy that wrote it. What ever is ultimately used to pull the AI into the mix, AI will utilize 100% of that tool and make it better and more efficient that the program written to utilize it.
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Re: Iran War II PitDAWG 06/12/26 03:33 PM
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We're still part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

A part of, isn't the whole of. If it's everyone's problem let everyone help and pay their fair share.

As I said, yelling it doesn't give them that capability to act on it.

Just because you don't like a differing point of view doesn't mean labeling it as Russian propaganda is going to help you.

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I get that you'd rather support the radicals that aim death chants at us than our long time allies. I find that ludicrous. I also think this situation ties in to Ukraine. Russia with more allies with nukes would also be bad.

Spouting stupidity like that certainly doesn't support your argument and undermines it of anything. But you do you.

Once again you propose we take on the responsibility and take on the job most of the globe should be helping with according to your own logic.

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I think doing what is best for the entire globe should be everyone's responsibility.

And there you have it. That doesn't sound anything like the U.S. playing the global police as you have been advocating all along.

Yes I remember 9/11. I also remember that many measures were put in place to keep it from happening again. And such fear tactics as a cause for war is what war mongers have been done for centuries now.

I remember 9/11 but it seems you have forgotten about the war in Iraq.
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Re: The North PitDAWG 06/12/26 03:17 PM
Two teams, the Bengals and Ravens have legitimate QB's. The other two teams do not. Injuries can not be predicted. We can only make projections based on the facts at hand. What ifs and maybes won't change that.

Advantage? The two teams that have a QB.
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Re: Iran War II Bull_Dawg 06/12/26 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Trump tore up the deal we had with them. I had no idea that after you destroy a deal you can turn around and say "But they were non-compliant with the IAEA" as an excuse for war. If they broke a deal they had with us that would be a different matter.

As I have said all along they have been yelling death to America for 47 years and they have no legitimate method to deploy any weapons to the U.S. Saying hateful things is not a cause for war.

I had no idea up until now you advocated we should act as the world's police and enforce what's best for the entire globe. The nation they pose a direct threat to is Israel, not us. That isn't pseudo-reality.

Pseudo-reality is creating a far fetched reality where someone tries to create a false scenario where they claim that Iran is any direct threat to our homeland.

If anything we should be funding more weapons and missiles to Israel in order to allow them to better fight their own war with Iran just as we did in Ukraine. Instead we are fighting their war for them.

No, Trump backed out of a specific deal that Iran wasn't holding up there end of. We're still part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Terrorists with access to nuclear weapons is everyone's problem.

If they've been doing it for 47 years, it must be deeply ingrained. They've been doing it forever isn't a good excuse for bad behavior.

Unfortunately, "illegitimate" methods work just fine in the real world for terrorists.

I think doing what is best for the entire globe should be everyone's responsibility. Your idea of who Terrorists pose threats to is nonsensical. Did 9/11 not happen in your fantasy world?

You seem to be buying too much into the pseudo-Russian propaganda apparatchiks narrative. Letting Israel stand alone against China and Russia backed Iran is bad policy. Iran is roughly 75 times larger than Israel and has many more resources to pull from. Iran and its proxies have roughly 600k active duty military personnel. Israel has 170k.

I get that you'd rather support the radicals that aim death chants at us than our long time allies. I find that ludicrous. I also think this situation ties in to Ukraine. Russia with more allies with nukes would also be bad.
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Re: The Dems... again MemphisBrownie 06/12/26 03:06 PM
CBS gives murderer's parents air time to lie about "all-white jury" and claim he "didn't intend to hurt anyone"
https://notthebee.com/article/murde...sians-and-hispanics?from_social=facebook
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Re: The North Day of the Dawg 06/12/26 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Third or fourth place seems realistic. I had posted awhile back that if everything came together for us we’d have a shot at winning the division because the teams in the North, after being so good for so long, have regressed. It’s wishful thinking on my part and a long shot but we’re due for some good fortune. I feel we’re going to be good enough to go .500 in the division.

Every year a team emerges ahead of schedule. Maybe that will be the Browns this year. Maybe Sanders proves to be the long-term QB or Watson finds his Texans magic. It happens. More than likely the Ravens and Bengals fight it out for 1 and 2 and the Browns and Steelers fight it out for the basement but there is always hope. I think Sander's development is the only hope for 2026.
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Re: The Dems... again MemphisBrownie 06/12/26 02:39 PM
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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 06/12/26 02:39 PM
There are crazy randos that do and say crazy things everywhere. You provided prime examples of that.
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Re: Republican Right Wing Nuts - Part ???? PitDAWG 06/12/26 02:37 PM
Please give your link and sources to back up your assertions.

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Prosecutors have called the shootings political. When they announced the federal indictment in July, they released a rambling handwritten letter they say Boelter wrote to FBI Director Kash Patel in which he confessed to the attacks. However, the letter didn’t make clear why he targeted the Hortmans or the Hoffmans.

In some messages to media, Boelter referenced a vague and cryptic “investigation” he had been carrying out, sometimes suggesting it was about the COVID-19 vaccine.

Friends described Boelter as an evangelical Christian and occasional preacher and missionary, who held politically conservative views and had been struggling to find work.

rolleyes
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Re: The Dems... again MemphisBrownie 06/12/26 02:35 PM




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Re: The Dems... again PitDAWG 06/12/26 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

A jury disagreed in both instances. rofl
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Re: The North Bull_Dawg 06/12/26 02:29 PM
As usual, it will probably come down to which team stays the healthiest at key positions.
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Re: Iran War II PitDAWG 06/12/26 02:29 PM
Trump tore up the deal we had with them. I had no idea that after you destroy a deal you can turn around and say "But they were non-compliant with the IAEA" as an excuse for war. If they broke a deal they had with us that would be a different matter.

As I have said all along they have been yelling death to America for 47 years and they have no legitimate method to deploy any weapons to the U.S. Saying hateful things is not a cause for war.

I had no idea up until now you advocated we should act as the world's police and enforce what's best for the entire globe. The nation they pose a direct threat to is Israel, not us. That isn't pseudo-reality.

Pseudo-reality is creating a far fetched reality where someone tries to create a false scenario where they claim that Iran is any direct threat to our homeland.

If anything we should be funding more weapons and missiles to Israel in order to allow them to better fight their own war with Iran just as we did in Ukraine. Instead we are fighting their war for them.
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Re: What If? Bull_Dawg 06/12/26 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
AI is only as good as the people programming it and the quality/accuracy of the data being inputted into it. Unfortunately, a lot of things that matter in how prospects pan out (or not) aren't things that are easily measurable.

Maybe it starts that way but AI continues to build on what was initially entered. It doesn't remain static.

But it is always reliant on the initial underpinnings. It can add more data, but how it looks at that data is fixed in the programming. It's ability to process the accuracy of data is also variable dependent on the programming.

AI can provide you with more bad answers the more data it doesn't truly understand that it incorporates.
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Re: Iran War II Bull_Dawg 06/12/26 02:14 PM
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