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Re: Player News archbolddawg 12/14/25 05:24 AM
Originally Posted by ScottPlayersFacemask
rofl

What is this craziness I’m reading. Dry needling is a normal procedure. You barely feel the needle, it feels good and the release of the muscle and getting back the range of motion is amazing for a quick stick.

My sister is a physical therapist. She has "dry needled" so many athletes, including at the D2 level, down to high school. It's not painful.
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Re: Exclusive: US threatens new ICC sanctions unless court pledges not to prosecute Trump Day of the Dawg 12/14/25 03:39 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Corrupt? You need only look at the oval office to see corruption. When you level entire civilians neighborhoods while killing tend of thousands of innocent women and children, you're not fighting Hamas. The entire globe can see that other than died in the wool trumpians.

There is absolutely 0 innocent people in Gaza. Even if there were casualties happen in war. It is sad but if you were around in the 1940's you would have been so sad for those innocent German people too.
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Re: Media and Shedeur FORTBROWNFAN 12/14/25 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Sometimes I can handle SA Smith.

Other times his schtick is exhausting and foul.

He of course is not alone. The players know the game because SA made the game work. Be outraged and talk loud and fast. You don't need to be right. Just keep them tuned in to what you say. One of the worst media members is Skip Clueless. The cowboys fan boy cheerleader. Geez.

The narrative that the Browns and specifically KS is ruining Shedeur is perfect theater. "They want him to fail." "He was never wanted." "They never gave him first team reps."
"They never prepared him." "They took him out of the game when he could have won the game."

How absurd. Shedeur has been handled perfectly. He is right where he should be. He has a four year contract and he is starting after being drafted in the 5th round.

The results and his growth prove that.

When they traded to draft Shedeur. They wanted him because it was a value pick in a position of need. They scouted his flaws and felt he might develop.

They signed two veterans to compete to be the starter. Gabriel and Sanders would get to watch and learn. Pickett fell out because of injury. Flacco became the starter.

The season unraveled. The loses piled up. Flacco at forty was not the future. The plan became let the rookies play and find out about them. Gabriel was further advanced and started six games. He got injured and Shedeur got his chance. He ran with it and proved he deserved the opportunity to finish the season. They gave it to him and announced it quickly.

Shedeur learned from watching. "Hungry Dawgs" was a program to give rookies extra work and coaching. Shedeur had lots to work on and he did a great job taking the coaching and putting what he learned on to the field. It is so obvious.

But they can't beat this topic enough. "He has to get out of Cleveland to succeed."

Guess what SA? He Ain't A Going Nowhere.


The biggest problem I have with media experts like Skip & SA and draft gurus like Mel Kiper are they are not accountable. If it is proven that teh Browns handled SS correctly, Skip doesn't get fired or have to retract anything. If Kiper's top guys (Johnny Football comes to mind) who he said should be pick #1 and they flop, no one really grades these guys. These guys act like they are smarter than NFL GMs and they only know the info their buddy sources on teams leak to them.

I used to think sports commentators knew, but most just regurgatate info whether it's true or speculative. In my opinion, of course.
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Re: Media and Shedeur Razorthorns 12/14/25 01:36 AM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Just Clicking

Not good at reading tea leafs but Sanders has a golden opportunity over the next 4 games to prove he belongs. Tough games coming up for sure.

Can't say I will be surprised either way... But for the record, I like the kid. As a person!

I love Sander as a human being. Even before we drafted him I was rooting for him.

I think if he keeps improving his time to throw the ball and avoiding sacks by throwing the ball away when he needs to that he could have a very similar playing style to Joe Montana my favorite QB of all time. He really minds me a lot of Joe Montana. It's just that he takes too long to throw the ball. The good news is that he is showing very good progress in speeding up his game.

I don't care if we win or lose. I just want to see Sanders improve each game.
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Re: Tomlin Razorthorns 12/14/25 01:31 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
Then again no elite coach would ever want to ruin their career by being a coach for the Browns.

No truer words ever spoken. That's just the way it will be. At least till we finish our 40 year walk through the desert.

We will not lure an elite coach, we can only hope to make one.

It might feel like that for sure. I don't think it would take that long. I think if we survive 2026 then we have a chance to attract a GOOD coach in 2027 once the cap hit for Watson is gone. IF Sanders starts for all of 2026 we will know if we need to draft a new QB in 2027 or not. Let's assume we don't draft a QB in the first 4 rounds this year ... then we will have a huge influx of talent at the WR and offensive line. The thing is ... if we infuse WR talent and offensive line talent to our team in the draft and FA then I think it's impossible for the Browns to have a losing record in 2026 so Sanders will look good and no one will want to kill Kevin anymore.

I also think it would be bad for Sanders if we get a new coach. I feel like he is a QB who NEEDS a stable system and environment where he KNOWS what is expected of him and what he needs to do.
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Re: Tomlin FATE 12/14/25 12:51 AM
Originally Posted by bonefish
Since Mangini was a head coach.

I have never heard his name mentioned as a candidate again?

Why?

Turns out players don't like boot camp style practices.

Or being humiliated while watching tape.

Or being alienated.

Or embarrassed in front of their peers.


And oh yeah, he didn't win many games either.
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Re: Eotab 3rd_and_20 12/13/25 11:56 PM
Eo was a ray of sunshine we sorely needed here. RIP
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Re: Arch Manning Day of the Dawg 12/13/25 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by GMdawg
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Here is what we already know about the QB room so far. Deshawn Watson will be back next season at least that is what the media was told.


The plan has been for him to be with the team next season.


At least until June 1st.

They have already announced he will be on the team in 2026. If you really look at the cap it makes sense.
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Re: Perils when you quit smoking bonefish 12/13/25 11:21 PM
As you age you witness people struggle from all kinds of addictions.

Food, drugs, booze, etc. I have seen heartbreaking cases.

Alcohol and tobacco to me are the worst because they are legal, common, and acceptable.

I remember when I saw the movie "The Insider" about a whistleblower in the tobacco industry. What an eye opener.

I have seen first hand the grief caused to loved ones by alcohol addiction. It has ruined countless lives in many ways.

When I see people trying to overcome any kind of addiction I offer all the support I can. It is a hard road. It takes courage, help, and constant support.

Take advantage of every resource available. Take step one. Then step two. Keep going and don't look back.
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Re: Xichigan Coach Sherrone Moore Fired FATE 12/13/25 10:51 PM
She may as well, 'cuz Sherrone definitely entered the wrong portal. ooo
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Re: Player News Jester 12/13/25 10:16 PM
No way it caused a lung issue
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Re: Player News ScottPlayersFacemask 12/13/25 09:48 PM
rofl

What is this craziness I’m reading. Dry needling is a normal procedure. You barely feel the needle, it feels good and the release of the muscle and getting back the range of motion is amazing for a quick stick.
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Re: Tomlin bonefish 12/13/25 09:43 PM
Tomlin is a great coach and I'm sure he would get hired if he wants to continue.

He has not won a playoff since 2016. Like most head coaches you need a quarterback.

I doubt he would take a job from Haslam. He would have numerous opportunities to choose from.
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Re: Eotab jfanent 12/13/25 08:30 PM
Happy Birthday Eo. Miss your posts.
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Re: Xichigan Coach Sherrone Moore Fired northlima dawg 12/13/25 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by jfanent
Breaking: Sherrone Moore's wife has entered the transfer portal.

She is going for that NIL money
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Re: Xichigan Coach Sherrone Moore Fired jfanent 12/13/25 08:25 PM
BREAKING: Sherrone Moore's wife has entered the transfer portal.
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Re: Trump says survivors of scrutinized US strike were trying to right boat before 2nd missile was fired PerfectSpiral 12/13/25 08:23 PM
I’ve figured out why Trump has turned into such a mean old man. Jeff and his supply of underage girls are gone.
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Re: Tomlin YTownBrownsFan 12/13/25 08:14 PM
What Browns head coach, from 1999 forward ..... has gone on to be a head coach elsewhere? Romeo Crennel is the only one I can think of .... and he was terrible with the Chiefs.
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Re: More Music PitDAWG 12/13/25 07:42 PM
Cody Johnson may not be everyone's cup of tea but I can't think of a better story teller that most of us can relate to........



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Re: More Music PitDAWG 12/13/25 07:21 PM
Someone I don't think gets the credit he deserves......

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Re: Tomlin PitDAWG 12/13/25 07:19 PM
I certainly have no idea as to the direct reasoning but here is the AI version as to why...........................

Eric Mangini isn't coaching in the NFL anymore primarily because his head coaching stints with the New York Jets and Cleveland Browns ended in firings due to inconsistent performance, late-season collapses, strained player/front-office relations (like the "Spygate" fallout with Belichick), and questionable personnel decisions, leading to subsequent roles as a defensive coordinator and later TV analyst rather than a head coach. He was fired by the 49ers as a DC in 2016, marking his last prominent NFL coaching role, after which he transitioned to media.
Key Reasons for His Departure from Coaching:

Inconsistent Results:

After a promising first year with the Jets (2006), his teams struggled, with the Jets missing the playoffs and the Browns underperforming significantly.

Late-Season Meltdowns:

The Jets' collapse in December 2008, losing key games after a strong start, directly led to his firing by owner Woody Johnson.

Locker Room & Front Office Issues:

Reports suggested he had alienated players and clashed with management, with some attributing his struggles to poor relationships and decision-making, such as the handling of the Brett Favre situation.

"Spygate" Fallout:

While not a direct firing reason, the controversy surrounding his time with the Jets and his relationship with Bill Belichick cast a shadow over his tenure.

Downward Trend After Browns:

His time in Cleveland was also marked by struggles and another firing, further damaging his head coaching prospects.

His Last Coaching Role:

Mangini's final NFL coaching job was as the Defensive Coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers, a position he held until January 2016 when he was fired as part of a larger staff overhaul.

Post-Coaching Career:

Since leaving active coaching, Mangini has worked as an NFL analyst for ESPN and other media outlets, becoming a familiar face on football broadcasts.
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Re: More Music bonefish 12/13/25 07:12 PM
I have always loved this beautiful simple song.

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Re: Tomlin bonefish 12/13/25 07:05 PM
There are probably more reasons.

Because he has not been in football since 2014.
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Re: Eotab YTownBrownsFan 12/13/25 06:58 PM
Happy birthday tabber ... gone but not forgotten.
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Re: Tomlin bugs 12/13/25 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish

I have never heard his name mentioned as a candidate again?

Why?

The return of the "Mangini Wars!!" I never thought his name would return to this forum!

Why? He was old school. The run game was slowly going away. The 3-4 defense concept was not as effective.

Mangini was loved by fans who like tough, defensive-minded concepts with a heavy run offense. Fans who disliked Mangini loved the passing game and the 4-3 defensive scheme.
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