DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns indicate they'll cut Johnny Manziel March 9

Trying to get attention? Seriously?

I just wonder if you are such a fan of the Browns that you don't want anything negative said about Haslam because it takes away from the dream of the Browns actually succeeding, so instead, you try and make it about me rather than Haslam?

I do admire your creativity, though.....

Are you.. not a fan of the Browns?

I was, but what does that have to do w/Haslam being a crook?

I apologize if that's not what you are doing. But you probably understand where I'm coming from, it is you.



Nope. I would love to discuss Haslam with you, but there is currently no thread available to converse about that topic.

Nothing.

You're just a guy thats (admittingly) not a fan of the Browns and Cavs, who only talks negative about them, on a Browns board..

I had a word for that.. cant seem to remember it..

Good, let him "wreck the league" with the Cowboys, Rams or Chiefs. Bye, bye..........this is really funny.

Ahhhh...make it about me when you don't have a sound argument. How refreshingly new.

I have a question for you: How comfortable are you w/knowing that the owner of the team is a crook and a liar?

If the team wins?

Id be more comfortable with it than if he won cheating the game. Or if our star QB was accused of something much worse than what you are accusing (seeing as you have no actual proof) Haslem of.

But I'm sure most Pats and Steelers fans were comfortable watching their teams win regardless of those things.

It's a valid question. If you're not a fan of the Browns or Cavs and you're constantly negative, why are you here? This is a thread about the potential cutting of a stinky QB and you've hijacked the thread to call the owner a crook too many times to count.

You're simply trolling the board to instigate other members. Every post of yours belongs in the Smack Shack.

Stop blaming the girl. Manziel is a grown individual (I will refrain from calling him a man) who makes his own choices. He needs help, he will get it when he is ready. These types of people will cease to exist in his life when he is ready and he will make the changes.

He and only he is responsible for his choices.

I have no proof? Really? So Haslam paid over $150 MILLION because he is innocent?

Haslam didn't pay anything.

Pilot did.

LOL...........okay.

U srs?

Good riddance to the drunk spoiled punk. Simply drained the franchise over the past two years.

Hopefully, adults committed to being professional football players will be the norm in Berea going forward.

Can't wait for March 9. It will be a GLORIOUS day for the Cleveland Browns!

You know as well as I do that him ponying up the cash and his guilt/innocence probably have nothing to do with each other. Even if it does, we'll never know for sure, as there's no evidence that Haslam actually knew (and I, personally, can buy that explanation withe size of PFJ).

As for the actual topic of the thread (Manziel)... are we really going to get this bent out of shape over a QB that played sparingly over 2 seasons and still wound up injured in both, showed no drive to become a legit NFL QB, and was a crappy teammate?

"diarrhea from Berea..."
sheer poetry!
Mohammed Ali's got nothin' on you, son!

Vers: it's not healthy to hold things in like that. Bad for your blood pressure, you know?

(Just messin' with you a little....)

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I understand your mistrust. I didn't trust Haslam on Day One- and I'm still not sold on anything the Browns will be doing this year. Like I said a couple weeks ago, I won't start trusting anything for two full seasons- and I haven't changed that stance one bit. So I get it.

As for Haslam, I stop short of calling him a liar, but it's mostly because I'm a 'word usage nazi.' To me, a liar is someone who issues a statement he KNOWS IS FALSE, in an effort to intentionally mislead. I don't think that was Jimmy's intention. I think he really did believe in continuity, but went back on his word in a panic when things fell apart with LomBanner and ChudNorvRay. He pulled the plug AGAIN when the stink between Farmer and Pettine started fouling the air in Berea yet again.

Now look- I agree that it sucks, and I too feel betrayed (as you well know from our chats), but I don't think he intentionally set out to actually tell lies.

End results feel the same, but I think you and I see his original motivations from different POV's.

Just another .02 on this painful subject,
Clem

You should probably start a thread for that topic, then.
The topic in this thread is Manziel.

In all honesty Purp, most threads take on a life of their own, often times going way off topic. In recent months most of them become Johnny Manziel threads regardless of the original topic.

Hardly worth the celebration... smh

Some threads evolve, others are intentionally redirected.

Manziel will be gone, Blatt is gone.. Haslam, Gordon, and LeBron are still here... Vers considers this to be a grave injustice... Nobody is going to talk him out of it and I suppose he will bring it up every chance he gets...

You forgot retawegdirB yddeT.

LOL. Where he wants to be? Seriously?

This dude will be lucky if ONE team offers him a ONE YEAR contract. Manziel has no say in where he ends up.

God, you've become so unreadable it isn't even funny anymore.

You lost all respect with the comment the other day about the fact you hope the team MOVES.

You're a one way train wreck. Every word out of your mouth just screams sarcasm, negativity and hopes for controversy.

You never even talk football anymore. Sad.

Anyone? Is there an Ignore Button on this site? I get sick to my stomach reading this guy.

Click on the name you want to ignore, then view profile, and then ignore on the profile page.

j/c

I'm just surprised it's taken this long. I understand the investment we had with him, but I would have cut him loose a while ago. It's sad that we've literally wasted 1st round draft picks ... think if we would have had Carr, Beckham Jr., Khalil Mack, etc ... just sad

That would be the thought and why I think it foolish to make a move on the guy March 9, unless the Browns and some other team have already have a handshake, and now must wait.

I understand Hue wanting to start fresh. I am good with that. With all JM has brought, I am now good with moving in another direction. I understand you don't want to go to camp with the guy. I just don't get with the announcement and not keeping him through the draft.

Any possibility of them keeping him under contract but somehow locking him out of the facility while they try to find a trading partner? He's pretty much a lost cause in Cleveland so I don't think that would tip anyone off that the team is cutting ties any more than what's already widely speculated.

I don't think we need to worry about JM voluntarily coming into the facility to workout.

The usage of the word "wildly" may not be inappropriate here...

Geez, I never even thought of that. So then, either there is tampering or Johnny is making it up.

Again, I hadn't thought of that either but yeah, that could very well be, as you say, the tipping point.

Perhaps we are hoping to set up a bidding war for the services of JM? That many interested teams has to be lucrative. Can't imagine the bids.

Let's bundle Bowe with it and see what the package might produce.

Again, that's another thing I hadn't really noticed. I mean, Sashi doesn't come right out and say they will cut him, but the way he worded it could lead one to believe that's exactly what he's saying.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Correct. Manziel has zero trade value. Once he's cut, he'll clear waivers. Nobody is going take on his current contract. Like you say, he may, just may, get a 1 year 'show me' deal.

Here is a video from CBS Sports Network discussing Manziel, his demons and his contract. Brandon Marshall discusses his previous similar situation and had previously reached out to Manziel to help.

I feel bad for Manziel the person, he's on a self destructive path that might end up getting worse. I think the guy has a serious problem.

Video Discussing Manziel Situation

We would owe them draft picks

Yes, but this isn't a case of a thread evolving, it's a case of a single individual attempting to steer an ongoing, active topic away from the topic.

No problem. I'll stop.

He may not be making it up as much as confusing interest before he was drafted with interest now.