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What? Let me re-read what happened before you made that comment.

Oh..........I was referring to the fact that we already traded down and you thought I was talking about trading down again?????

We'll see. I am keeping an open mind, but we've traded down before and .....

I know that we can't judge this FO on the past FO's failures, but by the same token, we can't say they will succeed, either.

I think being open minded and judging each move individually is fair.

In Pastor's draft why would you trade up to get Cook when he wasn't taken until #31? If you want Cook just stay where Pastor had us trade down too and take him there. More than likely Doctson will be available at the top of round 2.

Hmmmmm.............I do not like starting new threads, but I think I might have to. I don't think people are getting what I'm saying about the risk of trading down too much.

Yes finally BPA is on the way

LOL................do you have some sort of proof that the previous regimes didn't take the BPA on their boards?

I mean, seriously man, did they say: "let's pass on our BPA and take our 4th ranked guy." ?????

LOL................do you have some sort of proof that the previous regimes didn't take the BPA on their boards?

I mean, seriously man, did they say: "let's pass on our BPA and take our 4th ranked guy." ?????

That's a good point.

lol sometimes your posts just make me giggle...umm lets see. how about Justin Gilbert?

KWII, Brady Quin,Brandon Weeden, Trent Richardson, Cam Erving, Mingo...yup I think that should do it.

So, you are saying that each FO who drafted those guys had other guys ranked higher on their boards, but decided against the BPA concept and took these guys anyway?

Let me see if I can figure out why? A CB. A TE. Two QBs, A RB, A center [maybe], and an OLBer.

Hmmmmm......I see a trend there.

So, you are saying that th FO who drafted those guys had other guys ranked higher on their boards, but decided against the BPA concept and took these guys anyway?

Let me see if I can figure out why? A CB. A TE. Two QBs, A RB, A center [maybe], and an OLBer.

Hmmmmm......I see a trend there.

I think around 20 is exactly where Doctson will go. And I might be happy to take Cook here. But based on Pastor's draft I we took Doctson and then Cook is still there late in round 1. If that did happen, I'd be ecstatic to get a WR and a QB. And I feel sure that what we paid to get from 32 to the mid/late 20's would be less than we got for moving down. Winner winner chicken dinner.

I live in SC and I can tell you that I always thought Clowney wasn't going to be worth such a high pick. I have some stories.

I don't think Nkemdiche has the length, sculpted body, and athleticism that Clowney has, but he is pretty darn physically gifted.

Conklin has been talked up a lot on ESPN, especially by Kiper. He has us taking Conklin at #8.

Sorry, I think you are taking liberties when you say they went for need.

We go through this w/every regime. People praise them. They defend them. They ridicule anyone who questions them in whatever manner. They say......"finally, these guys get it," or "we are finally on the right track," or "I have never been this optimistic before."

Later, those same posters trash that FO after they have been booted out and pledge similar allegiances to the new FO.

Again, I think it is wiser to take a wait and see approach and judge each move individually. If that makes me a "hater," so be it.

The knock I'm hearing is he doesn't play hard against lesser competition.

Browns trade down with Miami is being predicted by a lot of people, both here on this board and by the national media. The #8 pick originally belonged to Miami until they traded down with Philly. Here are my questions:

1, would they trade us exactly what they received from Philly to move back up to #8? What an exercise in futility.

2, would we demand more than what Miami got from Philly? How stupid would they look? A net negative in picks to end up right where they started.

Here is Pro Football Focus' latest 1st round Mock Draft.

Interesting selection for the Browns.\

MOCK DRAFT 6.0: TRADE AT NO. 3 SHAKES UP TOP OF DRAFT

1. Los Angeles Rams – Jared Goff, QB, Cal
2. Philadelphia Eagles – Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
3. TRADE: Jacksonville Jaguars (from San Diego Chargers) – Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida
State
4. Dallas Cowboys – Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
5. TRADE: San Diego Chargers (from Jacksonville Jaguars) – DeForest Buckner, DE,
Oregon
6. Baltimore Ravens – Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
7. San Francisco 49ers – Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss

8. Cleveland Browns – Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
This is where the draft can turn a number of different ways. The next group of players are comparable and position and scheme fit will have a major impact on the way the draft shakes out. For Cleveland, adding another playmaker will make life easier for Robert Griffin III and their future franchise quarterback. Coleman can separate as well as any receiver in the class, he has the deep speed and ball skills to be a downfield threat, and he’s dynamic after the catch as evidenced by a gaudy 4.88 yards/route before the Baylor quarterback position was decimated by injuries.

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
10. New York Giants – Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
11. Chicago Bears – Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State
12. New Orleans Saints – William Jackson III, CB, Houston
13. Miami Dolphins – Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
14. Oakland Raiders – Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
15. Tennessee Titans – Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
16. Detroit Lions – Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
17. Atlanta Falcons – Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
18. Indianapolis Colts – Shaq Lawson, DE/OLB, Clemson
19. Buffalo Bills – Shilique Calhoun, OLB, Michigan State
20. New York Jets – Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
21. Washington Redskins – Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
22. Houston Texans – Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
23. Minnesota Vikings – Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
24. Cincinnati Bengals – Jonathan Bullard, DE/DT, Florida
25. Pittsburgh Steelers – Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia
26. Seattle Seahawks – Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
27. Green Bay Packers – Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
28. Kansas City Chiefs – Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
29. Arizona Cardinals – Noah Spence, OLB, Ohio State
30. Carolina Panthers – Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
31. Denver Broncos – Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas

PFF Mock Draft

Thanks...........I just hope the Browns are not that dumb.

I've been encouraged by the RGIII signing and the trade. I really hope they don't blow this draft by making dumb-ass picks like that one.

The Browns need IMPACT players. Not "guys."