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That's the spirit when you're out of debate options, bring up Hillary again.

I believe her actual quote was Half of them were deplorables.

I know quite a few folks in my neighborhood who voted for Trump. Most are sticking with him, I'd say (just a guess, didn't take a count) about 25% have decided they've made a mistake.

The reason most often sited as why they've changed their minds, He's been caught lying too much.

Thought that was interesting. In my neighborhood, which by most counts is probably way more conservative than liberal, Trump still holds their hearts for the most part.

But what is really interesting is that they regret voting for so many republicans for the house and senate and intend to correct that.

Again, unscientifically arrived at information. Just passing on what I've picked up in idle chatter.

What's the use of having a delete post feature if you can't delete a post .5 seconds after you've posted?

I wanted to delete because Daman already posted the 'half of Trump supporters' thing and I didn't see it until after I'd already posted.

FIXIT!

Yea, your right, it was only half of the Millions and Millions of Trump voters she called Deplorable.

She underestimated, I have no doubt.

40 is like Trump, they can't get past the election. It's time to govern and all they do is pat themselves on the back and bash Hillary. Time to move on boys, the deplorables don't know what they are doing. It seems they've been holstered.

Way to show some class.

Oh lighten up.

Nah. You shouldn't expect to get away with that type of crap. Your innuendo defines you.

The hilarious part is this:


Sorry bud, there are only a few on here that can't get past the election. You're right up there.

I don't think you actually wish to talk about the millions and millions who voted for Trump. Yes, he won the election. He won the electoral college which decides who is president.

But when you get down to the millions and millions comment, millions more voted for Hillary any way you wish to slice it.

I don't see how reporting on all of the missteps of Trump and his administration have anything to do with the election. But it's a nice method of deflection.

I don't have a problem with that. Although, it does get tiresome reading every headline being anti Trump.

My problem with ocd is his use of the phrase he used. It's derogatory, incorrect, childish, pathetic, and used as nothing but slam.

It has no basis in fact. And he claims to be above that? Nah, he's not above it, he's right on it.

And, add in the other poster that said there were no scandals in the white house for 8 years? Dang. Forgetfulness is no excuse for idiocy. But, idiocy CAN be an excuse for just being dumb, childish, and immature.

I don't disagree with you but I find it odd that you don't seem to be even handed in your critique. 40 does this all of the time and I don't recall you admonishing him or eve about it.

I agree it happens all the time but I think it involves both sides, not one.

You crack me up with your holier than thou act! Get off your pretentious high horse already... 40 comes on here and says outlandish things all the time, just to be provocative. I fire back with a little humorous slight and you get your panties in a bunch.

And for your information, the libs on here are very much over the election; you don't here us droaning on an on about Hillary this or that, that's the Trump supporters defending his ineptitude!

Where is your outrage over "snowflake" and "libtard" there nancy? Oh that's classy in your book... You are the definition of the easily offended feminine old prude. As long as it fit's your beliefs it's okay.

EVERY TIME I SEE 'SNOWFLAKE' USED, I WILL USE 'HOLSTERED'. Period. I'm going to use it whenever I feel the urge as a matter of fact, so stuff that in your pipe and smoke it.

I have always found Arch to be a class act.

I also know he has a good nose because he always knows a turd when he smells one.

I like arch too. But he should not get in my way when it comes to our daily knock down drag out 40, that's a dangerous place to be because I'm lashing out at anybody and everybody that opposes me, just like Trump!(so you should respect that)

And I'll be a turd if it helps you out because being holstered must really suck.

Lash out all you want, just do it with some class already.

You see anybody else lashing out with sexual nonsense or face blasting?

Just behave a little bit.

Leave OCD alone, He knows all about holstering. He's a subject matter expert in this area. Bernies red rider bb gun needs a place to live, after all.

Nope, you don't get to steal holstering snowflake.

Holstering is a Trump thang. lol And his supporters are holstered.

Just like Bernie supporters. I dont know which is grosser.

Trump supporters are the grossest by far. Just look in the mirror.

Apparently you are blind from looking at your own reflection. Because if you could read you would know that Im a libertarian.

You said just the other day that you voted for Trump when you were mad about the medical bill passage. A vote for Trump = Trump Supporter, period.

Libertarian, contrarian, platitudinarian, solitudinarian, valetudinarian... whatever Arian word fits you best, you voted for Trump and you ARE a Trump Supporter.

I also said I only voted for him because the other choices were crap. Pay attention. Overall I think he isnt doing a good job. Everything he does seems to be slanted towards big business. The only thing I like has been his foreign policy.

However, at least I voted. Cant say the same for you. All the lazy liberals who couldnt be bothered to vote have no place to complain. Youre basically the reason Trump is in the WH.

Touche

I can't speak for anyone else who didn't vote for president. While I voted, I couldn't vote for either of the top two candidates. Now I'm not directing this towards you or anyone else who voted for one of the top two candidates. This is simply my reasoning.

I have a threshold of competency that I expect from any candidate that I vote for. To me, my vote is an extremely valuable thing. I don't simply give away something I hold great value of. It's something I only give to someone I find deserving of it.

I believe that a sovereign nation needs strong borders. I'm a firm supporter of a strong second amendment. I don't like a lot of the trade deals that have been made in the past. So I'm not actually what is considered a flaming liberal as some on this board seem to wish to perpetuate.

Yet much like you, I believe that the life and health of our citizens is something every one should want and uphold. I don't believe in raping the health care system to give a huge tax cut that will mainly go to big business and the wealthy.

The problem this time around is neither candidate was trustworthy enough to earn my vote. Neither held the moral character for me to trust their word nor their intensions. Now you can take issue with that if you like, but it's my opinion everyone should set some minimum standard for a candidate to earn their vote.

This is why all the back and forth on here puzzles me sometimes. To some extent most of us have some common ground on at least some issues. I believe I just pointed out some we agree on. Yet it seems anyone who doesn't toe a certain line on every, single issue gets lambasted, labeled or get cast with some second grade sounding nonsense I outgrew in elementary school. It's a sad statement about our society.

And just an FYI- I wrote in our Gov. here in Tennessee. Bill Haslam. He's a moderate Republican. Sometimes when posting on a message board things aren't always as they appear.

Onward and Upward, Trump rolls on to Tax cuts now!

All part of his shell game.

First they ignore you...

Then they laugh at you...

Then they fight you...

Then you win.

-Trump

Yep...488 lies in just over 100 days.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/05/factlet-day-488-lies-100-days

That's only 5 lies per day, seems low to me for Trump.

Yep, if there's one thing Canada's known for, it's screwing people over

To clarify, big bad NAFTA was put in while Bush(senior) was prez.

Almost correct.. Bush (sr) started it off but it was Clinton that actually signed it. I'm almost 100% certain I'm right about this.

Smh

Ethics experts alarmed by Trump adviser Carl Icahn’s big bet on biofuels

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ethics-expert...-191600456.html
Ethics experts alarmed by Trump adviser Carl Icahn’s big bet on biofuels

Yahoo News Ben AdlerYahoo NewsMay 12, 2017
Billionaire activist investor Carl Icahn, left and President Trump.
Billionaire activist investor Carl Icahn and President Trump. (Photos: Victor J. Blue/Bloomberg via Getty Images, Alexander Shcherbak/Tass via Getty Images)
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Experts in government accountability, including President George W. Bush’s former White House ethics counsel, warn that billionaire investor Carl Icahn’s status as an unpaid White House adviser represents a serious conflict of interest and a possible violation of federal law.
In particular, they say Icahn’s company raised red flags with a successful bet on falling prices for biofuel credits that may be linked to his influence at the White House.
The story begins in December, when Donald Trump’s transition team announced that his friend Icahn would serve as “a special advisor to the President on regulatory reform.” In that role, Icahn has urged Trump to make changes to the federal renewable fuel (better known as ethanol) standards that would benefit one of Icahn’s companies, CVR, which owns two oil refineries. The Trump administration leaked in February that it is actively considering the rule changes Icahn advocates, such as shifting the obligation to buy biofuel credits from the refiner to the companies that actually blend ethanol into gasoline. Freeing refineries of that burden would be a boon to their bottom lines. Thanks to Icahn’s influence in the White House and the possibility of such helpful policy changes, CVR’s stock price has surged, benefitting Icahn, the majority stakeholder.
But a Reuters report last week added an even more confusing — and, good-government advocates say, improper — wrinkle. Thanks to the threat of Icahn’s desired regulatory changes, the value of tradable renewable fuel credits has taken a nosedive. And guess which company recently bet $50 million on shorting renewable fuel credits: Icahn’s CVR.
Trump administration opponents have taken notice: On Tuesday, eight Democratic senators, including Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, sent a letter to the heads of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Environmental Protection Agency asking them to investigate Icahn’s potential market manipulation or insider trading.
“We are writing to request that your agencies investigate whether Carl Icahn violated insider trading laws, anti-market manipulation laws, or any other relevant laws based on his recent actions in the market for renewable fuel credits,” the senators wrote. (The agencies have not yet responded to the senators and they have no legal obligation to do so.)
While the senators were careful to couch their concerns as being about merely potential misbehavior, government watchdogs that spoke to Yahoo News are unequivocally alarmed by the actions of Icahn and the Trump administration. “As a special adviser, it is an enormous conflict of interest for Icahn to be moving the administration in a way that directly benefits him financially,” says Tyson Slocum, director of the energy program at Public Citizen, a consumer rights advocacy group. “Financially self-interested parties cannot be put in charge of dictating regulatory policy.”
Government ethics experts say that, as an unpaid but regular adviser, Icahn is what is called a Special Government Employee, who should either have to divest his holdings that could be affected by his work in the White House or resign his role.
“I think he’s got serious problems with ethics law and insider trading,” says Richard Painter, a Trump critic who was the chief White House ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush administration from 2005–2007 and now teaches law at the University of Minnesota. “We went through this with Ivanka Trump: [The administration] said she was going to be a volunteer and not a federal employee. I said, ‘This is ridiculous. She has a West Wing office, security clearance, she’s an employee.’ With Icahn, it’s a little different because he has no office or security clearance. But if you give someone a title you give them what we call ‘apparent authority.’”
Billionaire activist-investor Carl Icahn gives an interview on the Fox Business Network.
Carl Icahn gives an interview on the Fox Business Network. (Photo: Brendan McDermid/Reuters)
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A White House spokeswoman told Yahoo News in an email that Icahn does not have a title in the administration. But that is contradicted by the press release from December announcing his role on the official Trump transition website, GreatAgain.gov. It begins, “President-elect Donald J. Trump today announced that Carl Icahn has agreed to serve as a special advisor to the President on issues relating to regulatory reform,” and it goes on to quote Icahn saying, “I am proud to serve President-elect Trump as a special advisor on regulatory reform.” The average reader would likely infer that “special advisor on regulatory reform” is indeed Icahn’s title. CVR declined to comment, and Icahn Enterprises did not respond to multiple queries from Yahoo News.
The White House denies that there is anything improper about Icahn’s influence and downplays its significance, arguing that he is not a federal employee and therefore not subject to any ethics rules. “Mr. Icahn will be speaking with the President solely in his individual capacity and will not be serving as a federal employee nor as a Special Government Employee and will not have any specific duties,” a White House official, who communicated on the condition of anonymity when discussing personnel matters, emailed Yahoo News. “He is simply a private citizen whose opinion the President respects and whom the President speaks with from time to time.”
That statement also echoes a disclaimer in the original press release: “Carl Icahn will be advising the President in his individual capacity and will not be serving as a federal employee or a Special Government Employee and will not have any specific duties.”
But experts say that, even without a title, whether Icahn meets the criteria for a government employee is determined by how he interacts with the administration. “He’s not just an outside adviser,” says Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a nonpartisan government accountability advocacy organization. “He has been given the aura of the presidency, of the White House behind him. It’s not like the president calling a banker in New York and getting advice on banking policy. [The banker] would not have the power and influence to go into the White House and EPA and lobby for policies.” In that position, according to Wertheimer, it’s unethical for Icahn to promote policies that help his own business. Instead, he is supposed to advance the national interest, regardless of its impact on his own bank account.
To outside critics, the Icahn situation embodies the degradation of governance that Trump represents. “This whole thing is unseemly,” Wertheimer concluded. “It’s not the way government is supposed to run.”

Yo 40 ... u sick of winnng yet .... u sick of watching the snowflakes melt ...

I'm not sure witch one i enjoy more ...

Enjoy....

We never get tired of winning!

I see Mr.President has signed a new trade deal with China which opens up Chinese markets to American beef again.

I see Mr.President has got the FBI, CIA, and NSA running around in circles as he challenges corruption and drains that smelly swamp.

I see where Bernie's wife is under investigation for fraud.

And finally, I see the Left still has zero evidence of collusion between Mr.President and the Rooskies.

Smells like winning to me!

Trump says...

"What separates the winners from the losers
is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate."

"Of course the world is against me,
It wouldn't be fair otherwise!"

"As long as you're going to be thinking anyway, Think Big!"

Stump your enemies, see them Triggered before you.
Hear the Lamentations of the Leftists.