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I completely agree. The only other thing to consider is that Irsay is a freaking nut! Dude has serious problems.

So luck would be a game changer ? But not Wentz, Watson , Goff or someone else with their ability and ceiling ? Luck has shown to be a good QB but now is estroyed because the Colts refused to put together a team around him in a good amount of time " They still have not " So he is now alwasy hurt because he put team on shoulders. Browns need to draft best Available QB and keep doing it until they hit. Stick with the same QB for the whole year through ups and downs. Have plenty of draft picks to fill the wholes with decent players and the cap space to cover the rest

Bingo. Irsay is definitely a kook. I don't think it is likely that the Colts part with Luck, but if there is even a 1% chance we should be on the phone with them. No one can outbid us.

I'm not sure where I read this or maybe it was on TV.. Can't remember, but Lucks career is in danger of being over.

I'd sure as hell would want to know more..

Good to see this said here. You don't "come back" equally from all injuries, and shoulders and throwing motions can be iffy. This would be a hazardous trade IMO. Luck damaged is better than Kizer as far as playability. Just really more risky.

Decisions in football really boil down to considering every outcome possible, both good and bad, and deciding. I just see a lot of potential waste and failure. Others like to draw to inside straights regularly. They go with their gut.

Not sure if we have a playable winner in Luck; Irsay might slobber over the trade after TR. But as I said earlier, I want that chat and those details if they become available.

There's just one thing if we were to get Andrew Luck: the neckbeard has to go. I'm sorry, it just does.

If we get a QB who can win, I don't care if he has an eye brow beard.

It gets cold here, though... lol.

It sounds to me like the Colts are worried that he might never play again.

Just make sure that he's healthy before we trade the farm.

That's my only thing... confirm his health.

I'm not sure we could get his physical done before the trade deadline.

Funny, but oh so true.

Sashi would have teleported to the league office if he could get Luck.

i do think he is overrated...nobody agrees....but i think he is imo

If Brissett continues to show he can play and the Colts are serious about cutting ties with Luck, one place I think you could see him go is Arizona. The Arians connection is obvious.

Ding, ding, ding, ding - could not agree more - if Arians is still around.


I think, unless the Browns throw a staggering amount of money at the prospective FA or waived/cut QBs (Smith, Luck, Cousins, etc.), they will be signing with teams which are less dysfunctional.

I didn't even think about that... but yes, makes total sense. Like others have said, what about Arians himself coming back?

You can say the same thing about every starting QB in the NFL. Case in point, Trent Dilfer.

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Its absurd to think the Colts are going to let Luck go because Jacoby Brissett is playing well ... Brissett couldn’t carry a healthy Luck’s jock ..

That makes no sense what so ever ...

I agree, but what really blows is that Brisset looks way better than any qb on our roster.

*LOL* ....

BO looks better than any qb on our roster ... thats not a very high bar ...

And in Ck’s half a game ... he made 3 or 4 passes he would have never made last year .. the 25 yard touch pass to i think it was Njoku on the sideline .. may have been de valve ...
the seem pass 25 yards or so downfield to NJOKU ... there were 1 or 2 others ...

I’d like to see more of him to see if that was a fluke or the light starting to click for him ... its really a shame Joe got hurt that game .. i will go to my grave believing we win if Joe stays out there ..

I guess my point was that Brisset is actually playing better than I thought and he looks like a guy who could develop.

I agree on Brissett .. hes shocked me with how well he’s played ...

Brissett looks good IMO (at least better than I expected) ... he's serviceable and would be our best QB by a mile

Please let me know when your going to start really getting into it ... i really enjoyed the convo last year and learned a ton form a bucnh of posters with you right up there at the top ...

I couldn’t believe that site was free last year .. I’ll be more than happy to pay the fee to watch the film ... especially if i can discuss it with you and ask you questions ..

To me .. WELL WORTH THE PRICE pretty much what ever the cost is ...

Please let me know when your ready to start and whose first ... u can PM me or let me know in one of the threads ...

Thanks bone .. hopefully your game as I truly enjoyed it last year ...

Its the no defense Big 12 remember Weeden was a star in the Big 12

bonefish is the guy I respect most when it comes to evaluating collegiate QBs.

What College a QB plays for means little , Stats can also mean little. You have to look for certain tangibles. Does the QB have the It Factor , does he play in a Pro Offense already . Does he read defenses and change plays at the line himself . The Browns Fired all the scouts that told the FO to Get Wentz . Would Wentz or Watson be doing as good as they are right now now .... But the Browns would be looking better with them .

Nothing is going to change until the Browns get a real GM and people that can recognize NFL talent . You can have all the draft picks in the world ... But not mean crap if you just keep filling the roster with positional players .

Look at the Eagles right now ... 2 years after Chip Kelly Destroyed the team of all its talent and Home grown superstars. Not only Drafting well but killing it in the FA as well. Doug Peterson only a 2nd year HC ... But what helps is the Coaches that are put around him .

Need to get rid of these Harvard Money ball bastards ... Start Drafting BPA and actually use the Cap space with Solid Vets that can help these young guys develop . Might even want to think of getting rid of Hue ... He is not a bad coach , great OC just not a great HC ... maybe get him a OC to help some

Already did the Weddon thing no thx

I would call the Colts and ask if our medical team could evaluate Luck. If he checks out, I'd offer both 2018 1st round picks, a 2018 2nd Round pick AND our 2019 1st round pick. I think Irsay might be a big enough slapdick to accept that.