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and whatabout Saudi Arabia. Asking why a country is NOT on the list that probably should be is not a whataboutism.. it's a legitimate part of the conversation... I'm yet to hear a reasonable explanation of why these 6 countries were singled out. Well once I get a reasonable answer to my questions I will answer yours. I will answer your question.. whether or not you consider it "reasonable" is entirely up to you... This is an America Safety Ban, placing the safety of American Citizens first.
Why would anyone have a problem with that? Should not America come first? Nobody would object to something that made Americans safer.. but the facts are pretty clear that this does almost nothing in that regard. There are still 10,000 more likely ways you will die than at the hands of one of these immigrants. If you had to go outside in the rain, making people wear a 2" thick insulated rubber suit with grounding wires would save more lives than this ban... and I don't see you advocating for that.. banning cars that go over 60 would save thousands more lives than this ban and you aren't advocating for that... there are many many many things we could do that would have a significantly greater impact to make Americans safer than this ban and you don't want to consider any of them... that's why people question your motives.. If it's about saving American lives and putting Americans first, then let's put all of our options on the table for accomplishing that.. because right now all you've got is a wall on the Mexican border and a ban on travellers from 6 Muslim countries (most of which have NEVER attacked us before)... They are both just geared at protecting your white arse from brown people and black people.. not a single word about how your country or your laws could protect you from other white people.. which by the way, if you are going to be killed, is the much more likely way for you to die... I live across the street from an Egyptian family, the father is an engineer, his son is an engineering student at UNC Charlotte, they are Muslim.. I assure you, I trust him and his family 10,000 times more than I trust some of the Americans (white and black) that I see in and around Raleigh every single day... Your attempts to paint this as a safety thing are misguided statistically disingenuous... if you goal is to keep Americans safer, then I'm on board with that.. let's open up the conversation about how we might really be able to make that happen... and the starting point is, how do we protect us from each other.
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and whatabout Saudi Arabia. Asking why a country is NOT on the list that probably should be is not a whataboutism.. it's a legitimate part of the conversation... I'm yet to hear a reasonable explanation of why these 6 countries were singled out. Well once I get a reasonable answer to my questions I will answer yours. I will answer your question.. whether or not you consider it "reasonable" is entirely up to you... This is an America Safety Ban, placing the safety of American Citizens first.
Why would anyone have a problem with that? Should not America come first? Nobody would object to something that made Americans safer.. but the facts are pretty clear that this does almost nothing in that regard. There are still 10,000 more likely ways you will die than at the hands of one of these immigrants. If you had to go outside in the rain, making people wear a 2" thick insulated rubber suit with grounding wires would save more lives than this ban... and I don't see you advocating for that.. banning cars that go over 60 would save thousands more lives than this ban and you aren't advocating for that... there are many many many things we could do that would have a significantly greater impact to make Americans safer than this ban and you don't want to consider any of them... that's why people question your motives.. Ok, so you give me odds that it won't happen but I want to know why you would even risk allowing immigrants from those areas when you don't have too? Even if the odds are one in a million, why risk it at all? Immigration is what makes America what it is but as a Nation, we pick and choose who comes here for the good of the Nation.If it's about saving American lives and putting Americans first, then let's put all of our options on the table for accomplishing that.. because right now all you've got is a wall on the Mexican border and a ban on travellers from 6 Muslim countries (most of which have NEVER attacked us before)... Those Nations have never attacked us but the terrorists within would kill us in a heartbeat. Why risk bringing any of them here at all? Why allow an open Mexican Border when millions of illegals have crossed it over the years? Surveillance, technology, Drones, more Border Guards and a wall will make it a whole lot more difficult for large numbers of illegals to sneak into America. Why not do the right thing and stop them?They are both just geared at protecting your white arse from brown people and black people.. not a single word about how your country or your laws could protect you from other white people.. which by the way, if you are going to be killed, is the much more likely way for you to die... It is obvious to me that you are an anti white racist. Learn something new every day. I live across the street from an Egyptian family, the father is an engineer, his son is an engineering student at UNC Charlotte, they are Muslim.. I assure you, I trust him and his family 10,000 times more than I trust some of the Americans (white and black) that I see in and around Raleigh every single day... Wonderful story, I live near a family where 4 of their 5 kids are doing time. Individual stories do not a Nation make. Controlled immigration and stopping illegals secures our Nation for its Citizens.Your attempts to paint this as a safety thing are misguided statistically disingenuous... if you goal is to keep Americans safer, then I'm on board with that.. let's open up the conversation about how we might really be able to make that happen... and the starting point is, how do we protect us from each other. How about first we secure ourselves as a Nation with controlled immigration and secured Borders, then we begin the internal repairs when it is just We The People?
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conservatives would deport dora the explorer if they could. No way. My daughter loved that show, and the books. But, "Swiper, no swiping" was "Swiper, no sweeping" as I read to her. (I let her fill in for me at that part of the book.)
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He put a value of LESS THAN 10 BILLION for border agents lives ... I asked what the value of an America life was worth to him ... for some reason he never got back to me .... good luck with him here ... PS. CHRISTIANS LIVE IN THOISE COUNTRIES ALSO ... Everyone wants to skirt that issue ... they want to change the discussion and make it seem like because we have bad people it somehow makes bringing in bad people from other countries a good thing ... I’ll say it again ... they’ll keep preaching this BS right up until one of their loved ones is affected by it ... point being ... WHEN IT HITS HOME ... then all of a sudden there TOON WILL CHANGE ... Now .. cue the I said i want one of their relatives killed BS ...  ....
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conservatives would deport dora the explorer if they could. My daughter loved that show, and the books. Awesome, another women joins the crusade against bigotry, racism and fascism. We need all the help we can get.
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conservatives would deport dora the explorer if they could. Why ... she’s here LEGALLY .... shes ASSIMILATED well, doesn’t cost us BILLIONS EACH AND EVERY YEAR and hasn’t KILLED any of us ... 
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Stop avoiding the fact that this is a Muslim ban. You may think it's protecting American's and others may think it's not. But the fact remains, if you're a Muslim from any of these countries you are being banned from immigrating to the U.S. even if you are a refugee of war, woman or a child. While in the USA our leaders do nothing to protect women and children praying in church or at a country music fest from hooligans with tons of guns and ammo purchased legally.
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Stop avoiding the fact that this is a Muslim ban. You may think it's protecting American's and others may think it's not. But the fact remains, if you're a Muslim from any of these countries you are being banned from immigrating to the U.S. even if you are a refugee of war, woman or a child. While in the USA our leaders do nothing to protect women and children praying in church or at a country music fest from hooligans with tons of guns and ammo purchased legally. Just curious, if it was a muslim ban, wouldn't he have just banned ALL muslim countries.........1+1=4 I guess to a lib.
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and whatabout Saudi Arabia. Asking why a country is NOT on the list that probably should be is not a whataboutism.. it's a legitimate part of the conversation... I'm yet to hear a reasonable explanation of why these 6 countries were singled out. Well once I get a reasonable answer to my questions I will answer yours. We joined they're secret club. We've been through the initiation of 911 and all that crap, we can't back out now. 
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Just curious, if it was a muslim ban, wouldn't he have just banned ALL muslim countries. No because Saudi Arabia would kick him out of their magic orb club.
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Just curious, if it was a muslim ban, wouldn't he have just banned ALL muslim countries. Because Saudi Arabia would kick him out of their magic orb club. ahhhh, cause that makes sense, bigots and racists pick and choose based on that...... what a feeble attempt to deflect the fact that your narrative was just shut down.
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conservatives would deport dora the explorer if they could. My daughter loved that show, and the books. Awesome, another women joins the crusade against bigotry, racism and fascism. We need all the help we can get. She's just 1 female. That's called "woman". (since you have a record of mocking spelling)
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Just curious, if it was a muslim ban, wouldn't he have just banned ALL muslim countries. Because Saudi Arabia would kick him out of their magic orb club. ahhhh, cause that makes sense, bigots and racists pick and choose based on that...... what a feeble attempt to deflect the fact that your narrative was just shut down. IMO I'm just telling you all how it's viewed world wide. If you're a Muslim you're not wanted here in the USA. I don't care.. call it what you want. The message is clear.
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We joined they're secret club. We've been through the initiation of 911 and all that crap, we can't back out now.
It's "their" secret club, not "they're". "They're" means "they are". Let's try your sentence, with your words: "We joined they are secret club." Since you have a habit of mocking others spelling and such.
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Stop avoiding the fact that this is a Muslim ban. You may think it's protecting American's and others may think it's not. But the fact remains, if you're a Muslim from any of these countries you are being banned from immigrating to the U.S. even if you are a refugee of war, woman or a child. While in the USA our leaders do nothing to protect women and children praying in church or at a country music fest from hooligans with tons of guns and ammo purchased legally. Just curious, if it was a muslim ban, wouldn't he have just banned ALL muslim countries.........1+1=4 I guess to a lib. Glad to see there maths improving .. Rocket must be holding special math classes with them ... 
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Ok, so you give me odds that it won't happen but I want to know why you would even risk allowing immigrants from those areas when you don't have too? Even if the odds are one in a million, why risk it at all? Immigration is what makes America what it is but as a Nation, we pick and choose who comes here for the good of the Nation. Because the odds of you being killed by somebody from one of these countries is not statistically any greater than you getting killed by an immigrant from France or Ireland or Japan... So I don't view it as me risking anything greater than the normal risks of any immigration. Those Nations have never attacked us but the terrorists within would kill us in a heartbeat. Why risk bringing any of them here at all? Why allow an open Mexican Border when millions of illegals have crossed it over the years? Surveillance, technology, Drones, more Border Guards and a wall will make it a whole lot more difficult for large numbers of illegals to sneak into America. Why not do the right thing and stop them? You switch right in the middle from an immigration policy to illegal immigration... those are two different things. I know I mentioned them both too.. I apologize for confusing the two issues. It's not just that those nations have never attacked us.. the selection is rather arbitrary.. there is little to suggest they are seething with terrorists who long to come over here and kill us.. As for illegal immigration, I largely agree. I'm not 100% opposed to a wall or drones or increased enforcement. I think we do need to get a handle on illegal immigration first.. if we could, I would be much more willing to show leniency to those who have been here for a while and have no criminal record. It is obvious to me that you are an anti white racist. Learn something new every day. You are correct. I am very anti white racist. There should be a hyphen in there, you decide where to put it. Wonderful story, I live near a family where 4 of their 5 kids are doing time. Individual stories do not a Nation make. So you would trust my Egyptian Muslim neighbors more than your own neighbors.. that's good. Controlled immigration and stopping illegals secures our Nation for its Citizens. I agree 100%.. unilaterally banning immigrants and even travellers from 6 rather arbitrary countries is not "controlled immigration".. How about first we secure ourselves as a Nation with controlled immigration and secured Borders, then we begin the internal repairs when it is just We The People? Because we can't do both at the same time? I have no problem controlling our immigration and securing our borders. So do the 90 day review of our immigration policies, which we were supposed to start 9 months ago.. and move on with actual "controlled immigration" and not arbitrary bans.
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It is my opinion that we should allow people to immigrate according to America's needs, not skin color or religion.
-We need tech people so we immigrate a lot of Asian Indians. -We needed coal miners in the 1800's so we immigrated the Welsh and Polish who mined coal in their countries. -We discovered all that Natural Gas on the East Coast a few years back so we immigrated a lot of Venezuelans with oil and gas experience.
Finally, if the odds say a white person will kill me, so be it. But to actually allow someone to immigrate from a Nation where there are terrorists to kill me is just plain stupid, no matter the odds.
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Ask France and Sweden if accepting refugees from terrorist led countries was such a great idea.
The fact is that it is insane to accept refugees from countries that openly HATE the USA. I mean who says things like, "Oh, so you hate me? You wish I was dead? Why don't you come live with me then?!" I mean it's just idiotic.
Who knows how many future problems we will face because of the ones we already accepted. These extremist follow a faith that tell them it's fine to murder, rape, lie, and anything else to non-muslims. They will pretend to be normalized until the day they get activated and then BOOM! You're very naive if you think our police can keep track and stop them all.
It's not like all muslims are bad or something. They are worldwide and there are far more muslims outside of these 6 countries than in them where they are not restricted in travel. If it was a Muslim ban then there would 100 plus country bans. These 6 are just the ones we KNOW there is a high chance of extremist who wish the USA harm will come from. It's the smart and sensible thing to not allow people from countries that wish to do us harm free access to our country.
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yayyyyy bigots rejoice!!! Actually, if I had the thought process some people on here do, I could turn your statement into "Kingo calls the supreme court bigots". Well that would be pretty dumb. I was referring to those who will be rejoicing. Go through the comments, not hard to figure it out.
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and whatabout Saudi Arabia. Asking why a country is NOT on the list that probably should be is not a whataboutism.. it's a legitimate part of the conversation... I'm yet to hear a reasonable explanation of why these 6 countries were singled out. I'm surprised no one has answered this yet. I'm sorry you had to wait so long buddy.
The reason these 6 countries have been singled out as it were, is that our intel community has identified these 6 nations as being either too unstable or lacking sufficient resources that would allow us to vet any immigrants or people coming from those regions properly. These 6 nations were identified as such during the Obama administration. IIRC the stated reason for the temporary 6 month ban was to allow time to figure out where the holes are and how to patch them.
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right, but yet it's been more than 6 months already.
see, thats the thing. you didn't need to halt immigration from those countries to begin with if all they wanted to do was review and revise the policy.
and even if that excuse somehow flew, its been more than 6 months. why hasn't the review and implementation of new immigration policies for those countries been conducted yet?
everyone and their mom knows this was a middle eastern muslim ban. you just can't call it a muslim ban because that would make it unconstitutional, so they have to roll with travel ban instead.
so while the travel ban is legal, make no mistake about it: this wasn't about a review, it was about halting muslims from entering the country as legally as possible.
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Nope. They could not begin the review until the Rulings of those Libby Judges that stopped the process were cleared up by the SC.
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right, but yet it's been more than 6 months already.
see, thats the thing. you didn't need to halt immigration from those countries to begin with if all they wanted to do was review and revise the policy.
and even if that excuse somehow flew, its been more than 6 months. why hasn't the review and implementation of new immigration policies for those countries been conducted yet?
everyone and their mom knows this was a middle eastern muslim ban. you just can't call it a muslim ban because that would make it unconstitutional, so they have to roll with travel ban instead.
so while the travel ban is legal, make no mistake about it: this wasn't about a review, it was about halting muslims from entering the country as legally as possible. I disagree that it's a Muslim ban, but for the sake of arguement, let's say it is.
My question to you is: why aren't all largely Muslim countries part of this list then?
Seriously though... a 6 month ban will keep what, tens of thousands from immigrating here during that time? If that? Compare that to the number of Muslims in the region and the world?
Maybe someone will know the answer too this: As percentage, how many Muslims from these regions immigrate to the U.S. as refugees or otherwise from these 6 nations as compared to Muslims immigrating to the U.S. as a whole?
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which is why it a lot of people have argued it's racist.
people have a hard time grasping just how large the muslim population is. there's even a small percentage of white people who are muslims.
and that's because a lot of people don't really understand ethnic demographics.
for example, depending on what source for stats you want to use, anywhere between 32-38% of muslims here in america identify as white.
but the reality is that here in America specifically, Muslim is closely related to arab or north african ethnicities, even though globally, southeast Asia and Russia have more muslims than the middle east.
so that's the direct answer to your question about why all muslims countries aren't targeted: because there's a difference between an iraqi muslim and an filipino muslim.
or an indonesian muslim and a russian muslim. or a syrian muslim and an indian muslim.
the ban targets arab/middle eastern states specifically.
and then on top of it, the arab states targeted on the travel ban haven't even produced terrorist that have committed acts on American soil.
you get that right? between 1975-2015, from the 6 countries on the travel ban, none have produced any terrorist on american soil.
can you say the same for Saudi? no. Egypt? No. UAE? no.
as a matter of fact, most of the terrorist acts that happened by muslims in this country were committed by American citizens, born and raised here.
no travel ban is gonna change that.
so this argument that a travel ban is gonna keep us safe is false, and what's worse is that people like me only need one point to completely discredit the argument:
if a travel ban will keep us safe, then why isn't the countries that have actually produced terrorism in America been placed on these bans?
and then i look at the obvious thing that all people should consider first: money.
and sure enough, guess what, Devil?
the 3 countries that have produced the most terrorist in America, coincidentally are the 3 countries in the middle east that Trump has business dealings in. He has business dealings in Saudi, Egypt, and UAE.
he has no business dealings in any of the 6 countries on the travel ban.
which makes the point obama making the original list of countries irrelevant, as he ultimately didn't impose a travel ban on those countries; Trump did. Obama slowed down refugee's from iraq, but he didn't ban any visas from those countries, because refugees don't travel on visas.
when you step away from the "omg muslims!!!" fear mongering rhetoric, it's insanely easy to completely destroy this travel ban nonsense.
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which is why it a lot of people have argued it's racist.
people have a hard time grasping just how large the muslim population is. there's even a small percentage of white people who are muslims.
and that's because a lot of people don't really understand ethnic demographics.
for example, depending on what source for stats you want to use, anywhere between 32-38% of muslims here in america identify as white.
but the reality is that here in America specifically, Muslim is closely related to arab or north african ethnicities, even though globally, southeast Asia and Russia have more muslims than the middle east.
so that's the direct answer to your question about why all muslims countries aren't targeted: because there's a difference between an iraqi muslim and an filipino muslim.
or an indonesian muslim and a russian muslim. or a syrian muslim and an indian muslim.
the ban targets arab/middle eastern states specifically.
and then on top of it, the arab states targeted on the travel ban haven't even produced terrorist that have committed acts on American soil.
you get that right? between 1975-2015, from the 6 countries on the travel ban, none have produced any terrorist on american soil.
can you say the same for Saudi? no. Egypt? No. UAE? no.
as a matter of fact, most of the terrorist acts that happened by muslims in this country were committed by American citizens, born and raised here.
no travel ban is gonna change that.
so this argument that a travel ban is gonna keep us safe is false, and what's worse is that people like me only need one point to completely discredit the argument:
if a travel ban will keep us safe, then why isn't the countries that have actually produced terrorism in America been placed on these bans?
and then i look at the obvious thing that all people should consider first: money.
and sure enough, guess what, Devil?
the 3 countries that have produced the most terrorist in America, coincidentally are the 3 countries in the middle east that Trump has business dealings in. He has business dealings in Saudi, Egypt, and UAE.
he has no business dealings in any of the 6 countries on the travel ban.
which makes the point obama making the original list of countries irrelevant, as he ultimately didn't impose a travel ban on those countries; Trump did. Obama slowed down refugee's from iraq, but he didn't ban any visas from those countries, because refugees don't travel on visas.
when you step away from the "omg muslims!!!" fear mongering rhetoric, it's insanely easy to completely destroy this travel ban nonsense. If the common denominator is Muslim, and the determining factor is where geographically they hail from, that's not racism. At worst it's geography based discrimination.
And if there's merit to the claim of Trump doesn't have business dealings in those 6 countries, that isn't an indicator of racism either, that's an indicator of abuse of his office of some degree.
For the sake of argument only I'll cede there maybe some racial components, but even so, the two examples you gave of geographic origin and business ties are still greater factors than solely race, which is the claim: that this is purely a racially motivated issue.
This is like saying on one city block there are 2 taco trucks. I frequent one, but I never go to the other. Just because I don't go to the one doesn't mean I'm racist.
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Ask France and Sweden if accepting refugees from terrorist led countries was such a great idea.
Security Services Foil Islamist Plot to Blow Up Downing Street, Kill Theresa May The Associated Press by Ben Kew 5 Dec 2017 British security services have foiled an Islamist plot to blow up Prime Minister Theresa May, Sky News reported on Tuesday. Police told the network’s Martin Brunt that they believe the accused planned to launch an improvised explosive device at the heavily gated entrance to Downing Street and use “the ensuing chaos” to kill Theresa May. “This is something which has been pursued over several weeks at least by Scotland Yard, MI5 and West Midlands Police,” Brunt said. “It came to a head last week with the arrest of two men, by armed police, who earlier today were charged with preparing acts of terrorism.” The two men arrested for the plot – Naa’imur Zakariyah Rahman, 20, from north London and Mohammed Aqib Imran, 21, from Birmingham – will attend a preliminary court hearing at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday morning. The revelation comes hours after the head of MI5, Andrew Parker, revealed that police have foiled nine terrorist plots since March this year. “Mr. Parker said that nine terrorist attacks have been prevented in the past year,” said a spokesperson for the Prime Minister. ‘There have been five attacks that have got through, four of which are related to Islamist terrorism.” “The Prime Minister gave thanks to the tireless work of staff at MI5 to combat the unprecedented terrorist threat,” he continued. Britain has been the target of three major Islamist terrorist incidents this year. In March, five people were killed and 50 people were injured in a terror attack outside London’s Houses of Parliament, while another attack in May on the London Bridge seven people dead and 48 injured. Also in May, an attack during a concert in Manchester by the singer Ariana Grande killed 22 people and left 59 people injured, the majority of whom were children. Downing Street was last targeted in 1991, when the Marxist guerrilla group the Irish Republican Army (IRA) through an explosive device into then-Prime Minister John Major’s garden, although he was not hurt in the incident. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/...ll-theresa-may/
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British security services have foiled an Islamist plot to blow up Prime Minister Theresa May, Sky News reported on Tuesday.
How racist.
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conservatives would deport dora the explorer if they could. I bet Roy Moore wouldn't 
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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British security services have foiled an Islamist plot to blow up Prime Minister Theresa May, Sky News reported on Tuesday.
How racist. EXACTLY ... it doesn’t mention there religion and we SHOULDN’T ASSume they were muslims ... they may have been Canadian Christians for all we know ...  ...
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Discrimination and racism often tie into one another.
Also, you’re only helping my point that they picked the area with a high amount of African and Arabs to enforce a travel ban.
I’ve made it clear that there are multiple reasons why this ban is trash. You only helped identify multiple reasons.
Racism, geographical based discrimation, and abuse of authority to protect his business.
Never mind the fact that I also go back farther to the actual election season, when him and his party floated the idea of a Muslim registry and a “test”, like this was Nazi germany or some crap.
Better believe that if the majority of conservatives supported that, he’d be trying to push for it.
But thanks for helping my argument that this ban is stupid and discriminatory based on race, religion, and geographical location that in no way actually makes America safer.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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The fact is that it is insane to accept refugees from countries that openly HATE the USA. I mean who says things like, "Oh, so you hate me? You wish I was dead? Why don't you come live with me then?!" Extreme prejudice toward Muslims = A Muslim ban on immigration to the USA.
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British security services have foiled an Islamist plot to blow up Prime Minister Theresa May, Sky News reported on Tuesday.
How racist. EXACTLY ... it doesn’t mention there religion and we SHOULDN’T ASSume they were muslims ... they may have been Canadian Christians for all we know ...  ... Do you know what an Islamist is?
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Once u answer my question about how much a border agents life is worth to u, we know its under 10 billion ...... once u answer that, i’ll Go ahead and answer any question u have ... til then ... touché ...
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