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THIS is a real culture of losing. These guys love coach because he tolerates them not being at their very best.


I don't think that is true at all. nobody likes losing...nobody.

especially people used to winning.


I didn't say that these guys enjoy losing. I think they aren't being challenged enough by their coach.

That in itself is building an awful culture.

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nobody has said and nobody thinks that 0-16 is “acceptable”. nobody.

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Originally Posted By: keithfromxenia
nobody has said and nobody thinks that 0-16 is “acceptable”. nobody.


Keeping Hue on board is making the statement that it is acceptable for a coach to be 0-16 (and 1-31).


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Anybody feel that Crow showed up much?

And what was his blowup about anyway? Somebody missed a block? The irony in that is overwhelming indeed.


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Anybody feel that Crow showed up much?

And what was his blowup about anyway? Somebody missed a block? The irony in that is overwhelming indeed.


for someone who gets around 12 touches a game, and is trying to get the most out of those 12 touches.

I don't blame him.


I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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Anybody feel that Crow showed up much?

And what was his blowup about anyway? Somebody missed a block? The irony in that is overwhelming indeed.


Kizer audibled the play to the side the rush was coming from.

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Liver did shift right into the teeth of that D, but did you see Telfer? It looked like he was running away from the defender. He disengaged his man and backed right into Crow's lane. Next play he did come all the way across the line and made a tough blitz pickup. But Dang! I don't know why he started every game this year.


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no it is not. It is saying we are keeping our offensive and defensive systems in place. it is saying our rookies and 2nd year players will develop and we are adding lots of talent this offseason.

it is saying we have tried firing coaches every 2 years for a decade and it has gotten us nowhere. I am sure no one is satisfied and no one associated with the team thinks it is acceptable.

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*I'm disappointed that the Browns joined the Detroit Lions in the 0-16 club.
*Mad that the Browns are the ultimate losers and a national joke.
*Haslam now known as the most incompetent owner in professional sports.
*Haslam's 'money ball' plan was a complete disaster.
*Sad that I'm probably more embarrassed about this then Haslam.
*Frustrated and angry about having the worst owner in pro sports.
*Hoping the Browns are a lot better next season but doubtful.

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Originally Posted By: keithfromxenia
nobody has said and nobody thinks that 0-16 is “acceptable”. nobody.


Actions speak louder than words.

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Originally Posted By: jfanent
Originally Posted By: keithfromxenia
nobody has said and nobody thinks that 0-16 is “acceptable”. nobody.


Keeping Hue on board is making the statement that it is acceptable for a coach to be 0-16 (and 1-31).


I agree.

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My post game thoughts. Gregg Williams defense let us down, again. No Ben, Bell, and Brown and we still make Landry look like a very good QB. Once again way too much cusion on the wrs. Poor tackling. Special teams were bad, again. Blocked punt, holding calls, return for td, missed tackles. Since Hue is returning, he needs to think about replacing Tabor and Williams.
I though Kiser played his ass off. I know a lot of people on here don't like him but there is no quit in Kiser. I thought Gordon played well as did Higgins and Duke, minus the fumble. Crow was dancing to much, reminded me of Richardson. Coleman was a waste of a 1st round pick. Can't count on him to stay healthy or produce. This was a game we had a good chance to win, kiser made a play to avoid a sack, Coleman drops a pass. Our season in a nut shell. We play like losers. That's a mentality that is hard to break. We need some serious leaders added to this team to change the mentality. That is our major weakness. We have no leaders on this team from owner down to the players.


I just want a winner. We need players who can be part of the solution not part of the problem.
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well, the penalties that led to the touchdowns were the back breakers IMO


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I like Kizer, he is just terrible. Hue made the wrong choice all season to use him as his QB. He's being rewarded by being retained. Simply crazy.

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Greg Williams D did shut them out in the 2nd half, he made some good adjustments, too bad the special teams failed by trying to tickle JuJu instead of tackling him.

2nd year in a row that we couldn't beat the Stealers JV squad on the last day of the season, they tried giving us the game but we didn't want it. A better offense and we run away with this game.

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“I don’t think anybody else could have done this job” - Hue Jackson


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
“I don’t think anybody else could have done this job” - Hue Jackson


I agree with this statement, but I don't think it means what he thinks it means.

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They claimed to have a better roster this year, but they played the same. No progress that I saw.


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Only homers will say progress was made this year

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Originally Posted By: keithfromxenia
no it is not. It is saying we are keeping our offensive and defensive systems in place. it is saying our rookies and 2nd year players will develop and we are adding lots of talent this offseason.

it is saying we have tried firing coaches every 2 years for a decade and it has gotten us nowhere. I am sure no one is satisfied and no one associated with the team thinks it is acceptable.



Well, you're wrong. You're saying it IS acceptable for a coach to be 0-16 and 0-31 because of the reasons you gave. For that to make sense, we would have had to have the absolute worst roster of talent in NFL history to justify that coaching record. If we didn't have the all time worst roster, "Hue is the historically worst coach in NFL history" would be a correct statement. We've had less talent and gotten more wins since '99. Seeing how he "coached up" the young talent on this team so far, I don't want him anywhere near these high draft picks next year.


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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
Only homers will say progress was made this year


+1 thumbsup


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My first thought is to call Coleman what he is: another first round draft bust for us. He needs to go. Maybe new scenery might help him. I’d also like to see us pickup another receiver over 6’2”.


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Stop bashing Coleman. That was a tough catch.

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
Stop bashing Coleman. That was a tough catch.


That went right through his hands right at eye level. Text book catch.

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He needs to go. Maybe new scenery might help him.


We already spent a 1st round pick on him. If he can do better with a change of scenery, he can do better here.


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Ya if he hadn't tipped it, it would have hit him in the eye.


The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
Stop bashing Coleman. That was a tough catch.

Please say that was supposed to be in purple.

I'm certainly not ready to let Coleman go as I think he can be an OK receiver. That said, that catch was as easy of an NFL catch as there is.


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Stop bashing Coleman. That was a tough catch.

Please say that was supposed to be in purple.

I'm certainly not ready to let Coleman go as I think he can be an OK receiver. That said, that catch was as easy of an NFL catch as there is.


I could have made that catch.


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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
Stop bashing Coleman. That was a tough catch.



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The best sarcasm shouldn't need purple.

pm's post did not need purple.

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Hue could have made that catch, just like he could have made that 59yd Crow run. smile


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Colemen doesn't need to go anywhere. He is not a #1 receiver but he can be good and an asset to the team.

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Originally Posted By: Homewood Dog
Colemen doesn't need to go anywhere. He is not a #1 receiver but he can be good and an asset to the team.


+1 With Coleman, Gordon and Higgins we have a good start at WR now Draft Ridley and get a another WR in FA and we are set. I know some will Question Higgins but after I saw what he could do last Sunday when he finally got targeted I'm sold thumbsup


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Corey Coleman is 6 months older than Calvin Ridley. His NFL career is far from set in stone.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Corey Coleman is 6 months older than Calvin Ridley. His NFL career is far from set in stone.

No! We must label everyone a bust as soon as possible and then wonder why everyone on the team plays uptight and with no confidence!

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Kizer could have run for the first down and out of bounds.


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Originally Posted By: ddubia
Kizer could have run for the first down and out of bounds.


Agreed but his job is to distribute the ball to his playmakers. Which he did. Unfortunately our playmaker didn’t hold up his end of the bargain.


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Coleman is the second coming of Jerry Rice.

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
Coleman is the second coming of Steamed Rice.


Fixed it for you.


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Coleman has been disappointing. That doesn't mean he cant improve. It just means he has not performed to his draft status...........just like many of the other guys Sashi drafted.

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