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quote above by Diam: This keeps getting weirder and weirder ... im not sure whats going on ... i dont trust China ... just haven’t figured out what their up to yet ... This is one of the great questions of the 21st century. It kind of looks like China and the U.S. are getting closer... That China is being governed by reasonable men. That they have an interest in human advancement. But I'm not 100% certain. I don't know. Conversely, there's no question that Kim Jong-un is a despot.
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It kind of looks like China and the U.S. are getting closer...
That China is being governed by reasonable men.
That they have an interest in human advancement.
But I'm not 100% certain. Here's one bad sign. Obama was worried about China's huge investment in African infrastructure. (Africa is home to countless rare and extremely valuable natural resources) Uh oh... If Obama was worried...  Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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It kind of looks like China and the U.S. are getting closer...
That China is being governed by reasonable men.
That they have an interest in human advancement.
But I'm not 100% certain. Here's one bad sign. Obama was worried about China's huge investment in African infrastructure. (Africa is home to countless rare and extremely valuable natural resources) Uh oh... If Obama was worried...  Be afraid. Be very afraid. This is, on the surface, completely incoherent gibberish, but I was curious, so I Googled it. He's apparently referring to the Chinese government being worried in 2015 that Obama was being favorable to Africa because he was black, and would thus supplant them as the continent's leading colonizers.
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It's about the resource war. China jockeying to exploit more resources from the 3rd world than the US can. The only good thing about our debt to china is that they are so deep they can't afford to be very openly hostile towards us, that's why it appears we are getting along better as nations. Given different circumstances they would gut us economically.
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Nothing has happened yet?  We went from the edge of WW3 and Nuclear attacks to head to head meetings with Kim and talk of ending the Korean War! I agree. Only simpletons don't see this as a big step. No doubt things can fall apart, but at least we are seeing hope of things coming together. That whole relationship in Korea has been a ticking time bomb for 60 years. At least we can see hope the bomb can be defused.
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Nothing has happened yet?  We went from the edge of WW3 and Nuclear attacks to head to head meetings with Kim and talk of ending the Korean War! I agree. Only simpletons don't see this as a big step. No doubt things can fall apart, but at least we are seeing hope of things coming together. That whole relationship in Korea has been a ticking time bomb for 60 years. At least we can see hope the bomb can be defused. You've got the "simpleton" part right. But a word to many. "Only simpletons don't see this as a big step." Kim Jong-un will not yield anything. He's a deranged despot. But he's not the main danger. The danger is the people who think he's going to change.
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Kim Jong-un will not yield anything. He's a deranged despot.
But he's not the main danger.
The danger is the people who think he's going to change. I don't think he won't yield anything, but he's certainly going to be asking for a lot, yes. Did anyone see Trump crowing on Twitter this morning on how the North Koreans "denuclearized", and the United States had to do nothing in return? It took a good 15 minutes before an aide explained to him what's actually going on and then he had to correct himself with an "OK, so nothing's happened yet, but..." tweet. My guess is one of two things (probably a mix of the two): 1) North Korea knows that Trump, a well-noted terrible negotiator, will yield more than anyone else is likely to, and needs to strike while the iron is hot 2) they fried their test sites, and are trying to use the husks as chips to get what they can now
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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It was like the 3rd time in 4 days an aide had to grab his phone and either delete or correct some insane senile rant he'd gone on.
At one point the other night he threatened to jail Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, and they had to take his phone away and delete it.
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All I want to say is lets hope for the best ALL the people living in our GREAT country America.....except for the ILLegals that is......lol
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At one point the other night he threatened to jail Debbie Wasserman-Schultz This is FAKE NEWS.He actually threatened to jail Wendy Wasserman-Schultz. Someone must have 411'd him, because an hour later, he changed the name. "Remember, Mr. President- there are two 'b's' in her name- and no 'y' "
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Nothing has happened yet?  We went from the edge of WW3 and Nuclear attacks to head to head meetings with Kim and talk of ending the Korean War! I agree. Only simpletons don't see this as a big step. No doubt things can fall apart, but at least we are seeing hope of things coming together. That whole relationship in Korea has been a ticking time bomb for 60 years. At least we can see hope the bomb can be defused. You've got the "simpleton" part right. But a word to many. "Only simpletons don't see this as a big step." Kim Jong-un will not yield anything. He's a deranged despot. But he's not the main danger. The danger is the people who think he's going to change. As President of the United States of America Donald Trump has said, He is hopeful but also willing to politely walk out of the meeting if it is not bearing fruit. He's got this. 
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As President of the United States of America Donald Trump has said, He is hopeful but also willing to politely walk out of the meeting if it is not bearing fruit. He's got this. He literally found out 3 hours ago that North Korea isn't going to do anything without concessions. He actually thought they were just going to fold up shop.
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Sleepy eyes Chuck and PDF facts now?  “Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd of Fake News NBC just stated that we have given up so much in our negotiations with North Korea, and they have given up nothing,” Trump tweeted. “Wow, we haven’t given up anything & they have agreed to denuclearization (so great for World), site closure, & no more testing!” ....We are a long way from conclusion on North Korea, maybe things will work out, and maybe they won’t - only time will tell....But the work I am doing now should have been done a long time ago! -President of the United States of America Donald Trump
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Sleepy eyes Chuck and PDF facts now?  “Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd of Fake News NBC just stated that we have given up so much in our negotiations with North Korea, and they have given up nothing,” Trump tweeted. “Wow, we haven’t given up anything & they have agreed to denuclearization (so great for World), site closure, & no more testing!” ....We are a long way from conclusion on North Korea, maybe things will work out, and maybe they won’t - only time will tell....But the work I am doing now should have been done a long time ago! -President of the United States of America Donald Trump Yes, 40, thank you for pointing out that Trump is so dumb that he got mad at the TV and yelled about North Korea "denuclearizing" without having to give anything up, because he has the mind of a child and actually thought this was the case. An aide then informed him that this was not the case, and he had to send a follow-up tweet (the second you posted) twenty minutes later to save face. I love that you branded this a "PDF fact", and then literally posted evidence proving my point.
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so far the PDR facts have been more reliable than the alternative facts 40 and diam use.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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so far the PDR facts have been more reliable than the alternative facts 40 and diam use. To the clueless, Possibly.
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so far the PDR facts have been more reliable than the alternative facts 40 and diam use. To the clueless, Possibly. to the intelligent, most likely.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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so far the PDR facts have been more reliable than the alternative facts 40 and diam use. To the clueless, Possibly. On Friday, you had a meltdown because you got flustered when people were mocking you for your history of disturbing comments, and you lashed out and insinuated I had relapsed. When three or four people admonished you for it, you broke down whining and crying that everyone was being too mean and nasty to you. You sure you want to jump back into the insult fray this quick? Maybe take the weekend to let your feelings heal?
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That's there go to lines.
We're smarter than you.
You're stupid.
You're a pot head.
When all else fails they get personal.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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When 40 was getting laughed at for the day he spent hours trying to argue that Trump would've ran into the Parkland shooting to stop it, he got real flustered and dropped an "oh, yeah, well you were sad when your cat almost died!".
It was such a weird faceplant, I actually felt bad for the guy.
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Many millions of people of been killed or enslaved by dictators who “Only wanted peace”.
Kim Jong-un is a great threat.
North Korea is not like a typical country. It is run by ONE MAN.
Just in the past year or two:
1) Had his half brother publicly assassinated in an incredibly brutal way. 2) Had an American student slowly tortured to death (for 17 months!), 3) Has savagely killed any internal opponent, by insane methods like eaten by dogs
We should have blown him away after #2 above.
Fortunately, unlike many historically-handicapped people (well represented in this thread), I doubt Trump will make any concessions.
It's very sad for the North Korean people.
But, no deals with North Korea.
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Many millions of people of been killed or enslaved by dictators who “Only wanted peace”.
Kim Jong-un is a great threat.
North Korea is not like a typical country. It is run by ONE MAN.
Just in the past year or two:
1) Had his half brother publicly assassinated in an incredibly brutal way. 2) Had an American student slowly tortured to death (for 17 months!), 3) Has savagely killed any internal opponent, by insane methods like eaten by dogs
We should have blown him away after #2 above.
Fortunately, unlike many historically-handicapped people (well represented in this thread), I doubt Trump will make any concessions.
It's very sad for the North Korean people.
But, no deals with North Korea.
All you have to do is follow the money trail. We are too tied up with China to ever attack NK, unless they attack first.
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Many millions of people of been killed or enslaved by dictators who “Only wanted peace”.
Kim Jong-un is a great threat.
North Korea is not like a typical country. It is run by ONE MAN.
Just in the past year or two:
1) Had his half brother publicly assassinated in an incredibly brutal way. 2) Had an American student slowly tortured to death (for 17 months!), 3) Has savagely killed any internal opponent, by insane methods like eaten by dogs
We should have blown him away after #2 above.
Fortunately, unlike many historically-handicapped people (well represented in this thread), I doubt Trump will make any concessions.
It's very sad for the North Korean people.
But, no deals with North Korea.
All you have to do is follow the money trail. We are too tied up with China to ever attack NK, unless they attack first. Logical response. Welcome aboard new guy! 
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Nothing has happened yet?  We went from the edge of WW3 and Nuclear attacks to head to head meetings with Kim and talk of ending the Korean War! I agree. Only simpletons don't see this as a big step. No doubt things can fall apart, but at least we are seeing hope of things coming together. That whole relationship in Korea has been a ticking time bomb for 60 years. At least we can see hope the bomb can be defused. Something tells me that in the coming weeks, leading up to the meeting between Trump and Kim, you will see an onslaught from the Left in this Country to destroy this chance at peace. They would rather the Country suffer than allow Trump a victory. Hope I am wrong.
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Something tells me that in the coming weeks, leading up to the meeting between Trump and Kim, you will see an onslaught from the Left in this Country to destroy this chance at peace.
They would rather the Country suffer than allow Trump a victory.
Hope I am wrong. I would absolutely be happy if we worked something out similar to the Iran deal with North Korea. I don't know too many who wouldn't. The issue is that it would potentially be negotiated by an unstable imbecile who is best known for getting easily swindled, and who just this morning found out that the North Koreans were actually going to want concessions for ramping down their nuclear program. That doesn't exactly inspire munch confidence.
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TRUMP: I am so mad at the TV! Everyone's being mean and unfair, even though I got North Korea to denuclearize with NO concessions whatsoever
AIDE (whispering): Sir, that's not true at all. They're going to want a lot of things in return
TRUMP: Oh, really? OK, well, we'll see what happens, but rest assured, I am working on it!
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Pretty sure we are becoming bed buddies with China. And this is a result of that. China has NK on a leash and told them to heel.
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https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1964232273608253/Just to remind conservatives how hypocritical they are. I remember on the old board people losing their crap over obama when he said it.
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so far the PDR facts have been more reliable than the alternative facts 40 and diam use. To the clueless, Possibly. to the intelligent, most likely. To those who live in reality, absolutely.
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Pretty sure we are becoming bed buddies with China. And this is a result of that. China has NK on a leash and told them to heel. I'm leaning toward this line of thought too.
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Partisanship aside, I hope Trump and company pull off a good deal and bring lasting peace to the Koreans. I have serious doubts, but I'm not going to kick Trump for trying. I've been astonished by what has happened so far, but like Eve, I think other players are putting pressure on NK.
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We won’t know the true intentions of NK until we get a couple of dumbass Americans caught hiking in the mountains over there.
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That's there go to lines.
We're smarter than you.
You're stupid.
You're a pot head.
When all else fails they get personal.  ... u said hey to the kettle lately Mr. Pot ... Just curious once again ... WHAT EXACTLY HAVE WE GIVEN UP? .. Your boy Swish said were giving alternative facts ... witch is a ANOTHER FLAT OUT LIE like mac’s was ... maybe 40has but i sure as all hell ain’t .... he also said pdf is giving good facts .. I wouldn’t know .... hes the biggest waste of time EVER ... he has advanced TDS ... *L* ... So .. i know this is where u guys usually change the subject ... when we actually ask for DETAILS as opposed to just the sweeping broad general statements that come along with the TDS tantrums ... WHAT EXACTLY HAS THE USA GIVEN UP SO FAR? ... what are these MYSTERIOUS CONCESSIONS we’ve made? ... PLEASE ... EDUCATEE ME PIT, SWISH ... any of u menZas ... I’ll be waiting .... but i wont be holding my breath ...  ...
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i gave trump props and yet you still make stupid post like this.
i could "educatee" you, but apparently Trump university already covered it.
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Sounds like male menstruation on your part... It's Mensa genius. https://www.mensa.org/ Go to the link, read about it, then tell me how being smart or educated is a bad thing. Troll on little guy, troll on.
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i gave trump props and yet you still make stupid post like this.
i could "educatee" you, but apparently Trump university already covered it. Yes u did ... good job ... how’d it feel to be truthful for a change? ... That has nuttin to do with your previous post ... the one i was reffering to ..... did u forget about that one all ready? ... Puff puff pass ... is that how u guys say it ...... 
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I’m always truthful. Unlike you.
Hail hit..err, trump. Is that how you say it?
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Pretty sure we are becoming bed buddies with China. And this is a result of that. China has NK on a leash and told them to heel. Wong on both counts... they would love for us to think that way and let our guard down. Someone posted recently deeply wondering what China is up to... this is such an immediate and drastic policy change... it is uncharacteristic for either country to do so.. It has been noted also that there has been increased military activity by China on the N. Korean border... put everything together, a ton of caution should be exercised...
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Pretty sure we are becoming bed buddies with China. And this is a result of that. China has NK on a leash and told them to heel. Wong on both counts... they would love for us to think that way and let our guard down. Someone posted recently deeply wondering what China is up to... this is such an immediate and drastic policy change... it is uncharacteristic for either country to do so.. It has been noted also that there has been increased military activity by China on the N. Korean border... put everything together, a ton of caution should be exercised... So this begs the question: "What is China up to?" I wonder what the Chinese government's long-term objectives are. I don't think it's "World Domination" (like the U.S.S.R. in the 50s & 60s). Maybe the answer lies inward. "What is the U.S.'s long-term objectives?" I'd like to think it's the advancement of science and exploration.
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