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Frye is what he is..temporary starter..as I maintain , you should be able to look at a QB 's skillset and see if it translates to starter or backup or bust..
Generally, yes. There are exceptions to every rule. To date Frye has looked like a good backup to me but he is still young. Pennington does not have much of a skill set either but he has been a reliable starter. Savage wanted more than that and moved back up to get Quinn. Hopefully he will not be another first round bust and live up to his hype. I can live with Quinn and Frye as our top two QBs.
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But people are asking "If they are so close in practice,what's the decioding difference"?
You say it's how they looked when Davidson took over and I bellieve that's part of it for sure.
The other part is this. When Anderson first came in to replace Frye, nobody knew nothing about him.. NOTHING. They may have had some tape from his Baltimore days in Preseason or from Preseason in Cleveland.. But basically, they didn't have any film on the kid worth anything,
I think I'm right on this, if you go back, DA had a good game against KC, then not quite as good the next week and worse the week after that..
That tells me that the Defense of those teams saw something on film and began to exploit it..
While Frye certainly has his issues, because of his scrambling ability, he's a bit harder to predict... And I think he's more of a Gamer than Anderson.. Just my opinion however.
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No Daman..it's more DA..as I said he can read blitzes vera well..he cannot read coverages hardly at all..U just need to rotate your coverages , mix the zones..he will misread it..
The other thing is touch..he has little ..he tries to go deep ...the ball sails..
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So you give the thought that they got film on him no credence whatsoever?
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Not that you asked, but I give it some credence. It is a combination of things in my mind. The opponents do pick up tendancies and exploit them, Anderson does have trouble making some reads and most of all he is flat out inaccurate.
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The other part is this. When Anderson first came in to replace Frye, nobody knew nothing about him.. NOTHING. They may have had some tape from his Baltimore days in Preseason or from Preseason in Cleveland.. But basically, they didn't have any film on the kid worth anything,
There's no doubt about that IMO.
It's a combination of things. For your point,I think Kelly Holcomb is a prime example of your point.
One game? He looked great! And people "bought into it". (well,some people)  But as they gathered film on him,he was exposed.
Then there's the pressure that goes with being "the man". It all comes together "on film". That's why I basicly oversimplified it. I think DA started three games. If you broke that film down,you would see how the longer he started,the more his effectiveness degraded. In the Kansas City game,he got away with things he didn't get away with the next week and it progressed from there.
And yes,I think his confidence dwindled,the other teams had the film to study his tendacies,he really can't read coverage and it all piled up.
Surely to GOD our coaching staff can see that if we can.
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Surely to GOD our coaching staff can see that if we can.
I believe they can, thus my thinking that there really isn't a serious competition,, at least not as serious as the Team and the Media want us to believe.... I think the decision is made as to who starts tomorrow and next week and the first game of the real season...
But that's just my opinion.
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That is what Daman and I have been preaching for some time now. Too many see one performance and annoint someone as the next great (insert position here). We have too many that are so hungry for success that they will latch onto anything. I hope RAC hasn't gotten this desperate and don't think he has.
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Well, I don't know if I've been preaching so much as accepting that thought process and believing it... But preaching it is ok too I guess 
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OK several different things going about here....
First. with a new system coming in....What would the advantage be of having a facade of a QB competition???? The guy on the outs would just be taking away reps from the eventual starter. Reps that would be needed as we are starting a completely new system. I don't see any advantage to this.
To get exposure for the guy on the outs so we can "get something" for him???? We have one of the worst QB situations in the entire league...who is going to pony ANYTHING up for either of them....Especially when they know that if we can't trade we have to release the guy. Unfortunately in this league....trades only happen when a team is afraid of the competition to sign a player if he hits the open market. And nobody is burning the phonelines about either Frye or Anderson.That is just the truth...It hurts...but it is the truth. We won't get a single thing for the person who loses this competition...
And I don't buy that it is being done to give Charlie a wake up call. The one thing Charlie has NEVER needed was a reason to work as hard as possible.
In responses about Dorsey. I think he stays. And it will be in that mentor role. You can't hire him as a coach. You will always have the us vs them relationship between the coaches and the players. And as soon as you hire him...Dorsey switches sides in that relationship. Things are always different when it is another player that is telling you things. We don't have a Bledsoe or Dilfer or a Tersteverde...what we have is a Dorsey. That is as close as we will get. And out of our crew he is the best choice for that role.
The other reason is that unless Brady completely takes over this year, we will have another QB competiton next TC. And if we drop Dorsey...that competition will have 3 heads....2 is bad enough....But to have a 3 headed competition is just not what this team needs. It needs stability at the QB position...Dorsey will actually provide some of that in comparison to the alternative.
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Good call man... Neither Frye nor Anderson will garner any significant trade interest...And if it's a 7th rounder that's as good as saying :Here u can have him"... Concerning Dorsey...He has been notorious for knowing the offenses he's been involved in...It's not a good thing when u know where to go with the ball...But u just can't get it there because of a noodle arm...But I agree that he's the BEST #3 option on this team...KEEP HIM...Dorsey would help Quinn develop more than anyone on this team... We do need stability here...And the most unstable area right now is the QB spot...And I see that Cennel's "Flip a Coin" comment went over real well with ESPN's Schlereth...Way to go Romeo...Way to run a team that's in a profession that is the epitome of all sports...This ain't flag football... IMO...Crennel and everyone else KNOWS who it's gonna be...And the ONLY reason there's so much uncertainty right now is to PUSH the REAL QB on this team as of now...It's gonna be FRYE...And if Crennel has any credibility whatsoever he will ANNOUNCE it before next Saturdays game and be done with it... IMO we need to go into the season with Frye as the #1...Anderson will be gone...Dorsey opens up as the #2 and Quinn #3...And that won't last long...Quinn will quickly be upped to the 2 spot...And when he becomes the STARTER by the bye week...We then have a somewhat experienced #2 in Frye... Quote:
OK several different things going about here....
First. with a new system coming in....What would the advantage be of having a facade of a QB competition???? The guy on the outs would just be taking away reps from the eventual starter. Reps that would be needed as we are starting a completely new system. I don't see any advantage to this.
To get exposure for the guy on the outs so we can "get something" for him???? We have one of the worst QB situations in the entire league...who is going to pony ANYTHING up for either of them....Especially when they know that if we can't trade we have to release the guy. Unfortunately in this league....trades only happen when a team is afraid of the competition to sign a player if he hits the open market. And nobody is burning the phonelines about either Frye or Anderson.That is just the truth...It hurts...but it is the truth. We won't get a single thing for the person who loses this competition...
And I don't buy that it is being done to give Charlie a wake up call. The one thing Charlie has NEVER needed was a reason to work as hard as possible.
In responses about Dorsey. I think he stays. And it will be in that mentor role. You can't hire him as a coach. You will always have the us vs them relationship between the coaches and the players. And as soon as you hire him...Dorsey switches sides in that relationship. Things are always different when it is another player that is telling you things. We don't have a Bledsoe or Dilfer or a Tersteverde...what we have is a Dorsey. That is as close as we will get. And out of our crew he is the best choice for that role.
The other reason is that unless Brady completely takes over this year, we will have another QB competiton next TC. And if we drop Dorsey...that competition will have 3 heads....2 is bad enough....But to have a 3 headed competition is just not what this team needs. It needs stability at the QB position...Dorsey will actually provide some of that in comparison to the alternative.
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We do need stability here...And the most unstable area right now is the QB spot...And I see that Cennel's "Flip a Coin" comment went over real well with ESPN's Schlereth...Way to go Romeo...Way to run a team that's in a profession that is the epitome of all sports...This ain't flag football...
IMO...Crennel and everyone else KNOWS who it's gonna be...And the ONLY reason there's so much uncertainty right now is to PUSH the REAL QB on this team as of now...It's gonna be FRYE...And if Crennel has any credibility whatsoever he will ANNOUNCE it before next Saturdays game and be done with it...
Rac likes to play w/ the media.. he picks w/ them when he has the chance to do it.. The media is gullible and believes everyword someone says, and/or they twist your words up....
and Schlereth needs to calm down.. I've noticed that he thinks he knows everything... He needs to relax and worry about college football..
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First. with a new system coming in....What would the advantage be of having a facade of a QB competition???? The guy on the outs would just be taking away reps from the eventual starter.
2 problems with that thinking right off the bat Pete. First off, they were already a QB short until Brady got in, so all three (Dorsey, Anderson and Frye) were getting more than enough reps anyway.
And second, my thinking (however flawed) was that RAC might be trying to challenge Frye. My observation was that Frye seemed to be a guy that thrived on challenge. That's what I think anyway..
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We have one of the worst QB situations in the entire league...who is going to pony ANYTHING up for either of them.
I don't know if it's one of the worst, but it certainly isn't one of the best,,, as for who would pony up anything, I'd say Atlanta might be a candidate. Houston has an unproven guy, Detroit is far from stable. Baltimore liked Anderson once and let's face it, all they really have is McNair.
So there are a few that might be interested right off the top of my head.
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And nobody is burning the phonelines about either Frye or Anderson.That is just the truth...It hurts...but it is the truth.
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I can respect that. It's the opposite of what I said, but it's just as possible.
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The other reason is that unless Brady completely takes over this year, we will have another QB competiton next TC.
Quite possible I think!
I really believe we are going to keep Dorsey, Frye and of course Quinn.. Anderson will either be dealt or cut. That's if there is any truth to the theory that Dorsey will be a mentor.. While I believe it, it's just an opinion not based in anything concrete!
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2 problems with that thinking right off the bat Pete. First off, they were already a QB short until Brady got in, so all three (Dorsey, Anderson and Frye) were getting more than enough reps anyway.
But they had to split reps with the 1st team....
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And second, my thinking (however flawed) was that RAC might be trying to challenge Frye. My observation was that Frye seemed to be a guy that thrived on challenge. That's what I think anyway..
And learning the new system is not challenge enough???? He already knows we brought in his replacement in Brady Quinn...why add Anderson into the mix????
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I'd say Atlanta might be a candidate. Houston has an unproven guy, Detroit is far from stable. Baltimore liked Anderson once and let's face it, all they really have is McNair.
 ....wait a second...you REALLY believe that don't you???? 
Daman I know you have a thing for Charlie...its natural...he is a great kid...But if we were to put him out on the market, we would get no takers. None...Because anyone who would be interested in either of our QB's would take the chance of being the one who signs him after he is cut. We would be forced to cut him...Why give something up when you can just sign the kid. There aren't going to be alot of teams rushing after him. So there won't be alot of competition to sign him. Why give up draft picks???
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It may be the truth, but you couldn't possibly know that for sure... so what it really is is your BELIEF!
So when Shaffer politely says to the FO that if they want to trade him he won't be a problem for that...and it gets all over the News that the Giants are interested....but the single most important and newsworthy position on our team might be getting phonecalls and we hear NOTHING??????
Why is it so HARD for you to accept that Anderson and Frye are in(or even might be in) a tight competition???? If they mention another QB with out saying anything about Charlie you are all up in arms about it....
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See we don't always disagree...lol I think the loser of the competition will be cut...we won't get a thing in trade for him. We will be forced to cut him. If I HAD to guess.....I think that will be Anderson....but from everything we have heard the competition is tight. So I can see either happening.
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Besides...Detroit already turned down an offer to get Charlie....
I thought I was wrong once....but I was mistaken...
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My main concern would be getting something in return for the odd man out.
I'm sorry, I apologize in advance BUT:
It's none of your business what the Browns get in trade for the odd man out!
I just couldn't resist... to all other posters,, I'm sorry
Daman...if "you" (and others)want to continue to act like some Jr High kid who follows the local media blindly and parrots their opinions without engaging your own brain...I'M SURE NOT GONNA STOP YOU FROM DOING SO.
We Browns fans see the contract process every year and every year the media tries to make the rookie contracts their business....at some point, the "average" football fan might figure out the media makes ridiculous statements in an effort to add more viewers/listeners/readers.
Daman, you want to be played like that, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
Now if you want to claim that my opinion....about getting a player or draft choice in return for one of our QBs....IS THE SAME as "you" telling Brady Quinn how much he should be paid....I DO UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF THE BELOW AVERAGE BROWNS FANS MIGHT BELIEVE THE TWO SITUATIONS ARE THE SAME.
Daman, if the Browns should be lucky enough to work out a trade for a player or draft choice, when it comes time to negotiate that players contract, then you can jump on the board and tell everyone how much that player should make.
That would be the same as what you tried to do with Quinn and his contract negotiations....making his pay stub, your business.
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So you give the thought that they got film on him no credence whatsoever?
Didn't say that..but when he was in he wasn't blitzed as much as Fryer was..
All the D's had to was rotate and disguise their coverages on him..they knew from film..but he adds to the problem because he can't read basic coverages..
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But they had to split reps with the 1st team....
I really don't think that's anything new Pete... I mean if Frye were the undisputed QB of this team,, are you saying that his back up would never get reps with the first offense? I'm no expert, but I gotta believe that would be rather dumb.. could be howver that if that situation was the case, then the back up wouldn't get AS MANY reps as the undisputed starter. So while I disagree, there is some truth to your statement,,, I think!
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I believe stranger things have happened.. so is it possible,, sure.. is it likely,, I don't believe so! But hey,, anything is possible.
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Hold your horses there Pete,, I never said I wanted to trade Charlie,, I was thinking all along about Anderson going to Atlanta, Houston or Baltimore,, I think that at the VERY least, Charlie will make an outstanding 2nd QB.
As for me having a thing for Charlie,, yeah, hey, like you say, he's a great kid. If you gotta have a THING for a player,, better Charlie than say a Mike Vick don't you think..
But please don't mistake me thinking Charlie is a good guy with me thinking he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Charlie has a long way to go to convince me of that.
I used to pimp a player hard,,, if I thought he had what it took to do the job. But I've learned that it's stupid to do that. Too many other factors enter into the equation.. So,.,No more pimping from me..
I don't care who the QB ends up being.. I know I'll never convince some on here that I feel that way, but I do.
Oh, and yes, I feel Charlie deserves a shot with a decent Oline and a decent running game and receivers that actually catch the ball and an OC that isn't as predictable as Mo was.... (Braylon edwards said something to that effect the other day in an interview) Sure, I think he's a hard working, good kid that deserves that chance..
But if he doesn't get it,, well, that's just life and we move on from there..
If' that's having a thing for a player,,, then I'm guilty as charged!
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Mac,, MY GOD MAN,, what is it with you..
I'd call you a name, (and believe me, it would fit perfectly) but then I'd get banned and frankly, you are not worth it.
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All the D's had to was rotate and disguise their coverages on him..they knew from film..but he adds to the problem because he can't read basic coverages..
Ok,, so having film does have credence than,,,, Attack, you are really confusing me man
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Here's the reality of it all.
Right now what we say, the media thinks its all irrelevant - Its what RAC thinks and says that is telling about the QB competition.
The fact that RAC is flipping a coin pretty much says it all. He has no respect for either Frye nor Anderson as a starting QB. Not my thought or words...its his actions.
You don't Flip a friggen coin regarding a decision process. That in itself says one thing.
He could give two dinks about Frye or Anderson - "THE QUARTERBACK" in RAC's eyes is BQ and BQ only. Now its a matter of educated BQ to be able to run our system.
One thing about RAC...he wants to win. He will put the best QB out there on 9/9 that would bring a win. Whether its Frye, Anderson or Quinn.
Regarding Dorsey...I don't see us carrying 4 QBs.
However there is no doubt in my mind that Dorsey is acting Mentor to BQ...he's no fool on BQ's first day in OTA's Dorsey befriended him and started teaching.
Possibly we are looking to have Frye as our long standing backup QB. He's lovable, competant to win games.
Possibly we are including Anderson as a neck to neck competitor and leaking out all these - unamed Browns official Anderson would be the starting QB if the season started now. Maybe simply to get a draft pick of better than a 6th rounder (although we invested nothing in him but a roster spot) and trade him after a couple of pre-season games.
Frye and soon to be BQ in a reversal of #1, #2 then who better to have at #3 never to see the light of day unless we go through extensive damages. Who better than Dorsey...who is well liked by Chud and who has learned this new system faster than anyone to be the Mentor even though his starts have been limited (although he did start as a rookie or 2nd year player if I remember). I've always thought possibly Frye would be the one traded after this season. Only because to achieve a 3rd rounder or better he would have to have success.
But maybe we would be satisfied with a 5th rounder for Anderson.
In that case it would be done prior to 1st cuts and Dorsey would be implanted as the #3.
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Mac,, MY GOD MAN,, what is it with you..
I'd call you a name, (and believe me, it would fit perfectly) but then I'd get banned and frankly, you are not worth it.
I respond to your "funny" and your upset?
Daman...your gonna have learn when to leave it alone...I didn't keep it going, did I?
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Mac, what you fail to realize is that in the world of FAN OPINION, everything is everyone's business. Your's, mine and everyone elses. It's virtually impossible to blank-out and not have an opinion. We all have them about everything concerning the team. That's what this board is for: an outlet for our opinions since our opinions mean nothing in the real world of the team business. It's the only place where we can be heard where we won't cause any trouble.  Fans who so deeply love this team, like yourself and myself, (and others), can't help but be opinionated in all of it's affairs. This board allows us to agree or disagree, debate and deliberate and learn something along the way which helps us form better informed opinions. In this "world of fan opinion", Brady's contract is every bit as much my business as it is his. Though you can search this board far and wide and will not find any of my comments regarding his contract because I have chosen not made them public, I still have opinions about it. So do you. I'm going to drop it at that and won't address it again. You've gotten yourself into this by basically stating that no one is allowed an opinion on the subject because it's none of anyone's business. Who is anyone to tell anyone else they have no right to an opinion? That's your only mistake and you know better. Now let's talk football. 
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He could give two dinks about Frye or Anderson - "THE QUARTERBACK" in RAC's eyes is BQ and BQ only. Now its a matter of educated BQ to be able to run our system.
That's a really good take on RAC and I believe it's way more likely true than not. And I think you've hit the nail on the head as to the reason he addresses him as "The Quarterback". There's no doubt he is the quarterback.
Keep the "competition" going to push he hell out of Frye so he'll be his utmost prepared to start the season AND continue on as the backup once BQ starts.
With Quinn in the fold as the QB, the rest are the rest.
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The fact that RAC is flipping a coin pretty much says it all. He has no respect for either Frye nor Anderson as a starting QB. Not my thought or words...its his actions.
You don't Flip a friggen coin regarding a decision process. That in itself says one thing.
Eo,, please,, don't fall for RAC's humor.. There is no PROVEN FACT that he intends to flip a coin. Don't let what he says to the media, who he plays word game with every year, fool you into believing.
Last night on FSN Ohio with hosts Mike Reghi and Hanford Dixon, the flipping the coin thing was brought up. Hanford, who appears to spend a lot of time out at camp said that RAC was playing with the media and that he knows exactly who he starting tonight.
Now, I can't sit here and tell you that RAC was or wasn't kidding around for sure.,, (I happened to not believe him when he said it, but that's just me) But I think that we can take Dixons word for it.
I tell you, the longer RAC is here as our HC,, I see more and more similarities to Parcells in the way he handles the press. Parcells either had a distain for the media or he just enjoyed the playing with them.. Not sure which. But either way, RAC seems to be doing some of the same things..
Look at how he referred to Quinn during the hold out... Only as "the Quarterback" but never by name... Parcellesk if I ever heard it..
No matter who starts tonight, I think that decision was made more than a week ago,, But, that's JMO,,, and Dixons also.
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Possibly we are looking to have Frye as our long standing backup QB. He's lovable, competant to win games.
Possibly we are including Anderson as a neck to neck competitor and leaking out all these - unamed Browns official Anderson would be the starting QB if the season started now. Maybe simply to get a draft pick of better than a 6th rounder (although we invested nothing in him but a roster spot) and trade him after a couple of pre-season games.
I'd like to see things go down this way,...but I'm sure if someone comes a knocking for either QB ,..we will be more than willing to listen.
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I don't know about that Calzone,, I think we have a draft pick invested in Charlie and to be honest, I think most feel Charlie has more of an upside..
With Anderson, if you can get a 7th rounder for him, your ahead of the game really..
So while I think that someone may come calling for one of them, I don't believe we will give Charlie up for anything less than a 3rd or 4th rounder and I question whether anyone will give us that much... So I'd bet on Anderson for a 7th as the best we will accept..
Just a guess. But hey,, when it comes right down to it,,, it doesn't matter really.
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True,...but I guess more will be told on CF's actual value to us when it's determined on how well he can run Chud's new O.
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saw this on espn. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2968970When will Quinn get the call? ESPN.com Updated: August 10, 2007 Comment Email Print Our experts offer insight on Brady Quinn, the injury to Anthony McFarland and Steven Jackson's chances of gaining 2,500 yards this season: 1. Will Brady Quinn be the Browns' starting QB by season's end? Joe Theismann: Yes, Quinn is being groomed to take this starting job. Once he gets comfortable with the offensive system and playbook, he'll get the job. The Browns feel fortunate to have been able to get him and left tackle Joe Thomas, and they feel this is their tandem of the future. They want that future to start now. Eric Allen: I think Charlie Frye has the ability to pull a Drew Brees and keep his potential replacement on the sidelines for this season. He showed excellent moxie and poise last season when he didn't have a great offensive squad surrounding him. But now with the addition of Joe Thomas and hopefully a full season of Kellen Winslow, Frye could put up some big numbers and keep Quinn on the sidelines with the clipboard. What's been the most costly injury so far? Theismann: The Colts losing Anthony McFarland is a huge loss for this defense. The Colts were relying on getting good upfield pressure from the front seven to make up for the youth and inexperience of the secondary. Losing McFarland hurts that tremendously because the double-teams he gets allow the outside rushers more opportunities to get to the quarterback unimpeded. Allen: I have to agree and go with McFarland. His absence could deal a serious blow to the Colts' chances to repeat. With so many AFC contenders having excellent running games, it is imperative for the Colts to be able to stop the run. McFarland was by far their best run defender and his absence could result in the Colts having to bring safety Bob Sanders up into the box more often, which could make the Colts extremely vulnerable to play-action passes. Will Steven Jackson achieve his goal of gaining 2,500 total yards this season? Theismann: I don't think so because he's put his name out there for opposing players and defensive coordinators. Obviously, teams know how talented a running back he is. Jackson is a threat to run and catch the ball, so coaches are going to game plan to stop him; his stellar 2006 season only the opposition extra motivation. No one wants to be embarrassed and he's going to see and feel a little extra pop on game days. Allen: I think he can because the Rams are going to try and get him 25-30 touches per game and he's going to make the most out of those carries. Also, even though he's a big back, he has very good hands and excellent speed. He'll be able to turn a simple screen play into a 30-yard gain with just one good block.
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Wow. I normally can't stand Eric Allen - if for no other reason than he always picks against the Browns every week. I know, I know, that's weak. I don't care. I don't think his insight is all that much either.
Some pretty high praise of Frye though.
But I don't see Frye pulling a Brees.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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The knock against Brees was a direct result because of a putrid OL.
The Chargers blow out the OL, with 5 new starters (2 retread OL, (Goff, Oben), 2 rookies (Hartwig, Olivea) and 1 IR (Fonoti)) and Brees has a breakout year and goes to the Pro Bowl.
Believe me, the light did not just turn on, Brees did not change in a phone booth.
It was the OL.
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Believe me, the light did not just turn on, Brees did not change in a phone booth.
It was the OL.
So true,... Funny however how many people still think that Charlie should have carried the team all by himself 
As for what Thiesmann and this Eric guys says,, either could be right,, who knows,, the next chapter is gonna be written starting in a few weeks.
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You don't Flip a friggen coin regarding a decision process. That in itself says one thing.
I agree.....you don't flip a coin.....but to me it says more than one thing. It says the guy is a simpleton and doesn't deserve to be the coach of my team.
He is an embarrassment.
I for one will be glad when that guy gets dumped.
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I believe he will start Frye, he just made the analogy to the coin flip b/c the competition is so close.
Frye hasn't distanced himself from Anderson, and Anderson hasn't done anything to unseat Frye.
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One thing in Romeos defense that just came to me....possibly he was told to say that...or something like it as to not tip off other teams which guy we would really like to keep as the back-up.
That way if someone comes calling, we might be able to hold out for just a bit more.
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'peen, he's just playing with the media.
He's not the big, fat, stupid Uncle Romeo you take him as.
If you think about it, put yourself in his shoes of getting questioned daily on the quarterback "competition". He's just not going to tell them anything. He can't. He'd screw up the entire competiton if there really is one.
In addition, as eo points out, he has his quarterback, he's just not ready to play yet. These other guys are vieing for the backup role. Let 'em duke it out.
It's funny when you think about it. And as Damon' has pointed out, it sounds one heck of a lot like Bill Parcells messing with the local press.
If he does actually flip a coin for this first game it wouldn't matter a damn anyway. In the end, neither of these QB's matter. Quinn is the quarterback and we're all just biding our time until he's ready.
My own stance is, and I've posted it days ago, is that RAC has known for a while now who is starter is. He's seen plenty of both of them since he's been here. The competition is merely allowed to continue to push that starter a little harder.
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He's just not going to tell them anything.
Then don't tell them anything...don't flip a friggen coin....and don't tell them you are going to do it this way if that is really how you plan to decide.
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My own stance is, and I've posted it days ago, is that RAC has known for a while now who is starter is. He's seen plenty of both of them since he's been here. The competition is merely allowed to continue to push that starter a little harder.
Maybe you are right.....but that is a good way to screw up a team IMO. Seems chickenchip to me.
If they are tied, Charlie, as the incumbent should get the initial nod.
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I agree.....you don't flip a coin.....but to me it says more than one thing. It says the guy is a simpleton and doesn't deserve to be the coach of my team
Wow, I'm amazed at how many people actually think that RAC is really and truely gonna flip a coin,,,, Amazing!
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