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Yeah, I just read that.
I don't think he'll have to either gain or lose weight, but I could be wrong.
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I don't think much should change on the weight front.
Also this is still written in pencil. I think this will be our OL going into the season. I hope Corbett is who our Scouts and Dorsey think he is.
We would want all our OL to have less fat regardless of position Why I stated weight should not be an issue. Its pure and simple. How long will Joel take to perfect his kick drag. Will he emulate Joe Thomas' shot put stance that is going to be the first thing I will look at.
Oh Vers...there is nobody in the NFL like Joe Thomas, so its something I just do not expect.
If Joel does good this will eliminate desperation in our next years draft. If the right guy is there where we pick or if we wish to move up for the right guy so be it.
It makes me sigh as we had Joe Thomas for 11 seasons and no QB worthy to make it a big difference...smh
Thank yo so much Joe.
Well not a bad thing. And as for the 2 TE set, I think we will see it but only cause of Devalve, Njoku and Fells in our passing game not in the chip block.
It was already mentioned by Wilie in a presser which I might be the only one to listen too cause it is boring as heck for the mainstream fan...lol
He stated about getting the RB there for the chip block as a possible necessity.
Got to run thank you for the input and we got something to look at in this Hard knocks thing...right it starts today...I know I put it in to record the entire series.
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I read an article (on my phone so I didn't get a chance to post it)that Robinson has been moved to the 2nd team LT and Shon moved to 2nd team RT. Appearently Hus has said he likes what he has seen from Robinson. We all get the chance Thursday.
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If Robinson can get back to the level of his draft status, it would be a tremendous boon to the team. Fingers crossed.
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dont be surprised if Coleman gets cut he really has no value at this moment
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dont be surprised if Coleman gets cut he really has no value at this moment basically he did
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dont be surprised if Coleman gets cut he really has no value at this moment A player that can be maybe league average at both tackle positions and has starting experience (on a rookie contract) is very valuable. Greg Robinson is the player with no value.
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So just who in this organization thought Shon could be a starting LT in this League ???
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So just who in this organization thought Shon could be a starting LT in this League ??? The guy is entering his 3rd year in the league after playing LT effectively in college - and he was injured for all but one week his rookie year. Many players don't really get it until their 3rd year. It appears that he isn't going to cut it or get it...but it would have been foolish to not take a look early in camp to see what he may have to offer after another off-season and coming into year 3. Reports I've read say he has had many good moments...but is too inconsistent to be a starter right now (maybe forever). No way to know that until the pads come on. Like with TT and Baker...they have handled this position just like they should.
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dont be surprised if Coleman gets cut he really has no value at this moment basically he did Wrong Coleman. This is about Shon - this is an OL thread
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So just who in this organization thought Shon could be a starting LT in this League ??? Unless a person is looking to assign blame and attack another individual, the reasonable explanation is that it was a group decision. Long after the players are gone, the coaches [and w/teams like ours] FO personnel are discussing the individual positions and the players that can fit into those positions of need. I just coached high school and we spent countless hours evaluating our personnel in order to improve our team. You move guys around. Sometimes it works. Other times it doesn't. But, the key is you don't know if you don't try it. Coleman played LT in college. He was horrid last year at RT. A lot of people on here really liked how he played. Many said he would do better at LT than RT because he was used to it. I doubted he could play LT because I thought his lateral movement was too slow. But, you really don't know for sure until you try. I think it was a reasonable move after the team failed to sign Solder in FA. I get why they tried Coleman there and left Bitonio at LG. I also applaud the team for not wasting too much time in identifying the problems Coleman was having and taking quick, decisive action on correcting that problem. Let's face it.............you don't lose Joe "Freaking" Thomas and expect to progress w/out a hiccup.
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What do I think? Hmm, I think it's too early to consider Shon a bust.....
But we'll see I guess.
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We lost Joe Thomas ... one of the all time greats ...
I was afraid when Shon was the LT ... we had to try ... as u pointed out it was a failure and we moved on toot sweet ...
I’m very curious to see how Joel does ... ill never ever compare him to Joe ... i just want competence ... if we get that ... i’ll Be THRILLED ...
Now LG is also a concern ... i hope they hit on this Corbett kid ....
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Yes, no doubt there are a lot of question marks moving forward.
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I think Shon's done. I'm kinda mad that the Browns didn't take my suggestion to draft Quention Nelson at #4 and move Bitionio to tackle. But I have a lot of faith in Corbett.
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I love Nelson ... hes a great kid and will be an outstanding leader with a great work ethic ...
But we needed Ward more ... as much as I’d love to have Nelson ... Ward was way more important and press shut down corners are really hard to come by ... when u have a shot at someone u think may be one ... u gotta take it ...
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We lost Joe Thomas ... one of the all time greats ...
I was afraid when Shon was the LT ... we had to try ... as u pointed out it was a failure and we moved on toot sweet ...
I’m very curious to see how Joel does ... ill never ever compare him to Joe ... i just want competence ... if we get that ... i’ll Be THRILLED ...
Now LG is also a concern ... i hope they hit on this Corbett kid ....
The difference between him and Joe is that with Joel you get the L :-P I hope Bitonio is a stud since LT obviously a bit more valuable than G, but it's hard to believe anyone EVER will replace Thomas.
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We lost Joe Thomas ... one of the all time greats ...
I was afraid when Shon was the LT ... we had to try ... as u pointed out it was a failure and we moved on toot sweet ...
I’m very curious to see how Joel does ... ill never ever compare him to Joe ... i just want competence ... if we get that ... i’ll Be THRILLED ...
Now LG is also a concern ... i hope they hit on this Corbett kid ....
The difference between him and Joe is that with Joel you get the L :-P I hope Bitonio is a stud since LT obviously a bit more valuable than G, but it's hard to believe anyone EVER will replace Thomas. That can never be the criteria, or you'll never have any consistency at LT. Joe Thomas was one of the finest LT of all time. You can't expect "the next guy" to also be that. It's just not reasonable. However, other teams win, and have even won Super Bowls, without Joe Thomas. They are able to help and compensate for any weakness (especially compared to Joe) they might have at the position. This is now what the Browns must do. It will take talent along the rest of the OL, (which I think we have) and scheme.
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Normally I stay as far away from you as possible ; But these words coming out of YOUR mouth are just to much !
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thats the.thing some people dont see with the Browns. with Dorsey at the helm they have to hit on most of their draft picks because they have hit very little on draft picks in the last 10 years. they cant afford to merely get a starter.they need to draft guys that can dominate their position and be difference makers
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thats the.thing some people dont see with the Browns. with Dorsey at the helm they have to hit on most of their draft picks because they have hit very little on draft picks in the last 10 years. And how is different than most GMs that have come here ?
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its different cause the culture of losing gets worse and worse especially coming off a awesome 1 31 campeign. Dorsey has the hardest job of any prior GM employed. more losing equals losing a fanbase. anyone thats 25 years and under have never experienced a winning Browns season. Sissy Brown and George the Farmer have really gotten this franchise in a deep hole that Dorsey will have get out of with hitting on most of his draft picks
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Normally I stay as far away from you as possible ; But these words coming out of YOUR mouth are just to much !
.. " Unless a person is looking to assign blame and attack another individual, "
Have a nice day You asked a question and I gave a very sound answer for what occurred. If you were not guilty of looking to assign blame and attack another individual, than that comment should not have been relevant. Just sayin'. Have a nice day, sport.
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By Iluvmyxstripper above: anyone thats 25 years and under have never experienced a winning Browns season. Let’s say a play-off win. Last Browns’ playoff win was against the Patriots on New Year’s Day 1995. Well, 23 2/3 years ago. Wow.
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By Iluvmyxstripper above: anyone thats 25 years and under have never experienced a winning Browns season. Let’s say a play-off win. Last Browns’ playoff win was against the Patriots on New Year’s Day 1995. Well, 23 2/3 years ago. Wow. I was there ...
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Unfortunately, that win is a rumor, not a legend.
Let's get back in that race this year if we are able.
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I feel real bad for Browns fans who have seen nothing but losing...I'm old fart, I remember Jim Brown running wild and beating guys up with his forearm, Ernie Green was good, and Leroy Kelly after Jim was great....and I danced in yard when we beat Colts- as underdogs we smoked them....yet my wish remains- a Super Bowl, love to win it, but just getting to it would be great.....OL, we got lots of question marks now, but some talent AND we didn't have Joe Thomas much last year, so guys know it's them and no JT is coming back to save them, next man up....GO Browns!!!
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So just who in this organization thought Shon could be a starting LT in this League ??? I was HOPING more than "THOUGHT" Hope was that he was uncomfortable at RT cause he was LT as a college player. But nah he just is not quick enough with his footwork to be a good OT in pass pro. Now his Run blocking showed a little nasty in him. Cutting him...I would like to see him at RG before cutting him. right now Drango is our backup everywhere. But I think Coleman could actually start at RG, he just has been labeled at Tackle but he could have a future at RG. Unfortunately probably on his next team.
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I think Coleman will still be an exceptional RT, I just don't think he has the scoots for the left.
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I think it would be dumb to cut Coleman. I wasn't as high on him as you guys were, but he doesn't suck. He may have a future at RT or RG.
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I think it would be dumb to cut Coleman. I wasn't as high on him as you guys were, but he doesn't suck. He may have a future at RT or RG. very worst, he can be a backup G/T. That has value still
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I think it would be dumb to cut Coleman. I wasn't as high on him as you guys were, but he doesn't suck. He may have a future at RT or RG. I agree, he AT LEAST is a solid depth chart guy if needed in a pinch. And for a 3rd round pay, ill take it.
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I always hated the idea of cutting young guys unless we had players who were better. It has been such a Browns move to cut players without a plan. You cut the backend of your roster not the middle.
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I always hated the idea of cutting young guys unless we had players who were better. It has been such a Browns move to cut players without a plan. You cut the backend of your roster not the middle. You're not wrong, but I think we might end up doing just that with our Oline. IMO, we have a logjam of "depth" as far as offensive linemen. A handful of "solid depth" type guys, when we should only carry a couple during the season.
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This is not ideal: #Browns Greg Robinson working at LT with starters. Joel Bitonio back at LG https://twitter.com/ScottPetrak/status/1029095803413966849
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We don't have an ideal scenario.
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In his post-practice presser, Hue just said that Bitonio is still our #1 LT. We also apparently had a bit of confrontation between Todd Haley and Gregg Williams that Hue had to intercede in after Mayfield took a minor hit. If they ever go full Gilbride-Ryan, my money's on Williams.
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I think practice/camp is the best place to try and figure out who can play where and how efficient they can be. I'm good with this if they get the line solidified and gelled.
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In his post-practice presser, Hue just said that Bitonio is still our #1 LT. We also apparently had a bit of confrontation between Todd Haley and Gregg Williams that Hue had to intercede in after Mayfield took a minor hit. If they ever go full Gilbride-Ryan, my money's on Williams. I think it's dumb we're even making contact with the QB. They wear the special colored jerseys for a reason.
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Grossi says a guy was knocked into him, so it may have been inadvertant.
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