DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Ohio State/CFB continued

Said it before, kind of tongue in cheek, but who's to say Saban doesn't just half ass this game?

You get one more team from your conference in, and you get to show your kids tape of a loss for a whole month.

This is the kind of stuff that I worry about when/if the format gets extended. Right now Alabama knows they're in, so they can take the night off and be ok.

If you move this to 8, you'll see that kinda stuff more often.

Only if they played like last week and not their average for the season.

The miracle situation can happen.

Clemson can still lose. It’s highly unlikely, but still possible.

As long as Alabama takes care of business, and we can get a miracle Clemson L, we’re in.

Reasons not to:
- If Alabama loses, they are not guaranteed to get in the playoffs. The committee has never left out an undisputed 1-loss champion from a power 5 conference and if Alabama loses, it could go Clemson/Notre Dame/Oklahoma/Ohio State. Does anyone really know?

- Lose out on the SEC Championship

- Lose out on an all-time great, perfect season

- Make a mockery out of the integrity of the game

- Let a heated rival and really good team into the tournament (I think this is a con from Alabama's perspective)

- Worse seed, tougher first game (probably vs Clemson), sometimes played at a less favorable location, though this doesn't always factor in


Reasons to:
- Get some tape and extra motivation for your kids for the next month


I know you said it was kind of tongue in cheek, but it's also kind of ridiculous.

Anyway, I wonder if Ohio State could still get in with a 59-0 style drubbing of Northwestern. I don't really know.. seems like an uphill climb though.

Clemson losing to Pittsburgh looks like Ohio State's best chance-- also a long shot.

Texas thumped, loss avenged. Check
Big 12 Champs - 4 years running. Check
Make the final 4. ?

Go Georgia!

Yeah, I mean it's definitely tongue in cheek, but if this thing gets extended and you get into a situation, especially where the top 8 get in, where you just have your conference title in, would they at least not be tempted to rest their qb (esp if he's one that runs and takes hits) for that game?

Someone would have to be the first to do it, and nobody knows how the committee would respond, so I just wonder what would happen in that situation.

I have really seen both sides of it and it's really tough to predict, but I do believe we're going to find out as I think this is going to get expanded in some form. Either a full 8, or some kind of extra play in game.

Unless georgia routes bama ... bama’s in ... NO BRAINER ...

U think OU or OSU gets in with there L’s and Bama’s out after losing to Georgia ...

NOT A SHOT IN HECK bro ... unless its like 41 - 3 or sumptin like that ...

Yeah, nobody's saying that, I don't know why you're so triggered.

I think I will go to the bar and watch this. Its going to be rowdy.

Triggered .... *L* ... not even close ...

I could care less ...

Haus said if bama loses that OU and OSU have a shot casue u never know .. i was letting him know that i indeed to know .... *L* ..

I’m not triggered at all ...

Looking forward to watching what IMO is the two best teams in the country go head to head ..

Honestly .. if georgia loses ... and it was my world .. it it’s close .. Georgia would still be the 4th ...

Anyone know if thats Calvin Ridley’s brother for the bulldogs ...

Yeah two losses and no conference chip, you ain't gettin in. Georgia is a nice team, but they ain't that nice.

You should be on the committee you think just like them ... all $EC

Let's make a bet. (Friendly bet, no actual money is going to exchange hands. It's for demonstrative purposes only.)

Say Alabama loses. Clemson wins and is in, ND is in, Georgia is in.

I get 100:1 odds on Oklahoma getting in.

This means that if Oklahoma gets in, you pay me $1,000

If Alabama gets in, I pay you $10

You taking that bet bro? If you recoil at how unfair that bet is, maybe it's not a NO BRAINER or NO A SHOT IN HECK.

That would be a bad bet for you at 10:1, let alone 100:1..

All I Care About Today is Ohio State Winning The Big Ten, Because its ALL cut and Dried Until They Change the System ... JMHO

That would be a HORRIBLE bet for me .... id still make it ... actually NO ... theres no way I’D EVER risk 1000 to win 10 .... so u got me ... crud .. im not a gambler but believe it or not i’m GREAT with stats and odds .. and i have to win that bet 101 times for every time i lose it to make 10 bucks ... ummmm ... NO ... *L*

IF I WERE TO CONSIDER A BET LIE THAT ... i would make this one and it would be qualified with the Bama loss being by a TD or less ..

IF i were FORCED to bet that .. i’d Take bama all 101 times ... ...

I’m a realist dawg ... just cause u wanna reside in fantasy land is your choice ..

IF u guys made it .. Bama’d beat u by 40 ...

SEC plays like no other conference ... they also happen to cheat in recruiting like no other conference ... there NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ...

But hey .. weather u wanna call it HOMERville or FANTASY LAND your only kidding yourself if u think u can play with Bama or georgia ..

Anyone know if thats Calvin Ridley’s brother? ... chs where u at ...

You're a realist. Okay.

It will be interesting to see how the irish do.

UGA up early

I think OSU is toast regardless

It will be this way until they go to 8 teams ... JMHO

This whole hypothetical started with the tongue in cheek suggestion that Alabama should tank the game, so I'm not sure you should be able to qualify how much Alabama would lose by.

Either way, Alabama has a chance of being knocked from the playoffs regardless of the final score.

Take for instance the 538 model. Here's what it looks like after marking for an Alabama loss and a Clemson win:



They're on the outside looking in. This model includes strength of opponent, margin of victory, and many other factors that are used to determine the playoff spots. That said, my hunch is that this particular model understates Alabama's chances because it may not factor in the Alabama/SEC factor-- that is, the SEC virtually always gets the benefit of the doubt in close situations, and has since long before the playoff system was introduced.

It's still not a lock though. And honestly, if Alabama loses then they shouldn't get in over Oklahoma, or Ohio State should they win. At least last year you could make the argument that Ohio State had two losses. Putting in a 1 loss runner-up over a 1 loss champion is a terrible precedent to set.

Also E$PN/$EC has to much pull I can't wait until Fox Sports catches up so it won't be so unfair ...

I thought ND may not even be a 500 team ...

Were much better on D than i ever imagined ...

We dont have the atheletes to compete with the bama’s and OSU’s (most years for u guys) of the world ...

This is the most atheletic D we’ve ever had .. and we still can’t play with Bama or Georgia IMO .. we can beat Clemson ... we could beat u guys hater handily this year IMO .. its a fluke year ..

We were 3 - 0 with a QB that was our best RB and he couldn’t hit the broadside of the barn .... he got benched at 3 - 0 .. our new QB can hit any side of the barn as long as its within 10 yards ... *L* ....after that ... OH VAY ...

I see a pattern forming here arch ... time to start INGORING U .. and i could care less how u take it or what u say about it ...

Not playing your game ... go ahead take the last shot ... i’ll Have no clue what it says ... dont care to discuss with u ..

Enjoy arch ...

Dude, they're just a better conference than the BIG10. It's not even a discussion. And Bama would have a field day with OSU. Look I'm a huge OSU fan but I don't live in fantasy land. And Bama isn't getting knocked out if they lose, nor should they.

Its my money ... i get to qualify it however i like ... *LOL* ...

We dont agree bro ...

More than likely a moot point .. the tide is rolling and ito pretty much unstoppable ...

In your opinion, what was their Bowl record last year the Big Ten was 7-1 as long as Bama is considered footballs God they won't get knocked out but it's a given that if UGA or anyone else loses they are out that isn't right in anything "Dude"

Dang ... fromms improved a lot ... he could be the difference in this game ...

Man ... i am soooo envious of the speed on both sides of the ball on both these teams ...

I really wish ND could recruit these types of kids ...

It sure is fun to watch ...

Well the $EC was 5-6 in their bowl games in 2017 sound like the best Conference

Dude, be real. OSU is playing a team that lost to Akron.


You do understand...AKRON

If GA. loses a close game, I would keep them at #4. They would kick the crap out of OSU 8 out of 10.

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Talk about a mic drop ... *LOL* ...

Undefeated UCF is getting their arse handed to them.

WOW ..

Talk about planting a foot and going ... WOW ...

As good as Nick and Sony were .. i think Swift is gonna be better than both them ... he showed flashes last year ..

DUDE CAN BALL ..

They lost there QB last week ...

Didn't you know it's all about who wins bowl games and not who they actually play?

Yeah, the Zips are a powerhouse team too!

I didn't say anything about playing Northwestern yes I do realize they lost to Akron and OSU should win going away I am just tired of the $EC bias and as long as it continues OSU will have to go undeafeated every year or thet will be left out ...

I think a lot of the bias you speak of comes from some OSU fans.

Look I will say one more thing and stop ok ... It is Not right for a team to lose their Championship game and go to the playoffs over a team that wins their Championship game if they have equal records thats all ...

Who are you guys playing today?

The gym ..... *LOL* ...

Been waiting about a decade now to use that one ...

Yes .. if bama losses to UG today theres no doubt cause of when OSU os to Purdue they should be in over bama .. ...