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Haven't been in here for a while...needed a break and to distance myself from the site. That said, as this is one of the most important decisions, if not THE most important decision the Browns and Dorsey have to make I wanted to weigh in...
How about Vic Fangio? Perhaps all the hush and secrecy is really because the guy Dorsey wants lays in waiting due to his team's postseason schedule? Makes sense....defensive minded coach who has turned most teams he has coached around, very highly respected and sought after and he is clearly ready to be a HC. He comes in and keeps Kitchens as his OC and then hire somebody like Bowles as your DC or ST? Not sure where Zampese stands...if Hue gets the Cincy job maybe he goes back down to the 513?
What about Williams as DC.. He did mention somewhere along the line that he'd consider that. Fangio was brought up by Casserly as a really good prospect for a HC job. I don't think he linked him to the Browns however. (not that that matters) It would be really hard to bring back Williams after he was in charge. The power dynamics would be way off. I’d expect he’s a goner. Fangio is older, like Williams, I’d expect that’s one reason why we haven’t given him a look. Nearly all the guys we have interviewed/will interview are on the younger side. The only ones who aren’t are Caldwell and McCarthy. We all know why Caldwell got the interview and McCarthy is a good ole boy interview.
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Riley was only in the mix for the “shiny new object” crowd on this board and media folks that wanted clicks ... i’m ASSuing the click bait crew talked about him, I never read it ... Truth is ... NONE OF US KNOW ... but since u wanna post suppositions as facts .... i’ll Follow suit ... 
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That's right. No head coach, just a triumvirate. You mean like Vers, Pit and Diam? Where do I sign!!!???
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When you have a team that is finally winning why would you blow it up? That's right your the Browns. NM. Because we have a guy (Dorsey) that knows what he is doing... so trust him. IMHO, he has earned the right to be in charge of the team, if only he would have been allowed to do his thing, I'm sure we would be in the playoffs this year. Let his chose the HC.
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Other than the Jets hire, there seems to be a lot of good 'fit' with the suggestions in the article. And not knowing much about Kliff Kingsbury, I really don't know if that'd be a good fit or not for the Jets.
Arians for the Browns makes a ton more sense when you factor in his relationship with Kitchens - and grooming Kitchens would keep alot of folks happy based on feedback here. Williams is till my #1 - Arians has always been my #2 choice. With John Harbaugh set to stay in Baltimore, my #3 option isn't an option any more.
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The longer this coaching search goes on, the more convinced I am that the real target is currently coaching in the playoffs.
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The longer this coaching search goes on, the more convinced I am that the real target is currently coaching in the playoffs. Except we’ve already requested interviews of people in the playoffs. And it hasn’t even been a week. The coaching search hasn’t even been long. At all. If we had already hired someone I would be worried.
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Nice article, but we aren’t even going to interview Arians.
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You may have a very valid point ... however, unless you are convinced that the team the guy is currently with is going to be knocked out of the playoffs this weekend ... I think not making some reference to this in the media would be a mistake. You can't go 2, 3 possibly 4 weeks without saying something about wanting to interview a guy who is with a team currently still playing.
We also run the risk of losing the best / most viable guys who are available right now unless you are 100% certain the guy still active is the guy you want - and that he will accept the job offer. You certainly lose any negotiating position at that point and the guy could safely ask for the moon and stars.
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GW might be thinking, "Life is just easier as a coordinator". He may not have a burning desire to do it. Oh, I think he'd accept but if the right choice is made he may be completely satisfied to run the D.
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I think not making some reference to this in the media would be a mistake. You can't go 2, 3 possibly 4 weeks without saying something about wanting to interview a guy who is with a team currently still playing. I believe the media is the LAST place you would want to make such a statement. Now a confidential call to their agent might be wise. Tipping your hand in public isn't something I would find to be wise. It doesn't sound very "Dorseyish". We also run the risk of losing the best / most viable guys who are available right now unless you are 100% certain the guy still active is the guy you want - and that he will accept the job offer. You certainly lose any negotiating position at that point and the guy could safely ask for the moon and stars. I just don't see Dorsey hiring the "best/most guy who is available" if he feels there are better candidates who will become available in the next couple of weeks. I mean the list is long enough that if he simply adds a couple of more names to the list he can stretch this out through next week. I'm not saying this is the case. But what I am saying is that this is as likely a scenario as most I've seen.
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Interesting that Dan Campbell worked with Zac Taylor in Miami. I know Taylor has been mentioned as a possible HC candidate but he could also be an OC candidate under Campbell if it where decided that Kitchens not be retained. Not advocating for that but if the FO would really be hung up on one particular HC candidate and that guy insists on his own staff, we may end up seeing Kitchens let go.Also, Campbell has worked with Mike Nolan quite a bit. I seem to remember him not being a great HC but a pretty good DC.
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Waiting longer to interview someone doesn’t make sense. Coaches who would be on that coach's staff would not want to wait around to see what happens.
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I agree about the waiting, this process should really be expedited so you can begin all thats involved. Increases the chance you get your guy and increases the HC chance to get the staff he wants. Its not like you haven't had 8 weeks of planning to be ready to go
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What about Williams as DC.. He did mention somewhere along the line that he'd consider that.
If a new coach wants to keep GW as DC I am down with that as it won't disrupt that room and the players know him and there is clearly chemistry there and they play hard for him. I was just thinking GW may decide to go elsewhere IF he is passed over as HC. Nevertheless, Amos is the one coach who HAS to go and I am sure he will be released. I didn't like that hire when it happened. We may all have grown tired of Tabor, but man we missed him big time this season! I am confident a few of our losses would have been wins with CT! I hear you on Amos... I'm one of those guys that looks at this and says, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.. GW and Kitchens did a really good job in a tough situation. I'm for keeping things as is.
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I really don't know who we should hire as HC, but Dan Campbell would be my guy if we don't retain GW or promote Kitchens.
I believe we are interviewing him today. I like him because:
--He is highly regarded in NFL circles.
--He is young enough to relate to today's players.
--He played in the NFL.
--He did some very good things as interim coach w/the Dolphins.
--Since he is not an offensive or defensive guru/coordinator, we could keep both Kitchens and Williams. Thus, we would maintain the continuity that this team has so sorely lacked over the years.
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I really don't know who we should hire as HC, but Dan Campbell would be my guy if we don't retain GW or promote Kitchens.
I believe we are interviewing him today. I like him because:
--He is highly regarded in NFL circles.
--He is young enough to relate to today's players.
--He played in the NFL.
--He did some very good things as interim coach w/the Dolphins.
--Since he is not an offensive or defensive guru/coordinator, we could keep both Kitchens and Williams. Thus, we would maintain the continuity that this team has so sorely lacked over the years. I like this idea.
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The longer this coaching search goes on, the more convinced I am that the real target is currently coaching in the playoffs. They must be on one of he 4 teams playing this weekend then ... cause the 4 bye week teams have candidates interviewing this week ... I think KJ may have a favorite .. but it appears to me he wants to talk to EVERYONE on his radar at all ... I think during an interview someone’s gonna TAKE THE JOB ... Just the feeling i get ...
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I don’t know what these numbers mean, but bet Kitchens and McCarthy and I bet you come out on top.
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I really don't know who we should hire as HC, but Dan Campbell would be my guy if we don't retain GW or promote Kitchens.
I believe we are interviewing him today. I like him because:
--He is highly regarded in NFL circles.
--He is young enough to relate to today's players.
--He played in the NFL.
--He did some very good things as interim coach w/the Dolphins.
--Since he is not an offensive or defensive guru/coordinator, we could keep both Kitchens and Williams. Thus, we would maintain the continuity that this team has so sorely lacked over the years. I like that line of thinking as well. I've been trying to read as much as I can find about these guys, and Campbell just keeps coming back to me as the one I like. It's nothing I can quantify and it may simply be what you said, Vers, about remaining as close to status quo as possible - especially since he's not from either side of the ball particularly. Also, not just to you but to anyone, can a team hire a coach from a playoff team at any time or must that team be eliminated from the playoffs before the hiring?
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Also, not just to you but to anyone, can a team hire a coach from a playoff team at any time or must that team be eliminated from the playoffs before the hiring? Must be eliminated. But teams know who they are going to hire. The 49ers waited for Kyle Shanahan recently, we waited for Romeo Crennel way back when.
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Also, not just to you but to anyone, can a team hire a coach from a playoff team at any time or must that team be eliminated from the playoffs before the hiring? Must be eliminated. But teams know who they are going to hire. The 49ers waited for Kyle Shanahan recently, we waited for Romeo Crennel way back when. Thanks!
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Dan Campbell is PC Principal. I'll probably regret asking, but can someone explain to me what cfrs is trying to say w/that post?
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Dan Campbell is PC Principal. I'll probably regret asking, but can someone explain to me what cfrs is trying to say w/that post? I was wondering the same thing!
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Thanks. But why? What's the connection? I never have watched the show. I imagine it's a derogatory reference, but I just don't know why.
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I'm not sure of the actual connection he's trying to make but I have watched South Park. And no, it's not positive.
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Campbell is a strong candidate.
I have always held Sean Payton in high regard.
It is important that he held the head coach position before. That is a big curve to be ahead of.
An important part of the interview is assembly of the staff. I like that the Browns have disallowed Freddie to interview for OC positions.
I would think this will be wrapped up next week. Meaning decision made on somebody.
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Dan Campbell is PC Principal. I'll probably regret asking, but can someone explain to me what cfrs is trying to say w/that post? They actually have a South Park wiki, who knew? http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/PC_Principal
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I still dont get the connection though.
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Campbell also played for NO in SB year and guess who the DC was?
Might be Danny Boy and i would be ok with that.
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Why is Amos still here? Just can't see him being kept for any reason meself.
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I'm with you on this, but do you really think Williams would stick around after losing out in his bid to be a head coach again to someone with fewer years experience? I believe he's already stated he's got offer's to coach defense elsewhere.
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I'm with you on this, but do you really think Williams would stick around after losing out in his bid to be a head coach again to someone with fewer years experience? I believe he's already stated he's got offer's to coach defense elsewhere. I was thinking about Williams as I was typing out that post. You're right. He may view going back to DC as a demotion. I'm not sure, but I can envision that. Not sure about the offers to coach elsewhere. LOL....did you hear some of the things he said on Hard Knocks. He tends to stretch the truth a bit. I'm not saying that in a mean way, but only mentioning it because it cracks me up. 
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[did you hear some of the things he said on Hard Knocks. He tends to stretch the truth a bit. I agree. I have watched every presser of his for the past two years and have often thought to myself "I'm not sure if I believe that, Gregg". But, he did the job we hoped he would do, he brought respectability back to the organization and he made it fun and competitive. At the beginning of the season my magic number for Hue to be retained was 7 wins. Well, Hue is gone and we did scrape 7 wins, improved 750% w/our tie and damn near finished .550! I was bummed when the Ravens game went from a stressful, but somewhat elated "omg...we may actually win this thing!" to the instantaneous downer of "well, that's the end of the season". The offseason is going to feel SO LONG! Waiting anxiously to see who Dorsey hires already feels like forever!
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