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We should have kept Zane. I'm sure we'll be bringing in a kicker to compete, but I'm fine with Joseph.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg

We should have kept Zane. I'm sure we'll be bringing in a kicker to compete, but I'm fine with Joseph.


If he was hurt, then we should have put him on the IR and we could have had a kicking competition this summer.


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As I said earlier, I was kinda hoping we would sign Bryce Callahan, but he was signed by the Broncos.

I still think we need secondary help.

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As I said earlier, I was kinda hoping we would sign Bryce Callahan, but he was signed by the Broncos.

I still think we need secondary help.



I wonder if his brother Tommy Callahan can play?


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Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
Originally Posted By: devicedawg

We should have kept Zane. I'm sure we'll be bringing in a kicker to compete, but I'm fine with Joseph.


If he was hurt, then we should have put him on the IR and we could have had a kicking competition this summer.



This is true. I feel like he announced he was hurt after we released him. Too bad. He's going to be a good one.

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Wanted him too. Good slot corner, but with Fangio in Denver, did not think he end up anywhere but there.

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Here's your kicker:
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...-scoring-record

Hope Mayfield has Dorseys ear on this one...guy looked confident and smooth everytime I saw him kick.

Would like to see us grab him late round....he's the next Janikowski IMHO

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Joseph had a good strong leg.

My plan not that it counts anywhere last I looked is we go 2 point conversion all the time. With our weapons that should be better than 50% success. As for FG...We will score TDs at an alarming rate, actually we were doing that in our last eight games last year. Hardly any need for a FG. But if we needed on over 50 yards, after he got more relaxed, Joseph does have the leg.

If not my plan then, yeah bring in competition and if you ask me with the high scoring in college now there are a lot of good kickers as well. Seibert being one of them.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
As I said earlier, I was kinda hoping we would sign Bryce Callahan, but he was signed by the Broncos.

I still think we need secondary help.


That's too bad. I wanted Callahan too. He's a very good Nickel corner and this defense is going to be in Nickel a lot.

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I get all the excitement over our offensive firepower but I think some Dawgs are under valuing a good kicker. A good kicker is insurance. They can get you that winning kick. I don't know what the stats are but I'd be interested to see how many times in a 16 game season a kicker is in position to kick the game winning FG? Even if it's only twice, you want that guy to be 100% in those two kicks because we saw just how much of a difference to W's would have made for us last year. A good kicker is also going to increase the odds that each drive is a scoring drive, very important when you find yourself in a slug fest.


For what this team is poised to do this coming season, I think we need to see if there's better insurance available.


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Safety: Tre Boston

Kicker: Gostkowski or Harrison Butker.

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Are Higgans and Willies back, if they don't get last years players back, they are going to "not be improved" again.

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This is my *uninformed take on the status of these players. Higgins has to sign his tender. There hasn't been any news that he has done so. Then he can still entertain offers from other teams. If he gets an offer that the Browns are willing to match then he comes back. Otherwise, we lose him and we get a 5th in this year's draft.

We still have Willies under contract he has some kind of injury designation. Once he's cleared by team doctors he can return to the 90 man roster.

* Everything I'm saying here is SWAG.

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There is no injury designation right now. There is a 90 man roster, and all players count, including injured players, and players tendered, but not yet signed, like Higgins.


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Originally Posted By: Dave
Gostkowski.


He is one of the best there is. If Dorsey gets him it would be amazing


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Originally Posted By: Steubenvillian
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Gostkowski.


He is one of the best there is. If Dorsey gets him it would be amazing


25-35 on FGs over 50. Career long FG is 62. And I think back to the final game 2-point loss to Baltimore, when the Browns got to the Ravens 39 yard line and it was clear that Williams had no intention of letting Joseph try a 56 yarder to win the game. We went for it on 4th and 10 and the pass was intercepted.

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Out of the remaining guys, I would like the one guy I wanted from the start .... DT Philon from San Diego. His price should be coming down now. and IIRC, he's only 26.

I like Kindred, and I think there are a number of really good SS that should be available from rounds 2-3. However, if they want to add competition, Boston or the kid from Indy would work as well. I just think the NFL front offices want some of these free agents to get a little nervous about their futures, and for their prices to come down.


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How about this, trade our middle 5th to the Jets for lb Darron Lee, and trade our bottom 5th to the Raiders for ss Karl Joseph. Both have been on the block and would at worst be quality depth.

After this I would look to sign anyone of the following for a reasonable price...
S Eric Berry Chiefs
S George Iloka Vikings
K Stephen Gostkowski Patriots
CB Rashaan Melvin Raiders
WR Kelvin Benjamin Chiefs
DT Darius Philon Chargers
DT Rodney Gunter Cardinals
LB Kyle Emanuel Chargers
LB Gerald Hodges Cardinals
OL Jordan Mills Bills
QB Geno Smith Giants
RB T.J. Yeldon Jaguars

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I just keep remembering the 4th down (last play of the year) where we opted to go for it instead of kicking a 57yd FG to win the game against the Rats.
I seem to remember the guy saying it was beyond Joseph's range.
I thought right there that we need to find competition at camp. I know 57 yds it's a long FG but that should be one that we should be able to at least attempt. That was a game winner and would have gave us a winning record and we don't hesitate to just go for it.
I hope we bring in someone maybe even draft another.


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still holding out hope for eric berry or tre boston

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Originally Posted By: BigDawgDeWeese
still holding out hope for eric berry or tre boston


at this point, they will likely still be there after the Draft.
Guys with talent don't get passed up by teams like this for no reason.

I have zero doubts that any team looking for help has at the very least talked with their agents to get an idea of where the player is in terms of health and what they are looking for in terms of a contract.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Isn't this a draft with depth at S? Maybe not a lot of All Pro talent, but players who would be useful at Safety?


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My hope is Eric Berry.

However, he left the Cowboys with no deal. I wonder why?

Was it his decision or the Cowboys?

As each day passes I still question his heel injury.

Is he cleared to play? Can he play at the level he once did?

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Can you imagine if the Browns signed Ziggy Anseh today!


I remember a couple 4 years ago Julius Peppers was a FA, and I couldn't get over the Browns weren't even jumping all over at least "asking" someone like that to make a deal and become a Brown.

Happened to get a glimpse of NFL network and they listed top remaining free agents, when I saw Anseh was a FA I flipped!

It'd be like having 2 Myles Garrett types, talk about versatility to what you could do with the defense.

It ain't gonna happen. Unless it does. Could you imagine?

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He will be a Chief.

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Probably not the injury unless its so obvious, a limp for example. But regardless who, Cowboys, us or anyone else. The contract will be contingent of him passing the MEDICAL EXAMINATION...I think that is pretty much with every move a team makes, trades, FA signings etc.

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Berry if right is an exceptional talent.

He has everything you look for. Smart, instinctive, can cover, can close, good tackler, has speed, great teammate.

Dorsey knows him very well. It is all about the physical. If we sign him for two years and he plays. He would add at lot to the defense.

He grew up in Atlanta when I lived there. He was a local legend. I wanted him bad in the draft. High character guy.


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An article by Yahoo Sports’ Charles Robinson indicated that Berry and his representatives were trying to avoid a “prove-it” deal and make the case that Berry’s situation is not that different than that of Earl Thomas, who signed a mega-contract with the Ravens.

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An article by Yahoo Sports’ Charles Robinson indicated that Berry and his representatives were trying to avoid a “prove-it” deal and make the case that Berry’s situation is not that different than that of Earl Thomas, who signed a mega-contract with the Ravens.


Eric Berry should be trying to find a dumb team then (maybe that's why he visited the Cowboys). Earl Thomas has only missed a significant amount of games in 2018 and it was a freak injury. Eric Berry has been injury plagued his whole career. Apples and oranges.

I still like the Tre Boston option. Last year he signed a one year, $1.5 million contract with the Cardinals when the safety market fell through. Even if we doubled that amount it would be a discount for us.

The only thing I will say is that Boston played for Steve Wilks (and Al Holcomb) last year in Arizona. They have a very good idea of who he is and what he can do. If we don't sign him I assume it's because they don't want him.

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Our cap went from 90m to I think I saw 35m. We are unlikely to see anymore signings.

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I still think we'll see signings as the roster turnover is still in full swing. I just don't think they'll be big money signings. Just moving some parts around.


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Originally Posted By: BpG
Our cap went from 90m to I think I saw 35m. We are unlikely to see anymore signings.


Top 5 in Cap Space : www.spotrac.com

1 Indianapolis Colts $74,910,489 I think this number is before they signed Houston from KC so you can take away about $12 Mil

2 Houston Texans $45,674,891

3 San Francisco 49ers $37,840,790

4 Cleveland Browns $35,312,728

5 New York Jets $34,549,064

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Our cap went from 90m to I think I saw 35m. We are unlikely to see anymore signings.


Top 5 in Cap Space : www.spotrac.com

1 Indianapolis Colts $74,910,489 I think this number is before they signed Houston from KC so you can take away about $12 Mil

2 Houston Texans $45,674,891

3 San Francisco 49ers $37,840,790

4 Cleveland Browns $35,312,728

5 New York Jets $34,549,064



A summary of how much real space we have left:

https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/cleveland-browns-2019-salary-cap-update-post-free-agency

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I'm surprised Ansah has not been the answer for someone as yet.

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Originally Posted By: drobs
I'm surprised Ansah has not been the answer for someone as yet.


Injuries

Cost

He played only 7 games last year, and he'll be 30 in May.


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All fair and valid points.

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This is the latest on Berry. Everyday I track this guy.

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2019/03/24/eric-berry-still-option-cleveland-browns/

I know the player this guy is. If he is past his injury I would love to get this guy.

Talent, effort, great teammate.

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