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He's back, ladies and gentleman!
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Landon Collins confused as to why Giants' brass thought Odell Beckham Jr. was a problem
Yahoo Sports Shalise Manza Young,Yahoo Sports Fri, May 10 10:49 AM EDT
Not long ago, Landon Collins thought he and Odell Beckham Jr. would be with the New York Giants for years, the foundational pieces upon which the Giants would be rebuilt.
Now neither one is with the franchise, and Collins, who signed a free-agent deal with NFC East rival Washington, is wondering why.
‘They felt like he was a problem’
In an interview with Ryan Dunleavy of NJ Advance Media, Collins said he wasn’t surprised that New York traded Beckham, as he believes the Giants saw the receiver as a problem basically for his entire tenure with the team.
“Was I shocked with Odell? No, honestly not,” Collins said. “They felt like he was a problem the whole time. Ever since Odell stepped into the league with them, they felt like he was a problem, I felt like from the outside.”
Beckham was traded to the Cleveland Browns in March, with co-owner John Mara agreeing to the move because of all of Beckham’s controversies. Shy of being publicly critical of Eli Manning last season (and really, he wasn’t wrong), it’s hard to see how Beckham was seen as some kind of problem child.
‘We loved him’
While the front office was seemingly itching to get rid of one of the most productive and electrifying offensive players in the NFL, Collins said players had the opposite view of Beckham.
“We loved him. Odell is my brother,” Collins said. “He is not that kind of guy, or what people think he is about or what the organization did. I don’t know why.”
Mara has refuted the notion that the Giants painted Beckham as a bad guy.
“I never said that to you and I’ve never said that to anybody else,” Mara said. “We’ve never taken that position about him. I just said that he was a good guy, he’s somebody we liked very much, that we embraced.
“Did he bring extra issues into the building from time to time? Yes, he did, but I thought they were manageable ones, particularly given the talent.”
Giants never made Collins an offer
A third-round draft pick of the Giants in 2015 who led the team in tackles in each of his four seasons, with a first-team All-Pro and three Pro Bowl nods already on his résumé, Collins signed a six-year, $84 million contract with Washington.
He wanted to stay with New York, but made it clear he didn’t want to play under the franchise tag. According to Collins, there were no contract talks during the season, and instead of tagging him as a placeholder to make sure he didn’t get away and buy time to work out a long-term deal, the Giants just let him leave.
“I’m starting a new chapter and I’m on a good team," Collins said. “When I left the Giants, I was kind of heartbroken. I loved the Giants. When I started there, I wanted to finish there. I wanted to be one of those guys to finish his career on one team.
“They didn’t give me the opportunity to do that. It’s a business. I can’t do anything about that.”
Despite his new football home, Collins is still hosting a celebrity softball game with his former teammates in Pomona, N.Y., on June 8. The game will benefit St. Christopher’s, a local non-profit Collins worked with during his time with the Giants that benefits women and children.
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Should Stop Grossi From Stirring the Media Pot Anymore 
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I think that perhaps you misunderestimate Mr. Grossi's ability to write completely inane tripe for the sole purpose of stirring the pot.
Browns is the Browns
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Dude lives for that reason alone.
It's his life's calling.
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Dude lives for that reason alone.
It's his life's calling.
Born under the constellation: "Trollus Majoris." Going to be very interesting if (when) the Browns start winning. Him trying to throw a wet blanket on success to a fanbase that so desperately wants to see success has to be a major worry for ESPN because it could nosedive any remaining readability in Cleveland. He tries that mess if the Browns continue trending this way, and he'll be dropped quicker than fingertips to a hot pot.
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I now have a new word to weave into some work-related correspondence.
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Him trying to throw a wet blanket on success to a fanbase that so desperately wants to see success has to be a major worry for ESPN because it could nosedive any remaining readability in Cleveland.
He tries that mess if the Browns continue trending this way, and he'll be dropped quicker than fingertips to a hot pot. He'll just use his alias, "leadtheway". 
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I dunno...
I have friends who are so anti-Baker that even if we do win and say he wins a few super bowls for us, they've already decided Baker is a jerk and nothing special and we'd be better off without him. He still says we were dumb for not drafting Barkley. So who knows, there might even be some who think like that here... But I'm sure Grossi will be able to spin things in such a manner that he will be right.
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I'm really confused by people who are doubling down on Mayfield, be it for character concerns or concerns regarding his play.
It really isn't that hard to admit to being wrong.
I had Mayfield ranked behind Darnold and Rosen, no shot at being the top quarterback picked and drafting him top 10 would be a reach. Now I have a Mayfield jersey and wouldn't trade my quarterback for the world.
We waited too damn long for a quarterback for anyone to care if he was their guy or not.
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Dude lives for that reason alone.
It's his life's calling.
Born under the constellation: "Trollus Majoris." Going to be very interesting if (when) the Browns start winning. He'll probably start voting YES to Modell in the HOF at that point.
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Can we just get to the point where we get to see video of him catching passes from Baker, already??
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Thanks for trying to redirect the thread back to OBJ and away from the agenda nonsense.
Nice to see OBJ out on the field. He's as dynamic as any WR in the entire league. He's probably the most talented guy at that spot. The most athletic.
He is regarded by most as a top 3 WR in the entire league. If not for a couple of injuries and Eli, I think he would be first.
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That pass was behind him. Trade Baker.
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I noticed that too.
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That pass was behind him. Trade Baker. He was pretending there was a defender in front of him, so he put it where only Odell could get it..LOL
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That pass was behind him. Trade Baker. We don't need to trade him. I mean he's still young. He just needs to work on his accuracy. 
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1st pass to OBJ. He wasn't prepared for the speed. He'll get better. Give it some time 
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He was pretending there was a defender in front of him, so he put it where only Odell could get it..LOL I love the...  It was the perfect response.  
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Freddie didn’t mention anything about having to ride in brown and orange .... *L* ... LETS GOOOOOOOOooooooooooo ....
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Freddie didn’t mention anything about having to ride in brown and orange .... *L* ... LETS GOOOOOOOOooooooooooo .... That's the Uber ride on the Isle
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Freddie didn’t mention anything about having to ride in brown and orange .... *L* ... LETS GOOOOOOOOooooooooooo ....
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Sweet ride.
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Sweet ride.
Happy Birthday Cap!!!
Thanks, Fate.
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Sorry but that thing is hideous.
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Sorry but that thing is hideous. It would look a lot better in a parade through Downtown Cleveland in January. It would appear he's buying in. We'll see soon enough.
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Callaway is the man, teams struggled to cover him last year and now with OBJ taking more attention from him, LOOKOUT ...
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I personally am getting sick of seeing this guy livng large while the team works. I get that it is voluntary, and defended him up to now.
I want the buy in to be about working with the team and being around.
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Happy birthday!
Laughing at first, but this works on the Island! OBJ can tailgate in this!
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Happy birthday!
Laughing at first, but this works on the Island! OBJ can tailgate in this! Thanks, Bard
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I personally am getting sick of seeing this guy livng large while the team works. I get that it is voluntary, and defended him up to now.
I want the buy in to be about working with the team and being around. So having an orange car is the reason you are no longer defending him?
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I personally am getting sick of seeing this guy livng large while the team works. I get that it is voluntary, and defended him up to now.
I want the buy in to be about working with the team and being around. I expect more of these types of comments as we go through the summer. Folks have to understand that OBJ is a fiend for social media. He posts everything there. Get use to it. But don't get it twisted.. he works hard.
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I personally am getting sick of seeing this guy livng large while the team works. I get that it is voluntary, and defended him up to now.
I want the buy in to be about working with the team and being around. So having an orange car is the reason you are no longer defending him? No, it's the Instagram pictures of him at Monaco and showing off clothes. His boy is at practice everyday, you would think he could make an appearance now and then. Mandatory camp is coming, I hope he shows and works hard. I understand he doesn't have to be there, and that's fine. But new team and offense, it wouldn't hurt. That being said, I'm sure he has a playbook and is in contact with the team, or at least I hope so.
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I dunno...
I have friends who are so anti-Baker that even if we do win and say he wins a few super bowls for us, they've already decided Baker is a jerk and nothing special and we'd be better off without him. He still says we were dumb for not drafting Barkley. So who knows, there might even be some who think like that here... But I'm sure Grossi will be able to spin things in such a manner that he will be right.
What the hell were they watching last season? I was not a fan of taking Baker. Boy was I WRONG! He was amazing last year and if Kitchens calls plays like he did last year(a nice run/pass balance) then Baker will only get better this season.
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I dunno...
I have friends who are so anti-Baker that even if we do win and say he wins a few super bowls for us, they've already decided Baker is a jerk and nothing special and we'd be better off without him. He still says we were dumb for not drafting Barkley. So who knows, there might even be some who think like that here... But I'm sure Grossi will be able to spin things in such a manner that he will be right.
What the hell were they watching last season? I was not a fan of taking Baker. Boy was I WRONG! He was amazing last year and if Kitchens calls plays like he did last year(a nice run/pass balance) then Baker will only get better this season. That could have been written by myself as well.
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I dunno...
I have friends who are so anti-Baker that even if we do win and say he wins a few super bowls for us, they've already decided Baker is a jerk and nothing special and we'd be better off without him. He still says we were dumb for not drafting Barkley. So who knows, there might even be some who think like that here... But I'm sure Grossi will be able to spin things in such a manner that he will be right.
That is a bit surprising to read as I really haven't seen this sentiment outside of these boards. Even here, it hasn't been much.
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