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I'm guessing it means he's not going to make an announcement yet and will hope people forget about it due to the next "crisis"/crazy story/mega trade. Maybe that means he's going to let Hunt stick around unless public pressure mounts. Any announcement would have its detractors, so he's probably trying to slip it under the radar.

Or he might have more hoops for Hunt to jump through to be allowed to hang around.

It's hard to say.

There's a saying in AA (one of many); "If your drinking causes problems, you have a drinking problem." I'm not saying he is an alcoholic, but if drinking is a common thread in his misbehavior, it is something he and those offering him guidance should address.

Can you imagine not only Chubb and Duke but freaking Kareem Hunt in the backfield??????

AMAZING!

John Dorsey is a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nick Chubb:



Duke Johnson:



and...

Kareem Hunt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXvLeE0UGyY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZrsIwERBQ&t=99s

Watching that.... I enjoyed the Johnny moments... I hope he catches on and pans out somewhere. Wishing him the best.

j/c:

Hunt, the person:

'Freddie Kitchens, John Dorsey attend Kareem Hunt’s baptism on Sunday'

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/05...-on-sunday.html

P.S. I hope he's sincere. If so, this is definitely a step in the right direction.

I think that this is the sort of thing Kitchens was talking about when he said that Hunt has things he can learn from Chubb, too.

Chubb is such an old school, throwback, "Sir/Ma'am, Please/Thank you" kinda guy with such a strong work ethic and sense of morals and manners... there is a LOT a guy like Hunt can learn from Chubb in the way of "what sort of person do you want to be?" and "how are you going to conduct yourself?"... and that sort of maturation flows back to football and the way you approach life and the game.

I wish someone would have told him he could have been instantly absolved for his ridiculousness and stupidity if he had just jumped into Lake Erie in June. It's clearly worked before.

And..... there it is. Some people just can't leave it alone. Then it becomes everyone elses fault.

your schtick is getting old. you oughtta move on.

Some people get so triggered. It's too bad.

Feel free to place me on ignore.

And some people spend their time trying to trigger others like it's their favorite past time. The longer things go on the more people see your agenda and lack of being able to let things go. They make medication for that.

You might want to go check your post activity in a certain thread and reconsider your "letting things go" comment.

Weren't you in that search count excercise?

The situation is similar regarding Hunt's desire to be reborn and forget all of his poor decision-making. And making a joke about a ridiuclous ritual for either person was the point. So, yes, you're triggered again.

I don't go to church and I am not religious, but I think Hunt turning towards the church is a really good thing. It shows he is trying to turn his life around. Surrounding himself w/good people is important.

I also think that it's a great thing to see that Dorsey and Freddie attended. It's promoting a caring, family atmosphere.

I may be hokey for thinking these things, but I see this as a positive story.

Ignore him, Pit. Don't give him what he wants.

No, I just know pathetic when I see it.

j/c
Pretty easy at times, to push buttons on here...

Freddie Kitchens, John Dorsey show Kareem Hunt they support him as a person

Kitchens, Dorsey surprise Hunt at his baptism Sunday

https://923thefan.radio.com/articles/freddie-kitchens-john-dorsey-support-kareem-hunt-person

Rocky River, Ohio (92.3 The Fan) – Cleveland Browns general manager John Dorsey and head coach Freddie Kitchens surprised Kareem Hunt Sunday.

They wanted to be there to support Hunt at his baptism.

“We care about Kareem as a person,” Kitchens said Monday at the 20th annual Browns Foundation golf outing held at Westwood Country Club. “We went there for Kareem Hunt as the person and not the football player. The thing we did yesterday was not about football at all, it was about Kareem as the person.”

Hunt’s agent Dan Saffron posted a picture of Hunt standing with Dorsey and Kitchens on Instagram after the ceremony.

From the moment the Browns signed Hunt both Dorsey and Kitchens have both said that they wanted to help Hunt as a person first and foremost with his football talent coming second.

Showing up Sunday was a way of showing Hunt that actions speak louder than words.

“I care about Kareem Hunt 50 years from now,” Kitchens said. “What’s going to make him have a better chance at succeeding in his life 50 years from now? And that’s not lip service from me and that’s not lip service from John Dorsey. So, from time to time you have to show that. But to show that, you’re showing it for the person again. You’re not showing it to prove a point or anything. We showed up to support him as a person.”

Helping Hunt rehabilitate as a man is the No. 1 priority of Kitchens and Dorsey, who are all in on the troubled running back.

Football comes second.

“That’s the way I have always approached coaching even at Mississippi State or North Texas or wherever I have been,” Kitchens said. “It’s always been about the person. I feel like John is the same way.”

According to Dorsey and Kitchens, Hunt has been a model citizen since signing for the league minimum in February.

Hunt, who has been suspended by the NFL for the first eight games of the upcoming season for his off-the-field behavior, has checked all the boxes to reestablish his public image since that infamous video in February 2018 of him pushing and kicking a woman in the hallway outside of his residence at the Metropolitan at The 9 which, when it became public, led to his release from the Chiefs surface in late November of last year.

He has apologized, is attending counseling twice a week, is doing community service and has also found his faith.

“Kareem understands the things that have happened happened, and nobody's going to dispute that,” Kitchens said. “But he also understands it's a new day for you, it's a new day for me every time we week up, and you either get better or you get worse during the course of that day. Kareem understands that and he's doing a good job of just staying in the moment and continuing to strive to get better and making good choices each and every day.

“I think [Sunday] was just another step for him to do that.”

Kitchens has come to admire Hunt’s willingness to tell his story to kids. And not the one about how he led the NFL in rushing as a rookie either.

“One of the most one of the truest forms of bravery is showing your scars,” Kitchens said. “You show your scars so people don’t make the same mistakes that you make. And Kareem has done an exceptional job of showing his scars out in the public and some of these schools he’s visited without any advertisement at all. He’s chosen to do that to sorta show his scars so maybe some of the other kids don’t make the same [ones].”

Redemption stories are always hits and the Browns believe they’ve found one in Hunt.

This is awesome. I feel very uneasy about Hunt being on my team but it is very cool to see him, seemingly genuinely, try to get on the right track with the support of John Dorsey and Freddie Kitchens. I commend all who are involved.

Good for him "With God All Things Are Possible"

The more I hear Freddie speak, the more sure I am that he's a good guy.

I think that the players realize that as well. Not in an "I'm going to walk all over him" way, but in a "I'll not only run through a wall for him, but through 2 semi trailers, and the wall on the other side of the road as well".

I don't feel it's hokey at all to feel that way.

Amen!

I hope he does turn his life around. I hope he is a great player for the Browns too. Personally, I would not have signed him. But I'm old-school. I find what he did reprehensible. If from now on he keeps his nose clean and his stuff together then I guess it's fine. As a player, he's a top-five running back. How they will get Hunt AND Chub enough carries is a real question...

I hope so. I hope he is the right coach for this team. I know we let a coach go that won 7 games and had us playing good football. So he BETTER be the right guy He does seem to be a really nice guy. That can be either good or bad. Schrödinger's cat... Time will tell.

ALL eyes are on Cleveland rght now. That's a lot of pressure.

From a football perspective, their loss is our gain.

Our backfield is outstanding, probably the best in the league. I like the dynamics also. Too many times we see teams that have a great young back like Chubb, and they run him into the ground. Young backs can handle it for a while but it catches up to them.

It's better to have another great young talent to split the workload up. It's good for Chubb because he can stay fresh for longer... that means (hopefully) deep into the playoffs, but also on a year-to-year basis; it'll probably help him get bigger money in his second contract.

It's good for Hunt because he might still be out of a job if it weren't for the Browns willing to take a chance on him. He can rehabilitate his image and show he's still a great player in this league. He still has a bright future as long as he doesn't have any repeats of last off-season.

And of course it's nice for the Browns to have 2 great young backs to lean on. I know we all want a fine-tuned juggernaut in week 1 but we still have a young quarterback and new offense. It's going to take some time to gel and to be able to lean on a great back or two is a nice luxury to have.

If I remember correctly, both Chicago and Kansas City approached him the same time we did.

Which is strange .. because KC knee jerked cut him.

It's strange. I find myself pretending Hunt is not even on the team. A lot of things can happen in 2 months (A LOT):

- The Chubb/Hilliard combo might light it up, and we won't want to mess with it too much.

- The Chubb/Duke combo likewise.

- Chubb might get injured early, and we'll have to bring in someone else to help Hilliard or Duke.

- Hunt might have another off-field issue.

- D'Ernest or Trayvone might come out of the woodwork somehow (ST?) and be a larger part of our offense.

- Maybe we trade him (I don't know the appropriate dates) - once eligible - for a player at a different position for which we are in dire need at the time.

Etc.....

Too many variables. I choose to pretend he's not going to help us at all. If he gets on the field in 2 months, and we have a healthy Chubb/Hunt/Hilliard backfield, then that will be icing.

It's hard to imagine a Chubb/Hunt backfield going into the future after this season.

This is what I found:

Link

Dorsey didn't sign Hunt for an 8 game rental. That makes absolutely no sense. The Browns retain his rights, he will be a restricted FA at the end of this season. What Dorsey and the Browns' have done to help him rehabilitate his career creates a huge incentive for him to remain in Cleveland.

I'd be interested to hear your scenario where he's out of Cleveland after this season.

Just a hunch, an opinion. Nothing more.

Like I said, if we go into November and December with a healthy backfield of Chubb/Hunt/(whomever), that would be the icing.

If that's the case, I suspect Dorsey wouldn't hesitant to pull the trigger on a trade in the offseason that would net us a position of need at some point. He's not been hesitant to do this so far.

Anyway, no specific scenario. Just interesting to speculate at the slow time of the year.

Here's to hoping we find a way to have the most potent backfield in the AFCN for the next few years!

Hunt Is on the team, reagardless of whether you Like it or Not!

Chubb and Hunt are both on the team Now, so if you don't like them being on the team after this season, Maybe Don't Watch!

If and or But? Tell me where anything you said before ended up as you claimed?

This is a good take, but let's say that Hunt stays out of trouble and Chubb keeps balling. Dorsey can trade one of them for assets. I don't think that will happen, but it's an option.

LOL, the Browns once traded Bobby Mitchell so I know that it's possible. A deal involving Hunt would have to be very lucrative.

Looking at how the roster is built right now, I see position depth as our only real need. I don't envision trading him for depth. But hey, stranger things have happened.

This is an edit, just read another Pete Smith article on Brownsmaven. He has a "next level" assessment of the potential to move Duke and Hunt. It makes me uncomfortable as a fan but it might make sense if you're managing a roster. I wouldn't do it though.

Brownsmaven