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Sorry, I just saw this pop up on twitter. It's from April 29th.

It looks as if former Bucs’ DT Gerald McCoy already is wanted in Cleveland.....

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1130626450997043200

Lol, you gotta love OBJ.

I missed it. What did he do?

OBJ reacted to news of his release with a one-word tweet. Cleveland!

I took a quick glance at the cap situation of most of the teams mentioned as suitors for McCoy. Financially, it looks like the Browns and the Seahawks are in the best position to sign him. I did look at both the cap situation of Indy and their depth chart on Ourlads. It looks like they play mostly an odd front. I don't know if that would be attractive to him.

You may have already figured it out, but if not, scroll up 3 posts from yours.

Thanks to you and guard.

J/C

The following seems somewhere between wrong-headed and absurd.

Rapaport is saying that the Bucs replacement target is Suh. To me, he has a reputation for being extremely difficult to negotiate with. I don't see him accepting a discount or "prove it" deal. If this is their plan the Bucs should have cut a deal to keep McCoy. It's reported that Suh has made over $190 mill in his career. He can't be leveraged.

Using the logic he could also go to the Saints and pull a Joe Haden.

According to Sportrac the Saints have less than $8.5 million in cap room.

I took a second look at Indy. They have the money to outbid the Browns in the vicinity of $40 mill. I still think schematically the Browns are a better fit.

Or even the Falcons and play next to Jarret

~8 mil might be fair market value for him. We already know that no team will sign him for over 13 mil.

Just quickly trying to find some similar players (DTs over 31), and it looks like Snacks Harrison just signed a 9 mil a year deal at age 30. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I know all my friends from NO think that they'll be getting him.

And this is why you don't trade a young, valuable player on a good contract (Duke Johnson) for an overpaid, 30+ yr old player a team actively desperately trying to move him (McCoy). Because in the end, the latter will usually just be released.

J/C
I have mixed feelings about Mike Florio as a writer. It often seems he's trying to be the smartest guy in the room. That seldom works in real life or journalism. I do think there are some insights in the article included below.

What’s next for Gerald McCoy?
Posted by Mike Florio on May 21, 2019, 6:19 AM EDT

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The Buccaneers didn’t want to pay veteran defensive tackle Gerald McCoy $13 million in 2019. More importantly, no one else wanted to trade for McCoy’s contract.

And that’s often the impetus for a trade. Yes, the new team wants the player. But the new team also prefers to surrender a draft pick or a player for the contract, in lieu of potentially having to pay even more in an open competition if/when the player is released.


The fact that the Bucs couldn’t find a trade partner for McCoy means that no one wanted to give up anything of value for the privilege of getting McCoy at $13 million in compensation this season. Which suggests that McCoy, on the open market, will have a hard time getting to that number.

The Browns are the only team that had been linked to McCoy before he was released; if another team had been considering a trade for McCoy, that news surely would have emerged, if for no reason other than to create a real market for McCoy’s services — and ultimately to spark a deal.

That’s not to say there aren’t other interested teams, but if it were believed that McCoy would be a guy who commands significant dollars if available in free agency (i.e., more than the $13 million he was due to make in 2019), the Bucs should have been able to trade him, somewhere.

Spitballs regarding potentially interested teams already have emerged, likely pushed by the McCoy camp in order to spark a market for his services. Still, the Browns continue to be the only team that had been linked to McCoy. And without a second team to drive up the price, McCoy will have a hard time approaching the money he was due to make in 2019 from Tampa — especially with multiple other veteran defensive linemen still available to be signed.

If McCoy somehow matches or surpasses it, the message will be that the Bucs bungled what should have been an ideal situation to trade not just the player but the contract.

It will be interesting to see what his contract ends up being...not so much the $ amount but length of his contract. If McCoy thinks he has plenty of gas left in the tank, I don't know why he would want to accept a one-year contract thus forfeiting a certain amount of security to injury and guarantees, which, I would think, most teams would offer and prefer. Maybe a two-year deal with ability to cut after one with little dead cap? Still if no one is willing to do a multi-year deal, then he will be stuck no matter what.

I agree with you on Florio in general, but I side with his notion that the teams who are "interested" were probably brought up by his agents to establish a healthy market.

Well, if they wanna take a look, now is the time.

I too think it will be interesting to see what happens.

I can see a one year deal, especially here. If all things line up for us, his addition could put us over the top to win it all. We can afford him now, but not next year. If he wants a multi-year deal, perhaps we don't sign him? If I were him, I might push a contract that would make it hard for us to release him after one year... just a thought...

I don't know what the dollar amount will be, but I think a 2-year deal structured similar to S. Richardson's deal should suffice in getting a deal done.

I think you can eliminate the Saints and Pats due to cap space (Pats just re-signed Shelton too)

Sent him a cryptic tweet "Cleveland"

I think the Colts will offer a longer term deal than we might and he signs there.

Sign him

j/c

i remember a time where a player wanting a shot at the playoffs would rule us out as a destination.

"Git-R-Done!"

j/c:

Problem is, we wouldn't be getting the 2012-15 McCoy ... we'd get the 2019 version

Tough to know how much he has left at a higher level

I'd say a 2 year deal in the range of 6-8 per with team option for the second

I'm no more worried by a decline in play by McCoy than I am from Suh. Both taken I believe within picks of each other in 2010. He won't be expected to take reps at an extremely high rate. We get quality play from him and the other guys in rotation.

He suffered a calf strain or something last season. Even though he started 14 games, his ability may have been hampered and still got 6 sacks.

I wouldn't overpay, but he still has value.

Yes I agree with that, as long as he isn't looking for more than a 1 year guaranteed deal

I was actually just about to post that. Good read, though the Browns should probably be included in one of the potential landing spots.

Yeah, I was shocked by that omission.

Ty. Good read with the exception of the snub to the Browns as possible landing spots.