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Not to mention, he already had a life-treatening health scare not too long ago. Dude should probably give Mangini a call and see how he lost all that weight a few years ago.

At the risk of being called a wet blanket, debbie-downer, or even a hater...

Jake Delhomme also looked unstoppable in his 1-and-done preseason games... I'm not saying it's the same thing as with Baker, or even that what I'm pointing out is relevant at all. Just saying that that's what this 1 battered Browns fan thought of when Baker's O marched down the field and called it a day.

I gotta watch more before I try to make any truly insightful comments on the game.

I'll tell you what makes it different.

I keep harping on this. Plus-level throws.

There are maybe half of the QBs in the league who would attempt and make the TD throw to Higgins. Less than that would make that throw multiple times. Baker usually has 3-6 plus level throws a game.

I think that's what sets him apart and should be what gives us hope. That was a crazy pinpoint accurate throw with a good level of difficulty. He seems to thrive with those types of throws.

J/c

I also thought the refs blew the Callaway non-TD ... but, it didn’t hurt us LAST NIGHT. Hopefully we don’t end up on the wrong side of them during the year

I like when the refs explain what they saw when making the final call. Didn't get that last night. Should be a requirement, IMO.

How many times have we complained about complacency on the sidelines? Coaches looking lost or just standing there with their thumbs up their asses? I find his involvement refreshing. Also, I don't think it's for show, I believe it comes from a mentality that he's not letting anything slide, that they've all been taught how to do their jobs properly, and when a mistake is made it will be dealt with immediately. I also believe he wears his emotions on his sleeve, when he's happy he's exuberant, when he's pissed everyone will know exactly why. I'm good with his sideline demeanor, all aspects of it. JMHO

Yeah I agree. Good point

Baker is elite.

Something I loved seeing last night, when Guiseppi had his return, Baker was one of the first to congratulate him, then went over and took the ball from him to make sure it got put away for him. That wasn't a starting QB doing it, that was a teammate. He's got a personality made for this game, laser accuracy, incredible leadership qualities, great vision, and a really good arm.

That’s quite a lot, and he played til the bitter end

Was just talking to a friend about this.

Agree with majority of comments. That TD pass to Higgins was a thing of beauty.

I don't think I've watched us completely outgun a team like that before. We tripped ourselves up. I know it's pre-season but that was a statement of intent. I also know teams who go 4-0 in the pre-season can soil the bed.

Class move.

I was thinking about the fumble at the goal line and Hyman's fumble. In a real game, Chubb is carrying that ball at the goal line, and either OBJ, Landry, or Higgins are likely heading for the endzone. It's unlikely those balls get put on the turf. Callaway was just plain robbed by the ref, and by the replay officials. That's 21 extra points, assuming the kicker doesn't brain fart every time he steps on the field. That is some serious firepower.

I was in and out of the Browns' game because the Indians were playing a pretty important game at the same time, but I saw the opening drive. I was really glad we didn't a.) defer the kickoff as we have seen in past years and b.) that we were in attack mode right from the get. It looked like Freddie wanted to get Mayfield, Chubb, and a couple others off the field ASAP, but not before they did something positive.

I also saw the TD pass to Callaway and I was annoyed but not surprised that the review didn't overturn the call on the field. Like several games last year it appeared that the review was a sham intended to support the refs on the field more than it was intended to get the call right. Not for the first time it felt like the league was saying - in the face of clear evidence to the contrary, IMO - "Who you gonna believe, us or your lyin' eyes?".

The Hillard fumble was the same drive that Callaway got robbed by the refs. So that was only 14 points we could have had. Although, we doinked an extra point, and a late penalty at the end of the half likely robbed us of another 3 points. So that's another 18 points we might of put up. Add to that, the only really big play they had was a blown assignment by two of our rookies, so a potential 48-3 game?

Yeah, I get the woulda-coulda-shoulda, but it's nice to see that we're capable of really throwing up a beatdown. Rather than hoping all things bounce our way for a chance at a win.

Higgins is an awesome story.

Gilbert looked pretty good, he definitely has an NFL arm.

Hilliard is a problem and not the good kind. I suspect if his play does not uptick that we will sign a back.

Stanton sucks, I felt the same way last preseason, slow to process, late throws, terribly inaccurate throws, just no what you want from a vet.

The D-line looks like a strength. Especially DT

Greedy played well, I am fairly certain Redwin stepped up thinking it was cover 4 and that greedy was bailing. Based on what I saw on the other side of the field, Redwine was correct and Greedy was wrong. The other corner ran into cover 4 all 3 of the other guys went cover 4.


The passing game looks good, as expected.

The running game looked poor as expected.

Pharoh Brown was terrible. Catching, blocking, route running. Lot's of work to do there.

Could have been some variation of a Cover-6 though, so you can't necessarily use the other side of the field to determine where everyone should have been. Actually, a Cover-6 scheme could explain the confusion, if Redwine or Greedy got confused as to which side of the field was dropping back the corner.

Yes, you're right. It would've been 14 not 21. I know it's really early, but as a carryover from last year, and contrary to prior years, it feels like we're always in it, capable of scoring or stopping an offense at will. It will be interesting when we face good teams to see how well we stack up.

I thought Hilliard might have broken the plane on 1st down.

????????

The Pats scored 24, 23, 30, and 38 in last year's preseason.

Further, Baker only played 1 series. Our backups beat their backups. Many of those backups will not make the final roster.

We also had 6 penalties for 89 yards. That's not good for a team concentrating on not beating itself. I bet that Freddie is not happy about that, or the blown coverage that allowed Keenum's TD.

One thing I was encouraged about was the play of the DL. Despite missing Richardson and Vernon, they affected almost every play. The Skins 1st drive was 7 plays for 14 yards. In those 7 plays were 3 holding calls. We declined 2 of them. That's awesome/scary.

There were 0 INT by our QBs. That's great in 43 pass attempts.

We better re-sign Higgins. He is a great weapon, and it's obvious that he and Baker have great chemistry. I do not think that he's a #1 WR .... but a #2? Perhaps.

Chad Thomas had a nice game. Man was he disruptive. Devaroe and Coley also had nice games. Coley was disruptive, and that's good to see.

Mack (The Knife) Wilson had himself a fantastic game. Going into the game, if I would have said "Wilson will have a pair of INT, one for a TD, 3 tackles, ..... and 2 passed defensed ... I think that my fellow board members would have suggested that I have my head examined. (which some probably already think) if I said Wilson would play like this. His 2nd INT was just pure effort and hustle, combined with being able to see and understand what was happening around him. If I'm Kirksey, I have to wonder if I might be coming off the field on 3rd and mid to long downs.

3 sacks, 5 QB Pressures, 3 INT, (one for a TD) and 6 tackles for a loss. That ain't bad for 63 or 64 total plays.

Overall, a solid beginning.

Didn't get to watch the game yet, just the highlights. It's replaying on NFLN this afternoon and I'll record it and watch when I get back in town on Sunday... other than the highlights which have been covered..

the one thing I learned is that we have another D. Johnson on the team who runs the ball. I spent the first 3 quarters following it on my phone wondering why D. Johnson was getting carries since we traded him earlier in the day. I even clicked on it and it took me to Duke Johnson, Jr's stat page so the stat people must have been confused too. It has since been changed to D'Earnest Johnson but boy was I confused last night.

Gilbert looked highly competent playing against backups.

He meant total for all 4 games I believe.

Ah, OK.

PFF ReFocused, NFL Preseason Week 1: Cleveland Browns 30, Washington Redskins 10

Cleveland Browns‘ Rashard Higgins and Garrett Gilbert both played at a high level in the team’s 30-10 win over the Washington Redskins on Thursday night. Washington safety Jeremy Reaves and wide receiver Darvin Kidsy had some highlight plays in the contest, but their efforts weren’t enough to help the team to a win.

PFF’s ReFocused series features immediate takeaways from the two analysts who graded the game live. The two offer a detailed breakdown of the game’s most notable performances before the grades and advanced stats are reviewed and finalized by Senior Analysts.


Final Score

Cleveland Browns 30, Washington Redskins 10



CLEVELAND BROWNS
Rashard Higgins has been lost in Cleveland’s offseason acquisition of Odell Beckham, but with OBJ sitting this one out, it was Higgins’ turn to have a big outing. He caught a touchdown on the first drive of the game off a perfect seam pass by Baker Mayfield and had a number of other big receptions throughout the game.

Myles Garrett certainly made his presence felt in the short amount of time he was in the game. And the rest of the Browns’ defensive line followed suit. Carl Davis, Chad Thomas and Trevon Coley were in the backfield often.

WASHINGTON REDSKINS
Cornerback Jimmy Moreland was targeted early and often, and while he did give up a number of receptions into his coverage, he also came away with several big plays. He forced two pass breakups early, notched a batted pass at the line of scrimmage and was also responsible for two forced fumbles.

Wide receiver Darvin Kidsy ran strong routes and had a few nice plays. He did have a fumble, but Dwayne Haskins’ best two throws went to Kidsy.




CLEVELAND BROWNS
Backup center Austin Corbett had a rough go. He struggled with quick pass-rushers and was too easily controlled at the line of scrimmage on runs to either side of him.

The only touchdown the Browns’ defense allowed was a busted coverage on a go route. Rookie LSU product Greedy Williams missed the assignment playing the flats, and the go route was wide open down the right sideline.

WASHINGTON REDSKINS
Linebacker Shaun Dion Hamilton saw early action tonight and sometimes appeared lost in space on pass plays. He had a key missed tackle after a catch underneath on the first drive of the game and had multiple negatively graded played against the run.

The offensive line really struggled in pass protection and also the run, making it tough to get any drives going. Washington’s quarterbacks rarely had time, but even when they did, they made poor decisions or just bad throws.

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-refocus...ton-redskins-10

Thanks to all those that posted during the game.

I've been a huge fan of Higgins since he and Baker seemed to hit it off last year. I figured part of it was because they were in the 2nd team together when Baker didn't get any 1st reps ... just figured they created some chemistry. But throughout the season, while he wasn't as flashy as Calloway, he just seems to have a knack for creating a little separation and he catches the ball when it's in his radius and it's catchable.... I honestly think we have an embarrassment of riches at WR.

Hope I get to see the game when it repeats.

43 total points for all 4 preseason games.

OK, that clears it up.

J/c

If I’m Washington I’m giving Trent a new deal ... that is if they have ideas of winning any time soon

Just watching the game now.

Washington is really good...

...at holding.

Every play

I heard Joe Thomas on the radio this afternoon, and he thinks holding calls (if they're actually called) should be credited to the defensive player who was held just like a sack. Myles Garrett had 3-4 holding calls that he forced last night.

Callaway got robbed of a TD.

Yeah, Myles was legit held 4 straight plays

Yeah, that was an obvious TD I thought

Joe Thomas is skinny.