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if arguably the #1 WR in the game, and a top 15 WR in landry arent the guys to go to on the money downs, then whats the point of having them on the team?

I feel sick. So sick.

Someone say something to restore hope please.

And zampese’s game plans

voice of reason.. most of the winers had us losing by 30

j/c

one more thing - why not challenge that interference call where he was clearly pushed out bounds? Yes you don't gain or lose that much yardage, offsetting penalties would let you keep your down! We could have used that down.

Its not like we didn't need the extra down in a tight game like this.

Good points. The formations and play calling at the end was moronic. Even if they ran the ball on 1st or 2nd and goal and didn't make it time wouldn't have run out. They still had 2 timeouts left. I think with a more experienced HC we win that game.

the HC who wants to be an OC is the problem.
Dude needs to turn over the keys to calling plays to the Monk


I'm betting the grumbling between the HC and OC is probably accurate.

so you didnt like the draw on 4th a 13 then? or the pass to number 89 instead of obj or landry?

Cuz our coach is in over his head.

Hope he learns quick cuz he’s costing us wins.

exactly!

Or make Monken HC and put Kitchens back at OC lol

Where did you hear that there was grumbling between the HC and OC?

there are stats disproving this. our OL are better that we are lead to believe. our play calling is terrible and baker is holdin the ball. 2 things that will make your OL look horrid.

agree 100%

Rookie head coach calling plays doesn't usually work out too well. Not a lot of kidding around and laughing it up and funny sound bites between Freddie and Baker so far this year.

One other thing:

We should have challenged the clear pass interference on RSJ when Talib shoved him out of bounds. We would have had off setting penalties and replayed second down.

Honestly, this goes to show that the offensive play design (and calling) is the problem, not Baker.

I'll leave it here

Yes our Oline is not that of Dallas's Oline...and it has issues, however it has been decent enough when everyone's available (dont get me wrong, we can use an influx of talent as well)

Our O is handicapped-the plays are evolving way too far downfield with questionable calls being placed...Baker is not seeing the field (visually I hope that's not why hes rolling) but hes having SEVERE issues with when and where to throw the ball...is that with our system? Is that with our HC? Or is that with Baker? I have no idea...everything is predictable this year, last year it was a polar opposite...all I know for certain, is the handicapped offense needs majorly adjusted or altered now...

It's both. Bailing out of clean pockets doesn't help anything.

The offense is broken. I'm not going to blame Baker, CLEARLY something with the coaching or schemes is making him very uncomfortable. I'm not even gonna give LA credit for that because this has gone on for 3 games now, and even his body language has been bad.

Something is clearly off, and I dont think its Bakers fault. I dont know enough about Monken to comment. Or who is calling the plays. They are wasting Baker. Something stinks here...

Aside from that....

Huge props to DC Steve Wilks and the Defense! They kept us in it all night. They were huge. Wouldnt have guessed our DB starters were all out. The backups stepped up. Good job, D!

That's the play I mentioned earlier in this thread.

Is this Monken's offense or Freddie's? How is Winston doing without Monken? Just curious as I haven't watched nor read anything about TB this year. But, it seems very strange that Mayfield appears so confused.

Baker is part of the problem, he’s not playing or reacting like he did last year. I’m hoping he settles down and gets comfortable again soon. The coaching is the biggest part of the problem. Freddie bought way too far into the hype, and did not have this team prepared to start the season. The defense is impressive. The offense, with all that hyped talent, is a disappointment so far. I have every hope that things progress, but Freddie and the coaching staff remain a big concern for me.

Wilks did ONE HELL OF A JOB for a DC that had half his team injured - i salute the "D" too!! They were great against a very good team,

I thought that play may have been a decoy in sending everyone deep for something to open up, but I couldn't really see anything...but very suspect as well.

Like I said for all the people that think Baker is bailing out of the pocket. Replay Goff's pockets, they were like a womb. Baker was throwing out of a quickly closing vise.

In fact go back and watch a replay of Baltimore and KC. Mahomes is throwing out of a clean pocket 80% of the time.

You will not get great QB play without a decent oline. If you have a poor oline (pass blocking) call appropriate plays. Run and play action play, run fast RPO's.

This entire post is pretty much false.

Winston has been the same...taking a crap load of time and forcing sacks and turnovers lol but I believe Winston was benched too in Monkens system, and Fitz shined, well for moments.

I agree to a point, but when you're only a second year QB, and you know you don't have the best tackles and RG, you're going to get happy feet. "Okay Baker, we have you pinned deep in your endzone, we need just 10 yards for a first, but we're going to run 3 WRs deep, and it should take them about 4 to 5 seconds before they even turn their heads around. Just stand in there and wait for it."

No your post is false, watch the tape.

Baker is holding the ball 3.07 snap to pass. 3rd highest in the league . He has a 0:3 td to not ratio and completing 55% . If you are getting over 3 seconds to throw, it’s not the oline. On the flip less than 2.5 he’s at 74% so I think it’s a mix between baker and scheme/playcalling. But if I’m the play caller I’m doing what I have to do to get the ball out with the playcalling to maximize what baker can do right now. That’s why the RPO worked. Sped up his decision making

But what is it? What would make him not say anything? He's not shy. Neither is OBJ.

If Freddie was running Haley's offense last year, and ditched it this year, we in BIG trouble.

I could go all night with the stupid play calling.

Porous oline, hey lets pass out of our end zone. Lucky as hell we did not get a safety, formally or by holding.

illegal shifts penalties non-stop. Terrible coaching!

Zero sets, non-stop shotgun???

Line looks horrible

Someone asked for help.steelers are 0/3

Glad I didn’t see the ol high snap out of Back of end zone Jff style