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It's different when you are actually on the team. He isn't a team mate to any of these guys and isn't playing for any coach.

That makes a huge difference. A character guy doesn't throw his team mates or coaches under the bus.

That is in correct! I was remarking to another who stated such.

Exactly, this whole thread has a tin-foil hat feel to it. We don't have any proof of any of this .. but the creator hates "Harvard Boys", so he just knows Depo is up to something. Don't really need proof or anything.



Depo isn't to blame because he straight-up ISN'T making any decisions. He has recommendations, based on what the data shows, and many times there is a consensus agreement between all parties that it's the direction we should go. If anything, the biggest times the team gets into trouble is when we get one person who want to go off and get "their guy". Haslam went against consensus and got Johnny Football and later, Hue Jackson. Dorsey had to get Freddie Kitchens. Jackson had to have AJ McCarron. Etc. Depo's never had an instance (That we've heard of) where he pounded the table for a guy that everyone else in the room was in disagreement.

From the sounds of it, it feels like we're trying to put together a Front Office that wants to row in the same direction, and put their humility in check if everyone else is against one of their decisions. That doesn't sound like a Power Coup to me.

Haslam didn't really hold back on Freddie in the press conference.

Yeah, but he also said it much nicer than most people, even legit NFL talking heads on Twitter.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.....you mean coaches putting players in the best situation to succeed should be the goal? Crazy.

Brings me back to this....

I think that he clearly showed Freddie's warts ... summarized with not looking for
"my way or the highway" character types.

"Im the Coach, and I am calling the plays"

I think that Dorsey could be said to fit this mold too, with the Depo binder in the trash can, which was a childish act (motives aside) from a man in his position.

That "Depo binder in the trashcan" story might be fake news, if what I read here yesterday is true.

And yet Freddie was relentless in trying to pound that square peg into a round hole...

Well thanks, but that does not surprise me with all of the speculations this week.

At least Haslam's presser answered the questions concerning Depo's role, which will remain the same, and I am good with that.

I'm good with that too. It's just amazing the conclusions people will jump to based on unsubstantiated rumors posted on Twitter.

Let me go make a twitter post that says that Dee Haslam was having an affair with John Dorsey. And that is the reason they parted ways.

Tomorrow it will be fact. *eye roll*

Yeah, like the one that said VP/PP Hightower was fired along with Dorsey.

I've been reading so much crap it's going to take a month to sort through how much of it is actually true and how much of it isn't.

According to some it's already gospel

Most certainly fake. A guy in Vancouver that was nothing more than a disgruntled caller to Cleveland Browns Daily does not have the inside scoop.

Seems like something that would have been left on the cutting room floor from Revenge of the Nerds.

<Ogre throws Gilbert's calculator on the ground and smashes it. Proceeds to push him down. Walks off laughing with the rest of the Alpha Betas>

j/c

I know Twitter is here to stay, but I think posting tweets should be restricted to verified accounts.

I understand your intent. However, Nate Ulrich, beat reporter for the ABJ is not verified. Neither is Scott Petrak, Browns beat reporter as well, among others.

Everyone has a choice whether or not to believe twitter accounts from sketchy accounts or accounts they are unfamiliar with.

For example, I do not believe the tweet from Cam From Canada about Dorsey tossing DePo's binder in the trash for a second regardless of how often it would be posted.

Again, I understand where you're coming from, however, we as consumers of information need to be a little more savvy on our end.

Or when a fan tweets something about a comment Josina Anderson said on ESPN and then try and make fun of the kid simply because they had no clue she actually said that on live air. and wanted to share info with people that chose to follow him.

People need to get a better understand of Twitter, and as a result, will realize what is real and what it is not. Even still, tweets will be wrong. Goodness, CNN has been doing that for years!

Maybe that is true.

I recall seeing that the analytic team told Jimmy not to hire Hue because he doesn't meet the parameters they laid out. It wasn't just that they said we recommend hiring so and so over Hue. Jimmy said yup, uh huh, gotcha, and then flew to Cincinnati and hired Hue anyway.

Best use of an animated GIF ever! Well done!

That's kind of odd. Just yesterday you said what the talking heads said was something you didn't pay attention to. Now today you suddenly seem interested in what someone on ESPN had to say. Odd how that works.

I'm not interested in it but I'm happy to give my opinion of where it came from. I'm more interested in pointing out that posters (you, for example) have a very rudimentary understanding of twitter and would rather make fun of a fan posting information from a ESPN show than doing research on the information to see where it came from.

Well since you don't care what these people say, what difference does it make where it came from? But you're pretty much right in regards to me not giving a damn about Twitter or care to learn why everyone and their brother want to spread rumors around.

The fact people waste their time with that is what puzzles me. Like yesterday people posting and raising the profile of a kid with 11 followers. It's pretty frivolous.

Because people like you trying to make fun of a kid just because he wanted to share information about what a journalist said on TV is sad. You made fun of the kid. Next time, question the reason why the poster on here decided to post his tweet instead trying to make this kid into a wannabe-journalist. It's another bad look.

Ah, but the kid didn't say he was sharing it from anywhere now did he?

So it's up to me to figure out where a kid gets his information from?

Sounds like some BS you would come up with.

Yes, if you want to claim he was a wannabe-journalist, that he made it up for twitter followers, and tried make fun of him for it. Sure.....absolutely.

It's funny.....your response to his tweet is ironically the exact thing you were trying to make fun of him for.

I get your point, and I wouldn't have a problem with recognized local beat writers' Twitter accounts being allowed, verified or not, assuming it was established that they were legit. But its not fair to expect the reader to know whether someone named Cam Canada (or whatever it was) is a real source or not. We are not all Twitter creatures. Before Twitter, the rule here at DT was that news reports had to be attributed, ideally with a link to an actual news site (not a blog). Posted rumors would be deleted. But now we find ourselves needing to be "savvy" about whether the source of posted info is legit or not. This is not progress, IMO. People have lives and jobs. It shouldn't be our job to somehow divine whether the info we are reading is reliable/legit/possibly true or not. If we read it here, it should - at the very least - be from a reliable source.

You feel that people should try and decipher where and why someone posted something on Twitter. That's ridiculous. Even on this board you have to site a source. If someone wants you to know where they gathered information from, they should give the source on their Twitter post.

I'm not doing their homework or research because they have no clue what they're doing.

Quoted for truth.

I feel people should be a lot smarter and aware.

Maybe you should try that.

Someone one-up'd him. \

#Notverified

As somebody who is high on Stefanski, and yet wants nothing to do with the talent evaluator that put together an 0-16 team (even a Hue coached team should at least one game), can someone explain the Stefanski/Berry connection? I don't get it. Is that just speculation or are they actually rumored to want to work together?

Stefanski is said to be analytically driven and Andrew Berry is as well. There is no other connection. Stefanski has worked for the Vikings his entire career.

J/c

The fact that MOST of us on here were begging FK to stay in 21 personnel and play to Baker’s strengths (some even broke it down in-depth) is quite telling

To my knowledge, as far as interpersonal relationships are concerned, there isn't any.

The only connections are towards an embracement of analytics and Depodesta's inclination to both of them. DePo preferred Stefanski over Kitchens last year and allegedly had a very good working relationship with Berry when he was here.

Also, on many accounts, the Haslems are/were fond of Andrew Berry.