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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
There is no reason not to re-sign Hunt to a 1st round tender offer. It's $4.7 million, but that's a deal for someone with his talent.

Having 2 All Pro caliber RBs is never a bad thing ..... especially when they both want to block for each other.


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Swish, that's a false equivalence. OBJ and Baker are not under high scrutiny after being suspended for battery by the league.

One mistake I can deal with, but when you are just off suspension and being monitored, a person with good judgment does not make that decision. I don't think this is something Garrett would do in his situation.

And btw one of my greatest hopes is that Stefanski will crackdown on the distracting but not illegal behavior of OBJ and Baker. Particularly Baker who is his own worst enemy.

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I have a couple more questions...

Why did the officer feel the need to search the vehicle in the first place?

How fast was he going and what was the posted limit?


its the magic "sir, i smell what seems like marijuana. i need to search your vehicle".

i get hit like that by Mentor cops a couple months ago. he claimed he smelled weed......after i just finished dropping 150 bucks to get my entire ride detailed. and speeding isnt a reason to have your vehicle searched. so the cops definitely had to hit him with the "i smell marijuana". its the go to excuse.

Did you consent?


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Consent is not needed,the odor of weed gives the officer probable cause to search.


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its the law.


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its not a false equivalency, unless youre ONLY talking about the league.

the league isnt talking about suspending him. the team isnt talking about cutting him. YOU are. so by that logic, what i said is perfectly valid.


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What if he is never tested? Small chance of that being the case, but you never know.

Then what? Is the juice worth the squeeze?


If there are no charges and it wasn't proven he was smoking weed, I don't see the juice in the first place.


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Cool. Then possibly another Antonio Callaway situation.


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The way it read, I thought maybe you challenged the search. Cops are beginning to back down once challenged on the "sniff test". Judges are throwing out evidence in states where it is legal, recreational or medically... In either situation there is no valid reason to suspect a "crime".


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well, up here its still decriminalized. so its not a big deal because the most they can do is write a ticket. its like 175 and doesnt even stay on your record. its like a speeding ticket and they send you on your way after taking the weed (the part that really sucks).

he wasnt cited for DWI, so that means the officer didnt suspect Hunt was high whatsoever, just he smelled weed in the car.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Cool. Then possibly another Antonio Callaway situation.


"Then possibly" being they key phrase in your sentence.


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Cool. Then possibly another Antonio Callaway situation.


"Then possibly" being they key phrase in your sentence.
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Yes. Thank you for confirming why I typed what I typed.


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My former college roommate (on the track team) did this when he found out he was going to be tested the next day. He left our place at 10 PM and just went running for 3 hours.

Passed with flying colors.
yeahhhhh I am going to call in and say bs on that one.


From what I know if you regularly smoke, this won't work. Since THC is stored in your fat cells.

If you smoke the day before / a couple days before and aren't a regular user, this can work.


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If it's stored in fat cells I will test positive for another 300 years then laugh


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If it's stored in fat cells I will test positive for another 300 years then laugh


You could go running for 3 hours and be done with it.


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I tried but I was wore out 6 seconds into the running part laugh


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Yes. Thank you for confirming why I typed what I typed.


You're welcome.


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I’m impressed Hunt was successful with the “these aren’t my pants” defense lol

In of itself it’s not a big deal, certainly not worth clutching our pearls over. But it’s like with the OBJ thing: why do things to invite problems in the first place? We like to blame Haslam for the reputation of being a circus, but every daggone year it seems like we have at least one player doing something stupid and totally unavoidable that only reinforces that there’s plenty of more circus where that came from.

If there isn’t one already, there ought to be a sign in Berea that says “X number of days since our last unprofessional mishap”


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J/C...I don't do anything unless he is suspended by the league, at which point I would cut him.


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J/C...I don't do anything unless he is suspended by the league, at which point I would cut him.


What he did doesn't change if the league suspends him. Does his infraction become worse because Roger Goodell is in a bad mood one day?

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Originally Posted By: CleVeLaNd_sTrife
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My former college roommate (on the track team) did this when he found out he was going to be tested the next day. He left our place at 10 PM and just went running for 3 hours.

Passed with flying colors.
yeahhhhh I am going to call in and say bs on that one.


From what I know if you regularly smoke, this won't work. Since THC is stored in your fat cells.

If you smoke the day before / a couple days before and aren't a regular user, this can work.


If you exercise, the fat is released into your kidneys. So this shouldn't work unless you are drinking tons of water while and after you run.


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J/C...I don't do anything unless he is suspended by the league, at which point I would cut him.


What he did doesn't change if the league suspends him. Does his infraction become worse because Roger Goodell is in a bad mood one day?


I don't know if it was a infraction. Do you know something I don't?

If he tests positive, it is a infraction. If he tests clean and the league suspends him anyway, then that is a different thing to be discussed when and if that happens.


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I would be surprised if the league hit him with something the cops wouldn't even slap a misdemeanor on him for.

Then again, it's Goodell and we're the Browns, so I expect a one year suspension under the "personal conduct" excuse.


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p.s. we STILL need to put a 1st-round tender on him, ASAP.


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I would be surprised if the league hit him with something the cops wouldn't even slap a misdemeanor on him for.

Then again, it's Goodell and we're the Browns, so I expect a one year suspension under the "personal conduct" excuse.






Maybe, but I don't see it much different than the Calloway deal.

I am mostly disappointed because some of these people are just stupid....I mean come on, what are we talking about here?

You have a employer willing to pay you $millions, and you keep making stupid mistakes.


Just stay clean. Retire at 35 with $millions, buy some prime growing land in Jamaica and grow all the prime reefer you want. Smoke all you want. I don't care. Just don't screw up my team and our chances because you are a dunce.


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While I do agree with you in principal, there is one place where we disagree.

Unlike pants, cars have a title to see who actually owns them. So whether it's actually his vehicle or not is easy to find out. Pants? Yeah, not so easy to figure out. wink


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Agreed. It seems so easy to us Ball but these players that keep messing up treat it like it was Nuclear Physics. superconfused Guess they never had to work for a living.

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Originally Posted By: Homewood Dog
Agreed. It seems so easy to us Ball but these players that keep messing up treat it like it was Nuclear Physics. superconfused Guess they never had to work for a living.


I get that too. Just seems to me that when you have the goose that lays gold eggs, you figure out a way to keep it.


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Don't have to go to Jamaica to grow your weed, soon will be legal in most of US, wonder when NFL will catch up with society. PS, never used weed myself, birth defects in children scared me enough. Hope Hunt can play, time will tell.


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Was Hunt charged with possession of weed?

The sad part is, Hunt just put himself on Depodesta's Moneyball list of assets to be used to gain more draft picks.


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Or he might just be looked at as a good, young player on a team-friendly contract, all of which would be viewed as positives in a "Moneyball" approach. We just don't really know.

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His contract is up. He's a RFA.


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For me its rather simple. KEEP HIM!

1. Hunt loves playing for the Browns as it is recorded to be his lifelong dream to play for us. The more players you have of this nature the more apt you are on changing the aura of playing for the Browns.

2. Any Offensive Coach would love the possibilities of a 2 back system especially of the likes of Chubb and Hunt. Hunt is willing to block and is not just good but "GREAT" pass catcher.

3. In this era the return in trading a rather good RB will not get you a great asset for the team. Him here will benefit us much more than what we would get back in return.

4. Make no mistake about it. Look at the 49ers running game, yes Shanahan is an outstanding coach but Stefanski is a diciple of Kubiak which is that Zone blocking scheme with a strong running game involved. We have some great pieces of the puzzle to achieve this and yes, involving our franchise QB, Chubb, Hunt and hopefully a healthy Njoku and the TE from Princeton! We also have some very talented WRs who would benefit with the strong playaction concepts involved with what I believe our offense will deliver.

Hunt is a positive for us in many ways, simply put.
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Or he might just be looked at as a good, young player on a team-friendly contract, all of which would be viewed as positives in a "Moneyball" approach. We just don't really know.


Haus...should the Browns keep him, damn right they should but I doubt he fits Depodesta's Moneyball scheme.


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KEEP HIM! He gives us a lot. And he is overjoyed to be here. Use them both at once. Use the other if one gets dinged. Pound on everyone with at least one solid tackle in FA and one in draft. But what would you give to have this situation in Berea for next year if you didn't already?

How about letting fans have a popular one kept, and try to make that work? Keep Hunt. Get more.


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We have some great pieces of the puzzle to achieve this and yes, involving our franchise QB, Chubb, Hunt and hopefully a healthy Njoku and the TE from Princeton!
There was a time when I could have legitimately asked, "which TE from Princeton?" smile


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Or he might just be looked at as a good, young player on a team-friendly contract, all of which would be viewed as positives in a "Moneyball" approach. We just don't really know.


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What's a Kareem Hunt?

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Or he might just be looked at as a good, young player on a team-friendly contract, all of which would be viewed as positives in a "Moneyball" approach. We just don't really know.


Haus...should the Browns keep him, damn right they should but I doubt he fits Depodesta's Moneyball scheme.


Moneyball? Really? That’d make the five billionth time you’ve typed that and made yourself look idiotic. Stop, for Christ’s sake! (Sorry, PastoMarc.)

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