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People keep saying this, but it's not the structure that causes the culture. It's the egomaniacs inside the structure that feel the need to try to "drive the bus" that cause the disfunction. Have Jimmy's poor hiring decisions caused/allowed that to happen? Sure, but it's not the structure causing the problems, it's the people that were in it.

It blows my mind that the only people responding to my post are guys I don't want to talk to.

I don't care if folks agree w/me. I just want honest conversation where we can go back and forth w/honorable intentions. I am not going to talk to those who lead w/insults and personal attacks.

Anyone interested in a civil discussion on the matter? Again, I have no problem if we disagree. Hell, I think an honest debate is a good thing. Hearing an argument from both sides helps folks learn. Pathetic insults and character assassinations do not.

Actually, it was you I was referring to. You also said we didn't need OBJ and that we were good to roll with the receivers we had.

But go ahead and change your story...

#agendamuch

(He doesn't either, he's just here to disagree)

I have no clue what your talking about ... i hardly read your replies to me much less anything else u say ... I’d rather try and talk to the dog than u ...

Change my story .... naaa ... here’s my story with OBJ ...

1st take ... nuttin to with the prima donna .. all the talent in the world with a 2 cent head ... i believed his price tag would be way to high ... at least two 1st rounders ...

2nd take ... WOOOOHOOOO .. we stole him ... thanks Dave ... THANKS KJ ...

3rd take - he should have been at OTA’s but that’s who he is ...

4th take - this ones new in that i haven’t shared it yet ..

Bummer on the injury ... great job handling yourself and the injury/adversity this year .. HORRIBLE JOB lining up .... not sure where that came from ... cause i always said he was a GREAT TEAMMATE despite being a prima donna ... all his teammates rave about him and his work ethic ...

And I’m not sure what any of that has to do with Bull’s well beneath him agenda post .. comparing OBJ to Higgs ... ...

U must be the sashiette that liked it ... u dan man ..

My explanation wasn’t for u ... it was to clear my opinions up ...

I’m sure your just upset that VG hasn’t been cut yet ... ...

I'm sorry, where did I use an insult or personal attack? I said I agreed with what you were saying through much of my post, and even asked you some specific questions that I'm generally curious what your answer is.

I would like to. Because I honestly wasn't sure about Dorsey.. Before i posted to you I did some research.. It's long I can't detail everything and some things are missing...I'm trying..

Dorseys FA signings...

2018 :

T.J. Carrie, CB.
Carlos Hyde, RB.
Chris Hubbard, OL.
Chris Smith, DL.

2019 :Sheldon Richardson, defensive tackle.
Demetrius Harris, tight end.
Kendall Lamm, offensive line.
Eric Kush, offensive lineman.


Draft picks..

2018 :
Round 1, No. 1 overall: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
Round 1, No. 4 overall: Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
Round 2, No. 33 overall: Austin Corbett, OL, Nevada
Round 2, No. 35 overall: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
Round 3, No. 67 overall: Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
Round 4, No. 105 overall: Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
Round 5, No. 150 overall: Genard Avery, LB, Memphis
Round 6, No. 175 overall: Damion Ratley, WR, Texas A&M
Round 6, No. 188 overall: Simeon Thomas, CB, Louisiana-Lafayette

2019 draft picks
Round 2, No. 46 overall: Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
Round 3, No. 80 overall: Sione Takitaki, OLB, BYU
Round 4, No. 119 overall: Sheldrick Redwine, S, Miami
Round 5, No. 155 overall: Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama
Round 5, No. 170 overall: Austin Seibert, K, Oklahoma
Round 6, No. 189 overall: Drew Forbes, OL, SE Missouri State
Round 7, No. 221 overall: Donnie Lewis Jr., CB, Tulane

2018 Trades
March 14, 2018: Traded DeShone Kizer, 2018 4th round pick (101st overall subsequently traded, Ian Thomas) and 2018 5th round pick (138th overall, Cole Madison) to Packers for Damarious Randall, 2018 4th round pick (114th overall subsequently traded, Da'Shawn Hand) and 2018 5th round pick (150th overall, Genard Avery)
March 14, 2018: Traded 2018 4th round pick (101st overall subsequently traded, Ian Thomas) and 2019 7th round pick (234th overall, Myles Gaskin) to Dolphins for Jarvis Landry
March 14, 2018: Traded Danny Shelton and 2018 5th round pick (159th overall subsequently traded, Daurice Fountain) to Patriots for 2019 3rd round pick (95th overall subsequently traded, Oshane Ximines)
March 14, 2018: Traded 2018 3rd round pick (65th overall subsequently traded, Brandon Parker) to Bills for Tyrod Taylor
March 15, 2018: Traded Jason McCourty and 2018 7th round pick (219th overall, Danny Etling) to Patriots for 2018 6th round pick (205th overall subsequently traded, Trevon Young)
April 27, 2018: Traded 2018 2nd round pick (64th overall, Tyquan Lewis) to Colts for 2018 3rd round pick (67th overall, Chad Thomas) and 2018 6th round pick (178th overall subsequently traded, Christian Sam)
April 28, 2018: Traded 2018 4th round pick (114th overall subsequently traded, Da'Shawn Hand) and 2018 6th round pick (178th overall, Christian Sam) to Patriots for 2018 4th round pick (105th overall, Antonio Callaway)
May 18, 2018: Traded Jamar Taylor to Cardinals for a 2020 6th round pick
August 5, 2018: Traded Corey Coleman to Bills for a 2020 7th round pick
August 31, 2018: Traded Shon Coleman to 49ers for 2019 7th round pick (243rd overall subsequently traded, Nick Scott)
September 1, 2018: Traded 2019 7th round pick (231st overall, Alize Mack) to Saints for Devaroe Lawrence
September 17, 2018: Traded Josh Gordon and 2019 7th round pick (243rd overall subsequently traded, Nick Scott) to Patriots for 2019 5th round pick (170th overall, Austin Seibert)
October 19, 2018: Traded Carlos Hyde to Jaguars for 2019 5th round pick (144th overall subsequently traded, Marvell Tell)


2019 trades
March 13, 2019: Traded Kevin Zeitler to Giants for Olivier Vernon
March 13, 2019: Traded Jabrill Peppers, 2019 1st round pick (17th overall, Dexter Lawrence) and 2019 3rd round pick (95th overall, Oshane Ximines) to Giants for Odell Beckham Jr.
April 2, 2019: Traded Emmanuel Ogbah to Chiefs for Eric Murray
April 26, 2019: Traded 2019 2nd round pick (49th overall, Ben Banogu) and 2019 5th round pick (144th overall, Marvell Tell) to Colts for 2019 2nd round pick (46th overall, Greedy Williams)
August 8, 2019: Traded Duke Johnson to Texans for a conditional 2020 pick (3rd or 4th-round pick)
August 29, 2019: Traded a 2020 5th round pick and a 2020 6th round pick to Bills for Wyatt Teller and a 2021 7th round pick
August 30, 2019: Traded David Blough and a conditional 2022 pick (7th-round pick) to Lions for a conditional 2022 pick (7th-round pick)
August 31, 2019: Traded a conditional 2020 pick (7th-round pick) to Packers for Jordan McCray and a conditional 2020 pick (7th-round pick)
August 31, 2019: Traded a 2020 7th round pick to Titans for Taywan Taylor
October 15, 2019: Traded Austin Corbett to Rams for a 2021 5th round pick
October 28, 2019: Traded Genard Avery to Eagles for a 2021 4th round pick

I really don't want to do all the acquisitions .. Players like Hunt and Robinson etc...

I don't want to be lazy.. I just don't want to go back and look at who is still on the team..who Dorsey signed and drafted then cut or traded.

Sure seems he likes pot heads..lol just kidding. I'd rather see the NFL get rid off the pot test. It's okay for the team DR to take a player off the field..give them a shot of who knows what to get them back on the field so they can make the org win and money.. But the player in pain can't smoke a little natural weed to help the pain.. Yeah that's another discussion.

I didn't remember the Tyrod Trade was Dorseys.. I do like the Chubb and Landry pick ups.. Others are still on the question mark with myself...Not saying good or bad. Just got to see what happens this season.

I was referring to this.

I'm beginning to think you're a closet sashiette.... it's all starting to make sense.

From your link.

He also explained in the same link he didn't want OBJ.

Then explained here how he didn't like him, liked him, didn't like him and now likes him.

Doesn't get any more wishy washy, back and forth than that... gotta cover all bases.

Carry on.

U think i clicked on your link ... ...

I got new info (STEALING OBJ) and the new info led me to change my mind ... and u call that wish washy ... BRILLIANT! ... awesome way to go through life ...

Difficult to have a reasonable conversation with a handful of you.

Good luck.

I know how you feel.

Eliot Wolf lands with Patriots...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-rumors-patriots-hire-former-175441225.html