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You obviously arent grasping the point. The examples are countless, on when a player leaves a team, he plays his former team the next year. Go look it up for yourself if you dont believe me. NFL loves their story lines

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You obviously arent grasping the point. The examples are countless, on when a player leaves a team, he plays his former team the next year. Go look it up for yourself if you dont believe me. NFL loves their story lines

Alright. Yep. The NFL will make sure only teams that play the Browns next year are allowed to sign Joe. You do realize our opponents are already determined for next year, right?


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The problem with hiring Andrew Berry as the GM, is the Browns won't be able to sign quality players.


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until you can't sign anyone with the money, which is exactly what Haslam wants



I don't believe either of these things are true. But if so, I'd wonder what proof there is to prove them.

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For not knowing much about analytics, you sure know an awful lot about analytics.

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I don't believe either of these things are true. But if so, I'd wonder what proof there is to prove them.


None, zero, zip, nadda, aucun, ninguna, nessuna, keiner, ayikho, and nemo just to name a few.


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For not knowing much about analytics, you sure know an awful lot about analytics.


I understand 0 + 0 = 0 and even more complex math than that ...

Others on the other hand ... thumbsup




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The player comments about Schobert are telling. They don’t have to say anything, but seem outspoken about what he is as a player


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I don't believe either of these things are true. But if so, I'd wonder what proof there is to prove them.


None, zero, zip, nadda, aucun, ninguna, nessuna, keiner, ayikho, and nemo just to name a few.


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Dorsey poisoned this well more than a year ago. The crap that has splashed on their shoes comes from a pile that Dorsey left on his way out.


Yeah, they won more games in the past two seasons than they did in many years. That must have really left a pile to step in on their shoes.


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Mitchel Schwartz says: "That sounds familiar."


Familiar?

So...Joe is signing a contract with another team for less money than we offered him?


If you were going into your third HC in two years you might too.


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So we're back to being cheap, and uninterested in quality players. I just love these analytical guys


As was pointed out earlier, Dorsey wasn't going to sign him, so your point it very jaded.


It was pointed out but may not be accurate.


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Releasing Christian Kirksey is not a surprise but it is sad. He was a clear leader on the team that was all the way bought in. The fact of the matter is that his production (and health) no longer matched his salary. Football sucks sometimes.

In releasing Kirksey our cap space went from $61,964,940 to $68,129,940.

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And the beat goes on.

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Releasing Christian Kirksey is not a surprise but it is sad. He was a clear leader on the team that was all the way bought in. The fact of the matter is that his production (and health) no longer matched his salary. Football sucks sometimes.

In releasing Kirksey our cap space went from $61,964,940 to $68,129,940.


Absolutely. Good guy and I hope he lands on a good team and can stay healthy.

This move was predictable.

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If it wasn't already clear it is now. We need linebackers. The only linebacker on the roster with any significant playing experience is Mack Wilson (and he was bad last year).

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Kirksey played in nine games the last two seasons and had two major injuries.

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They were freeing up extra money to sign Schobert!

Nick Kwiatkowski?

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They were freeing up extra money to sign Schobert!

Nick Kwiatkowski?


I'm expecting Danny Trevathan.

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I liked Kirksey but anyone that roots for the Browns saw this coming ... Thanks Christian I wish you well and God Bless smile


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j/c, Now who is going to call for a Dawg Check?

This move was predictable, but with Joe hitting the open market, it was probably not so wise to cut him now.


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Originally Posted By: FL_Dawg
This move was predictable, but with Joe hitting the open market, it was probably not so wise to cut him now.


Kirksey was never going to be back. It doesn't have anything to do with Schobert.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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They were freeing up extra money to sign Schobert!

Nick Kwiatkowski?


I'm expecting Danny Trevathan.


Yes, lets hope he is part of the plan.


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I am so thrilled that we are back to creating holes and listening to a few posters justify each move. And no, I don't use purple.

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I am so thrilled that we are back to creating holes and listening to a few posters justify each move. And no, I don't use purple.


There was no hole created. We were always going to need to replace Kirksey and/or Schobert this off-season. Before the 2019 season people knew Kirksey was going to be cut.

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not sure why Olivia Vernon is still on the Roster. I'd figure the new regime would get ride of him first, before Schobert or Kirksey.

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This move was predictable, but with Joe hitting the open market, it was probably not so wise to cut him now.


Kirksey was never going to be back. It doesn't have anything to do with Schobert.


It does as far as filling out the roster.

Now instead of one hole, we created another in a position of weakness already.


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not sure why Olivia Vernon is still on the Roster. I'd figure the new regime would get ride of him first, before Schobert or Kirksey.


Because he might actually have a role to play on the 2020 team. I'd expect he still gets cut at some point.

Also, nobody got rid of Schobert. He's a free agent.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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They were freeing up extra money to sign Schobert!

Nick Kwiatkowski?


I'm expecting Danny Trevathan.


I think this front office would go with the younger guy, that being Kwiatkowski, but who knows.

Here's the comparison from PFF:

Danny Trevathan (Turns 30 on 3/24):
Overall - 61.9
Run Defense - 70.9
Pass Rush - 77.3
Coverage - 50.3
Total Snaps = 559
*Injured week 10 that ended season

Nick Kwiatkowski (Turns 27 on 5/26):
Overall - 72.6
Run Defense - 67.1
Pass Rush - 81.8
Coverage - 68.7
Total Snaps = 512
+Started 8 of 16 games this past season

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This move was predictable, but with Joe hitting the open market, it was probably not so wise to cut him now.


Kirksey was never going to be back. It doesn't have anything to do with Schobert.


It does as far as filling out the roster.

Now instead of one hole, we created another in a position of weakness already.


We have one starting linebacker spot open (I am assuming Mack Wilson is penciled in as the starter right now). That didn't change because Kirksey got cut.

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Good move. He isnt a good player. The problem Boo Berry will have is signing anyone.

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There are a few posters who are going to repeat the same things a thousand times or until whenever the rest of the board accepts their version of the truth. Not sure which will occur first. LOL

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If Vernon does not restructure his contract, I expect he won't be here this coming season.

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We have the Cap Money and Draft Picks to fill all theses holes, I don't think it's panic time like in past years ... superconfused


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