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Just drink your trumpian koolaid and stop trash talking the left. We get it, you're a Trump man or whatever... Almost everything you post about the left is a flat out lie, but I seriously think you believe those lies. That does not make you smart, but you are still entitled to your opinion.

If the left was nearly as bad as you and a few others paint them, there would have been no election after Obama, we would have just kept him, took all the poor white babies to Hillary's pedo camps and melted down all y'alls guns to make LGBTQ sex appliances and made you watch them being used. And then we would televise abortions as part of our re education camps located at the open borders... GMAB you sound like Qanon lately.

wow.

That sentence covered a lot of Real Estate-

It may have run on all by itself. That's what happens when the words are pointed and strong.

Do Hispanic lives matter.

Not under Trump!

Trump supporters...lol ignore the meme. I’m directing this STRAIGHT AT OCD AND ROCKET.

And the weird....

Going with the nougat because i hate the crap bro.

smh what a simpleton.

Is that what they call senile blabbering these days?

OMG, that's hilarious.

j/c...

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
NEWS: Treasury has sanctioned ANDRII DERKACH for election interference.

https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
Updated sanctions list includes three Russians and also designated for foreign interference in the U.S. election. https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/

The US Sanctioned One Of The Ukrainians Helping Rudy Giuliani Try To Dig Up Dirt On Joe Biden

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/andriy-derkach-sanctioned-ukrainian

That was when Rudy was acting rouge, totally on his own, Trump barely knows him or what he was doing.

You must have missed the posts where I called him an arrogant bastage, said that he lied every step of the way with the COVID pandemic and that I was not voting for him.

pffffft tunnel vision

Excuuuuse me, appearances are deceiving....it must be really painful for some conservatives to turn their backs on such a POS Potus.

For some conservatives? Maybe. But I don't think it's so hard for others.

In all honesty? It really is painful to see this guy representing the republican party. I have no problem admitting that.

Hilarious.

No more painful than it is for me to see this guy representing the United States of America.


My Father enlisted at the age of 17 to serve his country in WWII. Church-going family man, cop, patriot, role model. I still miss him every day, but I am thankful he isn't around to see this.

Women Accused of Stealing MAGA Hat from 7-Year Old Charged with Hate Crime
Wilmington Police Department


Katherine Rodriguez


9 Sep 2020


Two Delaware women accused of stealing a seven-year old’s “Make America Great Again” (MAGA) hat outside the Democratic National Convention have been charged Tuesday with second-degree robbery and felony hate crimes.

Olivia Winslow and Camryn Amy, each 21 years old, were indicted by a grand jury on Tuesday on felony robbery charges, hate crime and conspiracy charges, and a misdemeanor charge of endangering the welfare of a child, the New York Post reported.

Delaware Online reported that three of the charges are felonies, and if convicted, the women could spend up to 15 years behind bars.

Amy and Winslow are out on bail, according to a spokesperson for Delaware Attorney General Kathy Jennings.

“[H]arming another person – let alone a child – because of the expression of their views betrays the principles on which our country was founded,” Jennings said in a statement to Delaware Online.

Both women were arrested in connection with a viral video that allegedly showed the two women ripping up pro-Trump signs and stealing a MAGA hat from a seven-year-old in front of his mother.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/...source=facebook

They were just trying to protect the kid from child abuse. No one should be forced to wear a MAGA hat

Jk, you don't mess with other peoples stuff.Period.
The kid probably had no idea what that hat means or stands for.


I have never been a fan of those hate crime laws. If I kill someone is it really worse that I killed them for hate crime driven reasons than if I killed them just because I bored and had nothing better to do?

Oh the humanity! It's just like lying to the FBI.

Trump needs a new hat. MLCA. Making liberals cry again.

You've been doing a lot of crying lately. So has Trump. Fear tactics and arming up. It's what you all do every time you know you're going to loose an election.

Thats what hilary said.

That's also what Obama said, twice.

Roger Stone Calls For Trump To 'Declare Martial Law' To Seize Power If He Loses

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/roger-stone-martial-law-donald-trump-election-001425669.html

This is what trump supporters want: a trump dictatorship. They don’t push back on anything trump does, and in most cases support it.

Honestly I think it’s in their nature. Being controlled by right wing authoritarian governments. They already believe in one god ruling over everybody. And you always hear about how trump was ordained by god from the religious right.

Throughout history, you know who’s also been “ordained by god?” Kings, queens......and dictators.

To it’s clear as day. When you look at history and how the religious losers came -lol - searching for a better life here in America, we had some of the most crazy religious nut bags migrate here from Europe way back in the day.

The puritans. Boy, do they crazy asses remind me of trump supporters today.

Unthinkable.

Trump suggests he should get two more terms
Reuters Videos Reuters Videos•September 13, 2020


In a state where polls show his Democratic rival Joe Biden is ahead, the president mused about staying in office 12 years, despite constitutional limits that prohibit U.S. presidents from serving more than two, four-year terms.

"We are going to win four more years in the White House and then after that we'll negotiate, right, because we're probably, based on the way we were treated, we're probably entitled to another four after that," he said.

Trump again accused Democrats of trying to "rig" the Nov. 3 election and he knocked Biden over an ad that criticized Trump for allegedly making derogatory comments about U.S. war dead.

Trump has denied making the remarks.

Video Transcript

- Please welcome the 45th president of the United States, Donald J. Trump!

[MUSIC - LEE GREENWOOD, "GOD BLESS THE USA"]

DONALD TRUMP: 52 days from now, we're going to win Nevada.

[CROWD CHEERING]

And we're going to win four more years in the White House.

[CROWD CHEERING]

And then, after that, we'll negotiate, right? Because we're probably-- based on the way we were treated, we're probably entitled to another four after that.

[CROWD CHEERING]

But he's a pathetic human being to let that happen, where they put an ad like that where I'm standing over graves. And then they said, he said this-- with no sources, no nothing. They got nothing. And I have 25 real witnesses with the names, with everything, saying it never happened. And they put an ad like that up? They're a disgrace. But you know the good part? Now I can be really vicious.

[CROWD CHEERING]

I could be really vicious.

We're going to start by saying that the Democrats are trying to rig this election. Because it's the only way they're going to win.

Hispanics like-- Hispanics like tough people. They like people that are going to produce jobs. They like-- and by the way, the Hispanics understand the border better than anybody else.

We're going to have tremendous growth. Joe Biden's party continues to attack our incredible border agents. They're incredible people-- more than half of whom happen to be Hispanic Americans. Did you know that?

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

I know all of them. Jose, how you doin'? Juan, how you doin'? Every once in-- like, every sixth time, I'd say, hello, Jim, how are you?

We will make America great again. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suggests-two-more-terms-101405717.html

this is the problem with this sort of rhetoric.

these trump supporters are so clueless that they actually believe trump is just trolling the left and trying to get people to react.

no, trump is dead ass serious when he says these things.

every time, its "oh, he was just joking," or "thats not what he meant."

which is funny because those SAME people will turn around and go "well, if its ticks off the libs, i'm all for it!"

sorry, but there is simply no reasoning with people who think like that, and allow themselves to get played this hard.

Trump relishes his role as a divider as he vows to be 'vicious'

(CNN)Taking the stage at a rally in Nevada Saturday night, President Donald Trump didn't hold back.

He said his anger about a recent Democratic ad that highlighted his alleged comments disparaging dead American soldiers had freed him to take his campaign to the next level: "Now I can be really vicious," he said to roars of approval from the crowd of Trump supporters in Minden.

The President, who has long relished his role as a divider who amasses power by creating a climate of fear, went on to describe his opponent, Joe Biden, as "shot" and a puppet of the radical left, before accusing Democrats of trying to "lock law-abiding Americans in their homes" during the pandemic as they fight God, guns and oil.

"At no time before has there been a clearer choice between two parties or two visions, two philosophies, two agendas for the future. There's never been anything like this," Trump said during the rally where he claimed he was "probably entitled" to a third term because he's been so poorly treated. "The Democrats are trying to rig this election, because it's the only way they're gonna win," he said.

Trump's divisive tactics this weekend immediately erased the fleeting moment of unity that came Friday as the nation marked the 19th anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

At the 9/11 memorial service in New York City, the nation caught a glimpse of the spirit of bipartisanship that existed back in 2001 as it reeled from the terrorist attacks. Biden and Vice President Mike Pence exchanged an elbow bump as they passed one another, a rare moment of comity within a deeply polarized nation led by a President who continues to divide Americans and turn them against one another, even as the nation is gripped by crisis.

The anniversary led many to reflect on how dramatically different Trump's leadership style is from virtually all of the recent presidents who came before him. It recalled the images of President George W. Bush climbing atop a pile of rubble in lower Manhattan with a bullhorn attempting to unify the nation and speak for it as he sent love and compassion to first-responders and those affected by the tragedy.

Yet here we are, more than six months into a pandemic that's killed more than 193,000 Americans, with a President who continues to lie about downplaying the deadly virus in February and March and who insists that his administration has done everything right as the US leads the world in coronavirus cases, while attempting to win reelection by pitting Americans of different races against each other and creating a climate of fear.

Division permeating American life

Trump's rhetoric at his Saturday rally was emblematic of his political strategy since he began running for the presidency in 2015. But his embrace of division and discord now seems to have permeated every aspect of Americans' lives, from football to the simple act of wearing a mask, while at the same time, he has tried to subjugate some of the most independent agencies of government to his political desires.

As Trump has minimized the importance of the life-saving act of wearing a mask, there have been angry confrontations over mask-wearing: the people asking patrons to put on masks have been spat on, shouted at, and in several cases, assaulted.

While there appeared to be a chance for bipartisan unity on the issue of racial justice after the killing of George Floyd this spring, the President's efforts to vilify demonstrators as "thugs," rioters and looters while portraying himself as the paragon of "law and order" have led Americans to retreat to their partisan corners. A CNN poll released earlier this month showed opinions about racism and the protests aimed at confronting it have become more divided by party.

While the protests against police brutality have been predominantly peaceful, some of the most frightening confrontations have unfolded when Black Lives Matter demonstrators were confronted by far-right agitators and armed vigilantes who seemed to heed Trump's calls to dominate the streets -- with some likely emboldened by the President's refusal to condemn the violence unless it was directed at his own supporters.

After Trump's relentless efforts to disparage players who kneel during the National Anthem as a form of protest against systematic racism and police brutality, fans at Arrowhead Stadium this week booed after an announcer asked for a "moment of silence dedicated to the ongoing fight for equality in our country" before the kickoff at the Kansas City Chiefs and Houston Texans game. (The crowd ultimately applauded after the two teams linked arms to form a chain).

Undermining US institutions

And while political polarization in Washington pre-dated Trump, the intransigence has grown during his presidency. Though thousands of Americans are out of work and struggling with the economic fallout from the pandemic, it is now unlikely that any stimulus deal to aid workers, schools and small businesses will come to fruition until after the election -- just six months after Congress passed the largest stimulus in history in the early months of the crisis.

In Trump's continuing effort to make agencies that cherished their independence from politics beholden to his political goals, Americans learned this weekend that Trump-appointed communications officials at the US Department of Health and Human Services sought to change language within the weekly science reports released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention so that it would align with the President's message.

Michael Caputo, the lead spokesman for HHS who is a former Trump campaign official, defended the practice in a statement to CNN by offering the unfounded conspiracy theory that the CDC is under attack by deep-state actors.

"Our intention is to make sure that evidence, science-based data drives policy through this pandemic -- not ulterior deep state motives in the bowels of CDC," Caputo said.

That report came after the uproar over a whistleblower's allegations that top political appointees in the Department of Homeland Security instructed career officials to modify intelligence assessments to downplay Russia's efforts to interfere in the US election and the threat of White supremacists, presumably because those assessments weren't helpful to Trump's agenda.

The administration's efforts to control health and intelligence messaging follows the weeks-long controversy over the moves by Trump and his Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a major Trump donor, to undercut the operations of the post office at a time when an unprecedented number of Americans hope to vote by mail to avoid exposure to the coronavirus at the polls.

Election 2020: Send us your stories about voting issues
On Saturday, Trump once again seemed to urge his supporters to engage in the criminal act of voting twice in the critical swing state of North Carolina, where he and Biden are locked in a tight race.

"NORTH CAROLINA: To make sure your Ballot COUNTS, sign & send it in EARLY. When Polls open, go to your Polling Place to see if it was COUNTED. IF NOT, VOTE!" Trump tweeted Saturday. "Your signed Ballot will not count because your vote has been posted. Don't let them illegally take your vote away from you!"

North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein responded on Twitter with his own all-caps message: "Do NOT do what the President directs," he wrote. "To make sure your ballot COUNTS, sign and send it in EARLY. Then track it ONLINE with BALLOTTRAX. Do NOT vote twice (it's a felony)."

And in Nevada, Trump continued to undermine confidence in America's election systems and mail-in-ballots, claiming that Democrats are "trying to rig this election" while simultaneously arguing that he should be able to "negotiate" for 12 years in the White House.

"We're going to win four more years in the White House and then after that we'll negotiate, right? Because ...based on the way we were treated, we're probably entitled to another four after that," he said.

Because in Trump's America, no institution, including democracy, is sacrosanct. He seems to think the rules don't apply to him if they stand in the way of his political ambitions -- even the 22nd Amendment, which bars the President from serving for more than two terms. And he seems willing to use whatever means necessary to bend them even if he further divides the nation in the process.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/politics/2020-election-donald-trump-division-joe-biden/index.html

Fox News poll shows Trump losing to Biden on "mental soundness"

Likely voters believe that Democratic nominee Joe Biden is more mentally sound that President Donald Trump, according to a recently-released Fox News poll.

The survey of likely 1,191 likely voters found that 51% believe that Biden "has the mental soundness to serve as president."

Only 47% of likely voters told Fox News that President Trump has the "mental soundness" to be commander-in-chief.

The current president has made his mental stability a cornerstone of his campaign.

The same voters preferred the compassion of Biden over Trump, 62% to 44%, the poll found.

In all, the Fox News survey found that 51% of likely voters would choose Biden and 46% of likely voters would pick Trump if the election were held today.

The poll has a margin of error of ± 2.5 percentage points.

Read the entire poll from Fox News.

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/13/fox-new...ndness_partner/

Crowd aims 'lock him up' chant at Obama during Trump rally

A crowd at President Trump's rally Sunday evening chanted "lock him up" after the president accused his predecessor, former President Obama, of being caught "spying" on the 2016 Trump campaign.

During the event in Henderson, Nev., Trump told attendees that the former president "got caught spying on my campaign," referring to longstanding accusations from him and his allies that the investigation into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russia in 2016 was orchestrated by the Obama administration in an attempt to sink his candidacy, a claim for which there is no evidence.

In response, many attendees began chanting "lock him up!", a riff on the "lock her up" chant the president encouraged during his 2016 run against Hillary Clinton (D), during which he alleged that his opponent had committed crimes by operating a private email server as secretary of state.



The president has ratcheted up his rhetoric aimed at Obama in recent months, accusing the former president in June of committing "treason" while touting the upcoming results of the Justice Department's investigation into the origins of the probe into the Trump campaign.

“Treason. Treason. It’s treason,” Trump told CBN News in June.

“They’d been spying on my campaign,” the president added at the time. “Turned out I was right. Let’s see what happens to them now.”

His repeated baseless claims come as the Justice Department's own inspector general previously told the Senate late last year that neither the former president nor former Vice President Joe Biden (D) were involved with the decision to begin the investigation.

“We certainly didn’t see any evidence of that in the FBI’s files or the department’s files," he told the Senate Judiciary Committee in December.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/51...ing-trump-rally

Trump claims he won non-existent ‘Bay of Pigs’ award - and says Biden won Nobel Peace Prize
The Independent
Kate Ng
,The Independent•September 14, 2020

As the battle for the presidency rages on, Donald Trump has claimed he received a “highly-honoured Bay of Pigs Award” from Cuban Americans in an attack on his rival’s alleged poor track record with Latin Americans on Sunday.

The president also confused Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden for former president Barack Obama when boasting about his Nobel Peace Prize nominations during a campaign rally.

In a tweet on Sunday, following reports that Vermont democratic socialist senator Bernie Sanders has “concerns” about Mr Biden’s campaign, Mr Trump said: “Sleepy Joe Biden has spent 47 years in politics being terrible to Hispanics.

“Now he is relying on Castro lover Bernie Sanders to help him out. That won’t work!

“Remember, Miami Cubans gave me the highly honoured Bay of Pigs Award for all I have done for our great Cuban Population!”

But as it turns out, there is no such award as a Bay of Pigs Award, as many on the social media platform pointed out and mocked the president for.

The Bay of Pigs invasion was a failed landing operation on the southwestern coast of Cuba in 1961, carried out by Cuban exiles trying to overthrow Fidel Castro. The operation was sponsored by the CIA and its failure continues to plague US-Cuban relations.

The Obama administration sought to improve relations and he became the first US president to visit Havana in nearly a century in 2016. But Mr Trump reversed his predecessor’s efforts to foster relations with Cuba, rolling back its “people-to-people” educational travel permits and prohibiting cruise ships from calling into the island.

Mr Trump previously visited a Bay of Pigs museum in Little Havana, in Miami, in October 2016. During the visit, he received a “hand-painted Brigade 2506 shield”, which is the “award” in question, his campaign has insisted. Brigade 2506 is the unit which carried out the failed invasion.


The Bay of Pigs Veterans Association gave Mr Trump an endorsement in 2016, the first ever from the group of Florida-based veterans – but no award comes with it.

Having been nominated for a second Nobel Peace Prize, Mr Trump also took the opportunity to brag about his nominations and criticise the “fake news media” again for not applauding him highly enough.

Speaking to a cheering crowd during a rally in Henderson, Nevada, on Sunday, he said: “They nominated your president twice last week, for two different subjects, for a Nobel prize – but the fake news media didn’t cover it.”

He then continues to say that Mr Biden “got it”, before pausing and correcting himself, adding: “Remember when our great president Barack Hussein Obama, he got it.”

Mr Biden has never received a Nobel Peace Prize, but he has been endorsed by 81 American winners of the prize in the fields of chemistry, medicine and physics for his support for science.

Mr Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people”, as well as his promotion of nuclear nonproliferation.

Last week, a right-wing Norwegian politician told Fox News he nominated Mr Trump for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize for his role in brokering a peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Christian Tybring-Gjedde said he believed Mr Trump “has done more trying to create peace between nations than most other Peace Prize nominees”.

Days later, Magnus Jacobsson, a member of the Swedish Parliament, announced he nominated the president’s administration alongside the governments of Kosovo and Serbia for brokering a peace deal between the two European nations.

Under Nobel Peace Prize rules, any member of a national parliament can nominate a candidate for the award, among others, including university professors.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-won-non-existent-111929069.html

Millionaires Would Pay Up Under Biden Tax Plans, Study Shows

Bloomberg
Laura Davison
BloombergSeptember 14, 2020

(Bloomberg) -- Millionaires could see much bigger tax bills if Democrat Joe Biden is elected president in November, but levies on most households below the top income brackets would stay about the same as under President Donald Trump, an outside analysis shows.

Biden’s tax proposals would have the top 0.1% of earners -- those currently making about $3.3 million or more annually -- paying a 43% rate on their income, according to the Penn Wharton Budget Model. That top group pays a rate of about 30.6% under Trump’s 2017 tax law, according to the report, which accounts for income, payroll and corporate duties.

The figures highlight the key dividing line between the two candidates when it comes to taxes. The Trump campaign has run ads saying Biden’s increases would crush middle-class families, but the data show there would be little effect for most who earn less than $400,000. Trump has said he wants to cut taxes again, but hasn’t released a plan on how he would do that.

Biden’s platform would increase the top rate to 39.6%, where it was before Trump’s overhaul pared it to 37%. The Democrat would also tax capital gains earnings the same as regular income for top earners, and impose an additional payroll levy on incomes above $400,000. Payroll taxes are currently only paid on the first $137,700 of income. About 80% of Biden’s increases would fall on the top 1% of earners, or those earning at least $710,000, according to the report.

The biggest tax increases in the Biden plan are the corporate tax at $1.4 trillion over the 10-year budget window, followed by the payroll tax at $992.8 billion and the individual income tax at $944 billion, according to the study.

Biden would do little to tinker with the tax obligations of those earning less than $400,000 a year. Middle-income households would see slightly higher rates due to indirect effects of higher corporate taxes. For example, the middle 20% of earners, who now pay an effective tax rate of 16.9%, would owe 17.3% under Biden.

“There is a tax increase on the lower earners, but it’s small and it’s through those indirect tax effects,” said Richard Prisinzano, director of policy analysis at the Penn Wharton Budget Model.

Proposed tax rates under Biden’s plans are far lower than some touted by more progressive Democrats. Senator Bernie Sanders, who battled Biden for the party’s nomination before endorsing him, proposed rates as high as 97.5% on some of the richest Americans. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York has called for taxing income above $10 million at 70%.

Biden’s plans would raise $3.4 trillion over the next decade, or some $2 trillion dollars short of covering the $5.4 trillion price tag for his spending programs, the analysis showed. But after accounting for the macroeconomic effects of his immigration, infrastructure, health and other proposals, federal debt would decrease by 6.1% and gross domestic product would rise by 0.8% by 2050 relative to current law, according to the report.

The Penn Wharton Budget Model is a nonpartisan, research-based initiative that provides economic analysis of the fiscal impact of public policy, according to its website. The group describes its goal as “providing rigorous analysis without policy advocacy.”


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/millionaires-pay-under-biden-tax-120156785.html