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oobernoober #1873816 08/04/21 09:48 AM
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Yes, the blood clotting risk is the J & J.

My cousin's aunt got that vaccination and two or three days later died from a blood clot (or clots). It can happen.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
You've never schooled me on anything. Period.


Some people refuse to learn. Some people refuse to try and find out what's going on in the world around them.

Let me give you a prime example as of late. You made a ridiculous statement that "vaccines do not protect you from getting Covid". I had to post sources from the CDC itself to show that there is a pretty high effective rate in preventing people from contracting the virus. No, it's not foolproof. But it does give you a fairly high level of preventing you from ever getting Covid. So much so they call those who do get Covid after being vaccinated breakthrough cases. It's not as effective on the Delta variant but still offers a certain level of protection.

But yeah, like I said, you can't school anyone who refuses to learn.


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Woah. I'm really sorry to hear that.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
Woah. I'm really sorry to hear that.


Thanks. (I didn't know her though.)

A few month's back my uncle got his first vaccination, caught Covid, then passed away a few days later. He wasn't in good health, in a nursing home.

My brother-in-law's mom just caught Covid and passed away earlier this week. She wasn't vaccinated and had had a stroke a few months earlier.

All of the above people were over 70 years of age. I'm 55 now. For me and my family, that whole generation is passing away. Sad but death is part of life, at least for here on earth.

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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
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Do you mean a few aches and pains, fatigue for a day or so? Do you mean among those who are already immune deficient? Or are you speaking of any serious, long term side effects among otherwise healthy people?


The least amount of long-term side effects among otherwise healthy people.


I'm not sure this will answer all of your questions but it does show how anti virus vaccines work, their history of side effects, why long term side effects are so rare and does point to the statistics of any long term side effects they've seen. Hopefully it will at least answer some of your questions.

Three things to know about the long-term side effects of COVID vaccines

https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/121...-covid-vaccines


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Originally Posted By: dawglover05
That was very empathetic and well said. Good reminder to me that I need to dial back from my own combative proclivities.


I felt like I needed to balance out some earlier posts. I have no problem having an honest discussion with anyone that has sincere skepticism about the vaccines. As I mentioned, I feel there's still room for healthy debate there, so long as it's sincere and reasonable. The Facebook nanobots/Bells Palsy nonsense obviously doesn't fall into that category.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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You can try and reason with those willing to be reasonable.


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If you dig deep there are no real issues.


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You are a victim of your own ignorance.

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Thanks for posting, I'll read it as soon as I have an extra few minutes.

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Originally Posted By: bonefish

You are a victim of your own ignorance.


Sad part is for people who suffer this NOTHING can change their minds.

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Originally Posted By: ChargerDawg
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Don't take the NON FDA APPROVED Vaccine 3rd!!!!

WHICH IS ALL OF THE VACCINES...

Everyone that takes it is a Guinea pig/Lab rat.


So where did you get your medical degree??? University of Facebook? or University of Twitter?

I could go elsewhere, but I will refrain.



he's a grad of Trump U.....


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Are you sure he actually graduated?


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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
Yes, the blood clotting risk is the J & J.

My cousin's aunt got that vaccination and two or three days later died from a blood clot (or clots). It can happen.


Sorry to hear that 3rd. My condolences.

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Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
Yes, the blood clotting risk is the J & J.

I stand corrected.

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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
Yes, the blood clotting risk is the J & J.

I stand corrected.

On every single post you ever made about Covid.


The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Sorry to hear that.

What was her condition before the vaccine?

Did she have issues before? Did she consult her doctor before the vaccine about any pre existing conditions?

What was her age?

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sorry to hear that, 3rd. keep your head up bro.


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Sorry to hear about your fam, 3rd.

No one should have to suffer so much loss.


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Originally Posted By: bonefish

Sorry to hear that.

What was her condition before the vaccine?

Did she have issues before? Did she consult her doctor before the vaccine about any pre existing conditions?

What was her age?


Sorry but I don't have any additional info except what I posted, I didn't know her.

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I watched one of your stupid videos.

watch this one of this man documenting his experience with covid.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/0...-newday-vpx.cnn

then continue your garbage about the vaccine

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"Texas Republican official H. Scott Apley, a raging critic of masks and the vaccine, died in the hospital from coronavirus."

some lessons learned the hard way

not him. no more lessons.

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A disbelief of science, and an arrogance of Americans has lead us here.

Republican leaders are looking to take power among their constituents, by fanning the flames of ignorance. It ends up in a cycle of death.


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Cause of death: stupidity.


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Originally Posted By: bonefish

"Texas Republican official H. Scott Apley, a raging critic of masks and the vaccine, died in the hospital from coronavirus."

some lessons learned the hard way

not him. no more lessons.


he showed them libs

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A Florida radio host who railed against Dr. Fauci and vaccines has died from COVID-19
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Sat, August 7, 2021, 9:49 AM

Longtime radio host Dick Farrel died from COVID-19 after railing against vaccines on Facebook.

"Why take a vax promoted by people who lied 2u all along about masks," one of his posts read.

After contracting the virus, friends said Farrel texted them and urged them to get the vaccine.

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A radio host from Florida who publicly bashed coronavirus vaccines has died from COVID-19.

Dick Farrel frequently advocated against the vaccine on his personal Facebook page.

"Why take a vax promoted by people who lied 2u all along about masks, where the virus came from and the death toll?" Farrel wrote on Facebook on July 3, with no additional context or clarification.



"Vaccine Bogus Bull Shid!, Two peeps I know, got vaxed, now have Corona, hospitalized critical," he wrote on July 1. "Thank you Moderna, FOR NOTHING!"

His friend, Mike McCabe, said on Facebook that Farrel, 65, had been battling COVID-19 for three weeks before his death this week.

Farrel also railed against Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's leading coronavirus expert, calling him a "power tripping lying freak."

The longtime radio host was an ardent support of former President Donald Trump, Facebook posts show.

After contracting the virus, friends said Farrel texted them and urged them to get the vaccine, according to WPTV, an NBC News affiliate.

"He is the reason I took the shot," said Amy Leigh Hair, Farrel's close friend. "He texted me and told me to 'Get it!' He told me this virus is no joke and he said, "I wish I had gotten it!"

After his death, friends and former colleagues began to pour in tributes.

Lee Strasser, former market general manager for CBS Radio West Palm Beach, said Farrel was "flamboyant, outrageous at times, and willing to take on any and all comers," WPTV reported.

"Was he right all the time? No," Strasser added. "But he was "RIGHT" all the time, especially if you asked him. Did he stay out of trouble? Not always. Was he great with clients? Yes. Was he a pleasure in the building? Absolutely. Was he loyal? Unquestionably! Was he skilled? Yessir! His passing is a big loss. He was a kind-hearted person with a load of passion, and his memory will stand the test of time. We have all lost a friend in Farrel."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-radio-host-railed-against-134950826.html

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These fools that keep saying "they lied about Masks are IDIOTS.. They have no understanding how science works..

Science is NOT truth but it is the Search for Truth.

When science changes it's mind, they aren't lying to you.. Only a damn fool would think that.

The reason Science changes conclusions is because they learned more.

It's really that simple.

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A sign in an Amish gift shop in Intercourse, PA reads:
"Ve grow too soon oldt, und too late schmardt"...



the Amish know stuff.


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j/c:

I emailed a friend who is a supervising nurse at one of the hospitals here in the Greater Cleveland, Ohio area. I asked him the rate between the vaccinated and unvaccinated patients. He said (copied and pasted), "Do not know the rate... but the unvaccinated patients are much more sick."

...Food for thought...

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I found this to be informative:

Dr. Ryan Cole — What the Vaccine spike protein does to the body…

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/dr-ryan-cole-what-the-vaccine-spike-protein-does-to-the-body/

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I saw a LOT of the hub-bub about the protein spike months ago by many anti-vaxers and Covid deniers. There is a lot out there to refute the claimed issues and harm.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...c-idUSL2N2NX1J6

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...ein-toxic-or-c/

https://www.berkshireeagle.com/ap/factch...3514a6dad8.html

Lots of different angles covered ... Sure, the mainstream medical experts in the world could all be in cahoots to subjugate us all and working with MSM to perpetuate the hoax that is Covid ... or maybe it's just the fringes where the crazies meet that are wrong?


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Sounds impressive until you dig into the background of Dr. Cole.


https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/sciche...id-19-vaccines/

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I have no idea why he works so hard at finding and posting every idiotic anti vaxer/anti masker he can when nearly all of their BS has been debunked.


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I blame those unvaccinated people out there for the spike in Covid.


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That is almost laughable…. If we did not have the disease to consider.

What is worse? The vaccine or COVID-19????

Literally any vaccine that is taken could be called a toxin, and is intended to produce a immune response.

That is the logic behind all vaccines.

They used to inoculate people with the fluid from a smallpox sore. You would get sick, but not as sick as if you got smallpox. Then they figure out that cowpox would also have the same effect.

Roughly 2 percent of people die with COVID-19. You have a far better chance of not getting COVID-19, because you may not get COVID-19 in the first place. (95 percent reduction). And if you do get it the chance of death is far less, I recall seeing 0.01 percent.

There are no certainty in anything ever when populations are considered. But the chances favor vaccination.


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166.2 million Americans have gotten the vaccine. Very few serious side effects. Over 610,000 Americans have died from covid. Yet people act like it's some tough decision. Over 90% of those hospitalized and those dying are the unvaccinated and people are still listening to the quacks and saying, "Yeah, but I don't know".

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The only time that I think it logical to question "should I get the vaccine?"

Is when you have gotten covid and were asymtomatic. You got covid and your body fought it off. Your immune system has memory. It created antibodies and an immune response against the virus.

This is all I have seen:

"Unvaccinated people who have had Covid-19 may be more than twice as likely to get infected again than those who tested positive and bolstered their natural immunity with a vaccine, according to a small study that assessed the likelihood of reinfection.

The study, published on Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, examined the risk of reinfection during May and June among hundreds of Kentucky residents who tested positive for the virus in 2020."

That is not complete data. So, I could understand someone being reluctant to get the vaccine if they got it and not much happened.

That does mean that they should not get the vaccine.

However, I could understand questioning in that circumstance.

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
I blame those unvaccinated people out there for the spike in Covid.


Nah, you can't blame all the unvaccinated kids. Just blame the dumbass adults.

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