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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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The real irony of this entire situation is that you have a man taking office hell-bent (on a daily basis) on undoing every Trump policy under the sun...


You do realize that you could have placed the name Obama there when Trump was elected and it works just as well, right?

You do realize that Trump had a deal and an agreement with the Taliban that included a timeline for withdraw don't you?

Let me try to make the actual point you seem to be missing here. The withdraw of our troops from Afghanistan isn't a partisan issue. Both Trump and Biden agreed that our troops needed to be withdrawn. That is not a Republican verses Democrat issue. It's not a debatable point that an agreement with the Taliban that included a timeline for withdraw was in place before Biden took office. The only question was if Biden would honor an agreement made by The United states of America. Wrap your mind around that last sentence. Not an agreement made by Trump. Not an agreement made by Obama or Biden. An agreement made by The United States.

Pointing out that Trump had an agreement in place with the Taliban for a timeline to withdraw simply proves that both presidents of both parties had the same agenda. So for those claiming "We left too soon" or "Biden decided to leave Afghanistan"? that is patently false.


Oh come on - you really ought to know now, facts don't matter to the Republicans on this board. Semantics and spin matter. Emotions matter. Being able to latch on to a phrase or word or comment and focusing on that instead of the big picture - or heaven forbid the truth.


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THANKS Y’all JoKe can’t even read off the tele-prompter … sad … Y’all should be real proud of yourselves …

It’s awesome my 13 and 16 year old nephews have to wear masks to school meanwhile thousands of infected illegals are flooding across the border daily … no big deal there though, more votes …..

once again … BRILLIANT! Good job Y’ALL … u elected a man that lives in fantasy land, it’s too bad u weren’t the only ones affected by this JoKe and his clowns …

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Originally Posted By: FATE




LOL - yes, you have been very hypocritical lately. I have explained why.

We as for Republicans and their fake claims about emotional responses while they do that very thing, I forgot to mention cancel culture. Another emotional Republican victim calling card. Meanwhile the Republicans cancel and boycott anything and everything they don't like.


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It's a part of the Dems grand plan...the minions are asleep at the wheel.


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What could go wrong when we are relying on the Taliban to provide safe passage for our citizens to the airport?

Now the President says our troops are going to stay as long as it takes. Stay where? We gave up our strategic bases a few weeks ago.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
THANKS Y’all JoKe can’t even read off the tele-prompter … sad … Y’all should be real proud of yourselves …

It’s awesome my 13 and 16 year old nephews have to wear masks to school meanwhile thousands of infected illegals are flooding across the border daily … no big deal there though, more votes …..

once again … BRILLIANT! Good job Y’ALL … u elected a man that lives in fantasy land, it’s too bad u weren’t the only ones affected by this JoKe and his clowns …

THANKS Y’all


You don't have a clue. Coming in here to rant about Biden for any reason after Trump is not going to fly, so take you "thanks dems" and stick it in you Trump hole. And I think right now Biden deserves criticism and ire, but not for any of that! Your nephews get to wear a mask because of Trumpian asshats refuse to get the vaccine to do a damn thing that might actually help us get covid under control. And Joe not reading a teleprompter... LMAO Do you forget Trump trying to do that! smh, you can't even be serious with that comment.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
What could go wrong when we are relying on the Taliban to provide safe passage for our citizens to the airport?

Now the President says our troops are going to stay as long as it takes. Stay where? We gave up our strategic bases a few weeks ago.


This is a great question... maybe Donnie and Mike should have thought about that before cutting a deal with terrorists.

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THANKS Y’all this speaks for itself, no commentary needed … the video and a THANKS Y’all is all that is needed …



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We can see how they are going to spin this...we didn't know they were there, so we didn't leave them behind.

We will never get all of these people back and they know it.

"Just go to the airport", which for some might be hundreds of miles away. Heck, even 20 miles away.

Right...smh


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Eve isn't fish. I certainly don't agree with her many times but she at least thinks for herself.


I don't agree,,, she always seems to follow the talking points on Fox or out of the mouth of Trump.. so no, I don't agree.


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We're all certainly influenced by our preferred info sources (to varying degrees). IMO, lumping her into the same bucket as fish isn't accurate, fair, or productive.


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Maybe you should send them to schools that don't wear masks. See how that works out for them. As for border crossings. There was a new 21 year record number of arrests set last month at the border. So much for your FOX News BS about "open borders".

Migrant Border Arrests in July Surge to Highest Level in 21 Years

https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-bor...ars-11628799813

But just keep buying their BS and see if you can scream the loudest.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
We can see how they are going to spin this...we didn't know they were there, so we didn't leave them behind.

We will never get all of these people back and they know it.

"Just go to the airport", which for some might be hundreds of miles away. Heck, even 20 miles away.

Right...smh


I’ve heard the Taliban’s providing free uber rides to those within Kabul and for those further away there providing Water, Juice and box lunches at the checkpoints …

it’s the new and gentler Taliban .. I expect soon JoKe will be taking credit for sending them through sensitivity training as to why the Taliban is now woke …




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From reading your latest gaslighting, you hear a lot of BS.


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He's only responding to like-minded people. Don't disturb the echo chamber.


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I really shouldn't. He's just throwing our red meat BS lines and nothing of any real substance.


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I truly hope JoKe has a real plan to go get our people that doesn’t include our country being held hostage by the Taliban … THANKS Y’all





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I still believe we can have a country where white people and black people can live together in harmony without hatred, with love and support for all.

The events of four years ago taught me something I'd never thought before.
As Good people on the side of right in Afghanistan are being slaughtered, as the, well what is going on in the airport situation, the evil and the good is plain to see.

It's occurring around the week of August 11, the 4 year anniversary of a dastardly day of evil in Charlottesville Virginia where there was a unite the right rally.

All I learned from the events that followed the Charlottesville, is the left hates white identity with the hatred of a million suns.

Before that day I never would have contemplated that 30 million plus people in the usa could be pulled from their homes and slaughtered like the holocaust of ww2, or like what may be happening in Afghanistan.

The events, the media response, the systems' response, taught me, that the lefts hatred of white identity is so fervently nurtured,
in the name of stopping hatred, that they could eventually reach holocaust proportions, here in the usa.

And in 4 years, there has been nothing, not an iota of evidence, in the popular politically correct culture that the system will accept people of white identity, culture or skin without assigning them the label of Hate like a scarlet letter.

the evidence is all around.

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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG

Before that day I never would have contemplated that 30 million plus people in the usa could be pulled from their homes and slaughtered like the holocaust of ww2, or like what may be happening in Afghanistan.

The events, the media response, the systems' response, taught me, that the lefts hatred of white identity is so fervently nurtured,
in the name of stopping hatred, that they could eventually reach holocaust proportions, here in the usa.

And in 4 years, there has been nothing, not an iota of evidence, in the popular politically correct culture that the system will accept people of white identity, culture or skin without assigning them the label of Hate like a scarlet letter.

the evidence is all around.



I don't say this lightly. You've outdone yourself with this post.


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I...don't think Charlottesville is a good example of the left hating white identity...


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Dude, I'm actually really starting to think his might be a parody account.


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The events that followed it.

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We're all certainly influenced by our preferred info sources (to varying degrees). IMO, lumping her into the same bucket as fish isn't accurate, fair, or productive.


We all have opinions.. mine is that she is lumped in as she should be...


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
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Afghans clinging to our planes while taking off, falling to their death.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15874240/a...ul-army-latest/

This is a terrible stain on our country being perpetuated by this administration.


You are aware this was a Trump plan that Biden just continues right? YOu know that don't you.. Tell me you know that.. Don't tell me you forgot.... Don't tell me that.

Anyway, this is being poorly executed.. No question and it's on Bidens watch so it lands on him...


But this was destined to happen this way.., Trump, Biden.. it was going to come down the same way.



That isn't true. The plan was for in May...

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America is going to own the Afghanistan pullout, historcically like it or not.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Afghans clinging to our planes while taking off, falling to their death.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15874240/a...ul-army-latest/

This is a terrible stain on our country being perpetuated by this administration.


You are aware this was a Trump plan that Biden just continues right? YOu know that don't you.. Tell me you know that.. Don't tell me you forgot.... Don't tell me that.

Anyway, this is being poorly executed.. No question and it's on Bidens watch so it lands on him...


But this was destined to happen this way.., Trump, Biden.. it was going to come down the same way.



That isn't true. The plan was for in May...

You own it. Be proud


More revised history by Trump humpers

Here's the facts.. Enjoy

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/


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Regardless of your perspective on this - the link and facts and timeline laid out are a great read.

What jumps out to me -

- Using Trumps agreement to somehow alleviate blame on the disastrous exit is 100% fake. Much could have been done differently based on the Taliban not holding up their end of agreements.

- Trump is on record multiple times complaining about the delay in exit ... to have done the exit correctly and evacuate allies before reducing troops to such a low number, would have meant starting the process before Biden took office if May was the date. So - unsurprisingly - just BS from Trump. And he was still at it in July.

- I think the exit was bodged badly - Allies should have been the first to be withdrawn, regardless of how hard that would have been from a bureaucratic perspective.

- The one thing that makes all of this so much worse - Biden's July 8th speech. Basically he told the world what couldn't and wouldn't happen and then in the last few days we've seen all of those things happen. Stupid.

- Trump could and should have pulled us out earlier. Biden did it on the back of Trump's agreement. The decision to leave was 100% right. The execution was bad. Biden's speech just made it look even worse. EDIT - Obama could and should have taken us out also.

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Man, that certainly sounds like what a lot of us have been saying.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Man, that certainly sounds like what a lot of us have been saying.



OK, gotcha, Its all Trumps fault. Biden has come in and screwed the pooch on everything he has touched. All you guys have for an
answer to Biden is to hate Trump.

I guess crime, pipeline, southern border,Afganistan,gas, inflation, you know all the things Trump had under control isTrumps fault. Even you far left guys can't believe that.

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I guess you obviously didn't bother even reading what I was responding to. It obviously placed blame on Biden as well. It was a pretty even handed look at things.

That must have been the problem.

Go back and look at mgh's comments then get back to me.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I guess you obviously didn't bother even reading what I was responding to. It obviously placed blame on Biden as well. It was a pretty even handed look at things.

That must have been the problem.


AS well, I don't Think Trump would have pulled the troops out before getting the Americans and loyal Afgans out.

One other thing. remember how you lefties said the rest of the world didn't respect us because of Trump? Have you heard what they are saying about us now? All Trump did was make them pay up what they owed.

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All Trump did was make them pay up what they owed.


Ummmm - no.


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You lefties? Dear God man, the world hasn't respected us for a while now. Who did Trump make "pay what they owed"?

Never mind. All you want to do is make this a pissing match. There were a ton of mistakes made in the withdraw by the Biden administration. At this point the only one you're arguing with is yourself.

I will add one final thing. For the most part everyone you call "a leftie" has at least stepped up to the plate and admitted Biden made mistakes in his exit strategy. That's a lot more than any of your Trumpians were willing to do ever since he started running for office.


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More presidential:



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AS well, I don't Think Trump would have pulled the troops out before getting the Americans and loyal Afgans out.


Just like he did with the Kurds...

I'm not a "lefty" and I think Biden shoulders a ton of the blame, but I don't really see what you see on here, as I see a lot of the "lefties" laying blame on Biden.

There seems to be a double-flip on narratives here. A lot on the far right are saying that the left is too obsessed with blaming Trump, which actually is the case sometimes. But now, people on the far right are turning that into "Stop obsessing over Trump!" when legitimate questions or concerns are brought up about potential ripple effects from the last administration. That is always something that can/should be explored, regardless of who the prior president was. I remember in 2017 how many on the right were saying "Wow, Obama really screwed things up!"


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Your views tend to be somewhat moderate and are not strictly one sided. In case you missed it, in the eyes of many that makes you a "lefty". I mean after all, Liz Cheney is more conservative than Trump ever was and look what they did to her.


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Ha, thanks. I've been called fascist and socialist before.

I have a real identity crisis.


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